3rd Kitten was born, Please help me.. again.

@StefanZ  Okay and with the syringe how much am I supposed to drop at a time? 

@StefanZ  

There seems to be a problem. It looks like its drinking the milk but It's only finishing like 1cc/hour.. that's way too low.. What to do? Good news is it's keeping pretty warm!!

@sarthur2

@Margd

@talkingpeanut  

SukaBlyat said:

 
@StefanZ  

There seems to be a problem. It looks like its drinking the milk but It's only finishing like 1cc/hour.. that's way too low.. What to do? Good news is it's keeping pretty warm!!

@sarthur2

@Margd

@talkingpeanut  

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so give it 1 cc every hour!  its should be enough for a normally big newborn kitten.  Even if YOU wont sleep much at night.   25 ml  or 25 cc is exactly on the spot for a 90g big kitten for a 24 hour day.

It will be more as it grows, of course., but hopefully he will get stronger and manage more.

@StefanZ  Thank you so much for those words I was worried to heck!

Love you man, Pray for this one she seems warm and strong :3

I'll keep updating with pics and stuff

Edit: Here's the little bugger: https://goo.gl/photos/1jGECVQmwoq3gsTB8

Aw you're doing a great job, really hope it gets bigger and stronger xx [emoji]128578[/emoji][emoji]128578[/emoji]

@sunshineclare  Thanks, after suffering through a stillborn and a premature kitten's death I'm really trying hard for this one.

SukaBlyat said:

@StefanZ
 
There seems to be a problem. It looks like its drinking the milk but It's only finishing like 1cc/hour.. that's way too low.. What to do? Good news is it's keeping pretty warm!!
@sarthur2

@Margd

@talkingpeanut
 

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Keep going! 1cc an hour is ok for now. You'll feed more as the kitten grows. What do you mean about mom being on a shelf? You may need to block that off.

@talkingpeanut  I literally can't. She's in a box on top of my wardrobe. It's where she used to sleep way before pregnancy. She gave birth there, idk how she got there with pregnant belly. I've put her food up there and If I try to block it off she still tries to jump up there on the wardrobe WITH the kitten in her mouth which already shes too rough with (grabbing by head, not neck... agressively, teeth on eyes) so im not even going to try to relocate her incase she grabs the kid too hard and he falls...

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@talkingpeanut
 I literally can't. She's in a box on top of my wardrobe. It's where she used to sleep way before pregnancy. She gave birth there, idk how she got there with pregnant belly. I've put her food up there and If I try to block it off she still tries to jump up there on the wardrobe WITH the kitten in her mouth which already shes too rough with (grabbing by head, not neck... agressively, teeth on eyes) so im not even going to try to relocate her incase she grabs the kid too hard and he falls...

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This is very dangerous for mom and kitten. You may need to put them in another room.

Stefan asked a good question above. Does the mom trust you?

@talkingpeanut  Mom trusts me enough to let me feed the kitten, she doesn't attack me if I grab the kitten but she tries to get it back after meowing for a while.

@StefanZ  @talkingpeanut

Okay guy's the kitten is refusing the KMR, It's body-temperature but it's still refusing it, kitten is also warm so its not a matter of digestion

About to take it to the vet, I hope the mom started producing milk or something :/

SukaBlyat said:

 
@StefanZ  @talkingpeanut

Okay guy's the kitten is refusing the KMR, It's body-temperature but it's still refusing it, kitten is also warm so its not a matter of digestion

About to take it to the vet, I hope the mom started producing milk or something :/

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I have two ideas - ask the vet if he has something to gove momma to help her produce milk - some hormone or such.

- Btw, are you sure she is done withh delivering?  She CAN have more inside!   And if so, its not sure she begins to produce milk before she is fully done.

Second, with kittens verry reluctant - an idea is to give them kmr or goats milk straight into the stomach.  Thing is, its difficult and very dangerous if you dont know exactly how to do it.  And have the right gears.  That is why we usually dont even mention it.  The problem is, it seems most vets dont know it how to. Or at least, are verry reluctant to show and demonstrate.

I learned it the hard way, when I once had a forumite fighting over a week.  So this kitten could probably be saved with suitable help.  She went to four different vets, and apparently none of them knew this basics of their trade.

Such experiences learned me, if the vet isnt knowleable with small weak kittens, its usually better to find some rescuer,  experienced breeder of cats or dogs, or such a Forum as ours...  Google and youtube may help too some.

But they vets are usually good with things easy to diagnose, easy to cure.  So I dont discourage you.  Talk it out with this vet, hope for the best but dont be despaired if he doesnt know much.

It does not sound like the kitten needs a vet. It may just be full. In which case let one hour pass and feed again. 1 cc/hour is good if the kitten wants it. If not, 1-2 cc every 2 hours is okay.

@sarthur2  @StefanZ  Nope I am not sure she is done delivering, Momcat is bleeding from her vagina. I expect one more kid.

I'll ask the vet about giving KMR straight to the stomach.

She's taking about 0.5cc or sometimes 1 cc per 2/3hour. So yeah.

How much blood?

It's not a constant flow but everytime she rubs against something or sits down on the bed it gets blood marks.

 I'm going to take her to the vet and report back what he says

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It's not a constant flow but everytime she rubs against something or sits down on the bed it gets blood marks.
 I'm going to take her to the vet and report back what he says

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Bring mom and kitten with you in the carrier. Mom may need a shot to stimulate milk production.

sukablyat

How much does the kitten weigh? If tiny, 0.5-1 cc per feeding may be all it needs right now.

Mom cats do bleed following delivery for 7-10 days. This is normal. As long as it is not profuse it is okay.

I still think mom may feed the new kitten if given a chance.

I'm not sure what a vet can do right now. The kitten sounds fine and mom seems okay unless she is hemorrhaging.

Yes this is what I plan on doing. I'm bringing both to the vet.

Kitten is not tiny, he's quite healthy 0.5-1cc is not enough, actually he's refusing ANYTHING right now so..

Mom will be unlikely to feed kitten cuz no milk, gonna get some kind of shot or something to get her to produce milk :/

That's a beautiful little kitten.  It's a shame Mama is making everything more difficult than it has to be.  Maybe if you set up a cozy nest for her in the closet and piled a lot of stuff on top of the shelf so it was no longer comfortable she'd be a bit more cooperative.  Sending you many positive wishes that this beautiful little mite survives and thrives!