Help? Pax is breathing funny....

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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady

Quick update, with some questions.

- ask to test for FelV, FIP ( his first vaccine was a 3 in 1 for Panleukopenia, rhino, calicivirus....hmmm.
I would not have them test for FIP. They can't actually test for FIP...they test for coronavirus, which, since these little guys are not from a breeder (if I recall correctly, their rescues, right), there is a good chance they would test positive for Coronavirus. That does not mean that they have FIP....but trust me, if a vet gets it in their head that your cat has FIP....good luck convincing them otherwise. After Zoey, I will never again test a cat for coronavirus unless it is an absolute last resort. She got the "diagnosis" from the first vet, and vets 2, 3, and 4 followed suit, regardless of what her test results were. Since FIP is ultimately fatal, any treatment she received from that point on was "palative" - which was really frustrating to deal with since I still do not think she had FIP.

IF you are going to draw blood, I would try getting a CBC and serology done, as well as maybe a FelV/FIV test.

OH! Popsicle sticks worked really well for me when I was force-feeding Zoey. I used Hills A/D, warmed it up a bit, and put small portions against the roof of her mouth (scraping with back of top teeth). I ended up with a huge portion of it on me at first, but she eventually got the hang of it and realized she was going to eat whether she liked it or not!

The vet was also able to give me a nutritional supplement to get some extra calories into her and make sure she got some extra nutrients/minerals. It was a bacon-flavoured liquid.

for Pax's recovery.
 

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If the vet did not draw blood yesterday, I would DEFINITELY ask for a full blood panel, as suggested by Zoey's mom.

As others have pointed out, there's no way to test for FIP, and I would definitely not bother asking for testing for the coronavirus as having a high coronavirus titre count doesn't mean kitty has FIP.


for little Pax! And and
for you!

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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady

- ask to test for FelV, FIP ( his first vaccine was a 3 in 1 for Panleukopenia, rhino, calicivirus....hmmm. Why is that? Kizzy's first was a 5 in 1...maybe age/weight? Kizzy was 6mos for first shot) so we should have no false positives if I understand correctly (from the current posts on the in office testing...I assume we have the same tests here in Canada).
It's the correct one - it's actually FRVCP, which sounds like 5-in-one, but it's just 3 things: Feline Viral Rhinotracheitis (FVR), calcivirus, and panleukopenia.

Originally Posted by zoeysmom

The vet was also able to give me a nutritional supplement to get some extra calories into her and make sure she got some extra nutrients/minerals. It was a bacon-flavoured liquid.

for Pax's recovery.
That's a good point. When Smudge was a little baby and not doing so well, I made up a mush containing Gerber baby food, tinned kitten food, Pedialyte, KMR and a cat specific high calorie supplement that I got from the pet store. I figured the mush was high calorie, high fluid, and was fairly nutritious. She gained weight well on it and I credit a lot of her turn around to the mush.

Making up something like that might be good once he's eating, or at least mixing in the high calorie supplement into his food until he gains the weight again.

I'm glad he's not any worse overnight - that's a good sign!
 

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The 5 in 1 is also agains chlamydia and I believe Felv. It's better that he's had the 3 in 1 because those other 2 are not necessary since he is indoor. I have no idea why they would give Kizzy the 5 in 1 and the little ones the 3 in 1. Well, actually now that I think about it, I think I remember reading somewhere they don't normally vaccinate for FeLV until a certain age so that could be it?? Jake got a series of 4 in 1 shots when he was their age...with rhinotrcheitis, calici virus and panleukopenia plus chlamydia.
I don't have any suggestions for questions but the ones you have look good!
 
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Originally Posted by CoolCat

How is today the Cherub?...
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Please let us know soon my friend!
will let you know when I get back... I'll be leaving in 35mins or so.

Originally Posted by zoeysmom

I would not have them test for FIP. They can't actually test for FIP...they test for coronavirus, which, since these little guys are not from a breeder (if I recall correctly, their rescues, right), there is a good chance they would test positive for Coronavirus. That does not mean that they have FIP....but trust me, if a vet gets it in their head that your cat has FIP....good luck convincing them otherwise. After Zoey, I will never again test a cat for coronavirus unless it is an absolute last resort. She got the "diagnosis" from the first vet, and vets 2, 3, and 4 followed suit, regardless of what her test results were. Since FIP is ultimately fatal, any treatment she received from that point on was "palative" - which was really frustrating to deal with since I still do not think she had FIP.
My mistake, I meant the combo test, FelV, FIV......not FIP.....too many things in my head at the moment. Thanks for the info, and explanation.

IF you are going to draw blood, I would try getting a CBC and serology done, as well as maybe a FelV/FIV test.
CBC is the full blood panel, yes? What does serology show?

Both are written on my list. If I don't take my list, I will forget, since I am not experienced with sick kitties like this and the terminology (see example above re FIP test).

OH! Popsicle sticks worked really well for me when I was force-feeding Zoey. I used Hills A/D, warmed it up a bit, and put small portions against the roof of her mouth (scraping with back of top teeth). I ended up with a huge portion of it on me at first, but she eventually got the hang of it and realized she was going to eat whether she liked it or not!

The vet was also able to give me a nutritional supplement to get some extra calories into her and make sure she got some extra nutrients/minerals. It was a bacon-flavoured liquid.

for Pax's recovery.
thanks, I will definately ask about the supplements along with a high cal food.

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.


ETA: he has the strength to fight me still
I will take that as a good sign. He does NOT want food or water, so trying to give him some food this morning, he fought me.
 

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carolinalima;2660052 said:
Cats do have a gag reflex - at least Lucky does, and I caught it on film
. You don't want to shoot food down his throat - he can aspirate into his lungs. Giving it on the side of his mouth,

I stand corrected. That is what a vet tech told me when she taught me how to give pills to Gray One.
 

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ckblv;2660813 said:
Originally Posted by carolinalima

Cats do have a gag reflex - at least Lucky does, and I caught it on film
. You don't want to shoot food down his throat - he can aspirate into his lungs. Giving it on the side of his mouth,

I stand corrected. That is what a vet tech told me when she taught me how to give pills to Gray One.
So then Lucky is not a cat... I said I have it on video - do you want me to post it?
 

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Oh gosh, I hope Pax is ok! When Smudge (RB) got FIP, he was really, really sick, with a temp of 105, so I'm really hoping that Pax doesn't have that. I forget after reading all this...does he have a stuffy nose? I hear you can use one of those baby suction bulbs to get the stuff out of their noses.

Oh, and I just remembered, a couple months back, Tigger got really sick - she wouldn't eat and I think she was breathing funny (snorting). (Tigger is 19 and weighs maybe 4 pounds. Can't afford to lose any weight!) I really thought it was her last vet visit, but they didn't see anything on blood work, she had a bit of a fever, and her lungs were clear. So she got some sub q fluids, and an antibiotic prescription and they sent her home. It took a couple of days, but she got better quite quickly. (although my scars from pilling her have yet to heal, LOL.) The vet told me to just call if the other cats got it, and I think 3 out of the 5 did.
 

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Chris can't post right now, but asked me to let everyone know.... Poor little Pax has bronchial pneumonia. If he doesn't turn around by tomorrow, he will be euthanized.


Chris is devastated, but thanks everyone so much for their (continued) good thoughts and vibes.




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And just sending more vibes to Pax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and hugs to Chris.



Laurie
 

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Nooooooo!!!! Poor little Pax!!! Chris I'm so sorry


Come on Pax you can do it! You are a fighter, and you WILL pull through this. You have so many people pulling for you to get through this. Sending big


I am relieved knowing that Kitchisox and Kizzy are safe though. Small comforts...
 

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Oh, geez -- not my sweet little black and smoke fuzzball??!!!

mega ultra humongous vibes for the little guy!
 
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