Ulcers in kittens mouth, vet said stomatitis and glossitis?

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  Yes, that is great news that he is looking better!   I hope you continue to see even more improvement and feel less worried / feel the need to carry out a lot of tests on your liitle cat at this stage.  Give him time to settle down and hopefully he will be fine in a few more days. 
 

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Hi, I also have a cat that has been diagnosed with stomatitis. He is 7 yrs old and it started in oct. When he had difficulty eating. My vet did a dental cleaning and removed 2 teeth already . Be has had a steroid shot which helped but only temporary. He has a had time eating soft food even blended to milkshake like consistency. He is losing weight and doesn't want to eat because it hurts him. The vet didn't give me any coarse of action except soft food and steroid shots. I have 20 of these feline friends and this one I am the closest to.this is very painful to see him like thus, what should I do first to get him on the road to feeling better?? Help :please:
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  Sorry to the op! Don't mean to hijack your thread.

Vet offers no course of action, what?

Find a new vet, have teeth removed, and remind vet how critical it is to get ALL roots too or it will continue, kitty has a super fast recovery, can eat basically everything and gain weight back, living a pain free life.

Its not bad to do like we would think, they adapt beautifully!
 
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Hi, I also have a cat that has been diagnosed with stomatitis. He is 7 yrs old and it started in oct. When he had difficulty eating. My vet did a dental cleaning and removed 2 teeth already . Be has had a steroid shot which helped but only temporary. He has a had time eating soft food even blended to milkshake like consistency. He is losing weight and doesn't want to eat because it hurts him. The vet didn't give me any coarse of action except soft food and steroid shots. I have 20 of these feline friends and this one I am the closest to.this is very painful to see him like thus, what should I do first to get him on the road to feeling better?? Help

There are several threads that I have found with information about stomatitis.  There is a 'syrup' that a lot of owners have had success with check out these threads for more information.

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/260047/stomatitis   This thread talks the most about it, as in what types of ingredients are in it etc.

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/258947/stomatitis-syrup-from-dallas-texas

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/262512/does-interferon-help-with-stomatitios

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/257668/does-the-dallas-dental-service-animal-clinic-still-exist
 

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Excellent news! Keep us posted on the progress :)
   Yes, please Chloe16, do keep us up to date, and hopefully with positive news about syptoms continuing to clear up and your worries clearing with them..... I too am going to respond to Jennifer S, I hope you are OK with this.

@Jennifer S,  @cprcheetah is right, there are many threads discussing this topic and it is wise to read a good number of them although it can be confusing and distressing, and yes read the ones they have given you links to.  I think reading other threads discussing cats with the type of presentation your cat seems to have had, and already gone through some tooth extraction, will indicate is that @catwoman's concern at your vet's current level of intervention is something to question and question quickly.  This condition  often requires specialist veterinarian involvement and is difficult to achieve positive outcomes for your cat even with expert vet care.  And yes, do as she says and seek a second opinion if you do not feel your current vet will listen to your concerns or take further action when your cat is still in pain.  You are your cat's advocate; if he is in pain and loosing weight then demanding more of your vet or finding a different vet is simply looking after your cat.   Anyone who loves cats should be able to understand why you would take this course of action.
 

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Oh thanks you so very much. I will look at the threads now. I just got back from the store getting him so e special foods with no grain,ect.ect. He seemed to do really well with that and I got some of the additive to put in his water which I have so many pets they can all benefit from that. His mouth is so sore there is no way I could brush his teeth, he can barely yawn without being in pain. But you are right about the second opinion. I hear of a great cat vet here locally and I am going to them a call. But if there is anything else that you know of please let me know and thanks again me and my boy devious thank you..jen
 
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Rileys eyes look great but now the kitten that brought the infection into the house has another eye infection in his other eye. Ugh. Maybe I should get rid of a few cats? I was told having to many can make it so you have constant illness but I dont understand my cats dont seem stressed, they have lots of hiding places, they are healthy other then this virus going around....
 

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Rileys eyes look great but now the kitten that brought the infection into the house has another eye infection in his other eye. Ugh. Maybe I should get rid of a few cats? I was told having to many can make it so you have constant illness but I dont understand my cats dont seem stressed, they have lots of hiding places, they are healthy other then this virus going around....
How frustrating to have another infection going on.  Kitten might not have a strong immune system and prone to infections, but also it could be an infection wasn't cleared completely first time round, or yes the risks of cross infection when multiple cats pass things between each other just like us humans do.  I didn't get the impression there was a particularly high number but cross infection will happen if they have contact.   If the kitten has an infection in the eye this sounds to me more like a secondary infection to a virus as I thought virus would cause runny eye and that bacterial infection would then be more likely to happen or URI spread through system to eye.   I am no expert on this though.  The kitten should go to the vet as soon as possble, and ask about how you should approach contact with other cats for this kitten. 
 
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I cant afford to go to the vet again Ive spent over $500 on these cats in the last month. My money is dry. Maybe I will just get rid of a few cats and hopefully that isolates whatever it is because only he is showing symptoms of an eye issue no one else is
 
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Just an update. Flynn the one we adopted from the rescue that introduced this infection now has an eye ulcer on top of his infection. I think we may end up giving him back to the rescue we got him from we can't keep forking out money for an infection that we can't seem to get rid of
 

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Just an update. Flynn the one we adopted from the rescue that introduced this infection now has an eye ulcer on top of his infection. I think we may end up giving him back to the rescue we got him from we can't keep forking out money for an infection that we can't seem to get rid of
I know it isn't 100% certain what is going on in terms pf infections and virus, but it might well be worth trying your young cats, particularly the one now showing an ulcer on the eye with L Lysine. You can buy fairly easily on line and it isn't too expensive like a lot of medications.  If the cat has herpes virus it blocks the virus so the cat is less prone to show symptoms, and therefor less likely to get any secondary infections.  With cats that have herpes it can make a huge difference to how often they get sick.  That plus probiotics to boost the cat's immune system can be very effective and not expensive.

You alone know what you can afford and need to think of the welfare and health of all the cats in your home but I hope you do not have to make the decision to return one of the cats as this is always hard. Good luck to you, I hope your young cats' health start to improve.
 
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They have been on Lysine for over 2 weeks. We put them as as soon as we noticed Flynn was sick. We also added a probiotic the same time.
 
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Im not sure if the ulcer was caused by him rubbing his eye or if the infection caused the ulcer. I read that if a cat has calcivirus it can also get ulcers in the eyes as well. Is there any truth to this?
 

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I have had a look at a few articles but can't find any that refer to ulcers on the eye in calcivirus, but that said it is a virus that is changing regularly and I am no vet so it may well do.  It is also possible that he has scratched his eye and caused the ulcer through other iritation like you say.  What I did find was a comparitive list between calcivirus and Feline Rhinotracheitis which indicates no ulcers on eyes.  I think the article is about 4 years old though.

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2134&aid=210

If you can not afford veterinary consultation and treatment for this young cat's eye I think you are right to consider where would be best for the kitten as the eye ulcer is likely to be causing him considerable pain.  I wish you well what ever you decide you need to do.
 

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Hello, I just read through your entire thread and I am so sorry to hear about all that you and your cats are going through. 
I know what it's like having sick animals and not being able to afford the huge vet bills that sometimes comes with being a pet parent. I can really relate.

I just want to let you know that I looked into finding some no kill shelters if you are interested. I did find one at the Burlington Humane Society. There are more in the GTA and maybe they might be able to take in the cat(s) . I am not sure if there are any in the Niagara falls area but you never know.

I also rescued 2 kittens in July last year, they were in foster homes, got a clean bill of health but sure enough had parasites. I guess there is always that risk when adopting a new pet. My heart goes out to you and your kitties, I hope that they get well soon.
 
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The adoption agreement states I must give him back to the rescue if I choose to not keep him. Hes technically my sisters cat so thats gotta be her decision. The symptoms seem to be pointing more towards calicivirus. THey do have 1 symptoms of herpes which is the eye ulcer in Flynn. The vet will call me back tomorrow and suggest what I do from here.
 
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Eye ulcers aren't generally a part of Calicivirus, but you can see them with Herpes virus and the two can go hand in hand.
 
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