stomatitis syrup from dallas texas

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Hi has anyone been using the syrup from dallas for stomatitis, we are half way through second bottle. Just wondering how long start see improvement?  Appreciate feedback.
 

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I'm not familiar with this, but know we have some folks on this site with cats with stomatitis.  And have heard there are some specialists in the Dallas area who have made leaps and bounds re: stomatitis.  Is this a new treatsment?

Hopefully someone will come along soon and discuss with you, although I haven't read about anyone trying a syrup.  Interesting.  Maybe you can tell us a little more about this treatment
 
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yes its cocktail syrup for stomatitis, its been around few years.we are hoping it will help our baby kylie.
 

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Do you mean the treatment by the late Dr Wiggs?I think Carolina was using that for Bugsy a few years back.
 
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Yes I did use for Bugsy with excellent results - he might go back into it, actually.... His mouth is looking sore. Not too bad, but I can see a pretty red gum line I don't like.
It is hard to say "how long it took to make an effect". It is the second time I was asked this question..... It is hard to respond properly. Bugsy started the treatment by having a complete dental done specially for stomatitis AT the clinic (the Dallas clinic), and started taking the medicine immediately after the dental. The meds kept the inflammation from coming back after the dental. So it was pretty immediate I think :dk: By the first 30 day check up his mouth was soooo much better! Then the meds just kept the inflammation at bay. The treatment was fantastic for Bugsy! I gave him capsules though, as he is much better to pill and he did not like that liquid AT ALL :nono:
For some odd reason Bugsy accumulates a ridiculous amount of tartar, so he still had to have dentals once a year - and still does. He will have one soon and the dentist will decide if he will go back to the meds or not - he's been off meds for a while, since he's been on raw.
All things considered, he is doing great.
 
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Thanks caroline, kylie dosent like syrup dr wiggs at all we half way down second bottle. She had all teeth removed apart from thangs and had great 9 months. I have just ordered pill version be much better she dosent do well with liquid meds,kylie is twelve to picky try raw, she gets weruva grain free and loves it.
 
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yes thanks
 

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Hi Carolina, did Bugsy experience any side effects from the medication?  

Kelly from that Vet Dental clinic in Dallas you referred me to said that my cat has to be on it for the rest of her life, even if she shows improvement. She said that if I stop the meds during improvement that the stomatitis will come back raging! I'm glad Bugsy doesn't seem to be experiencing that. It's been almost 3 weeks that my cat has been on the liquid meds and there's been no improvement whatsoever. Yesterday afternoon she threw up bile and again this morning. Very unlike her, she pukes only a couple of times a year, so I can't help but wonder if it's the meds.
 

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No, no side effects whatsoever. Bugsy might need to get treatment again, I will see on his next dental, but his mouth is looking a bit red to me and his vet. I am ok with it, he di very well.... You need to give it some time.... Be patient, but do call them about the vomiting on Tuesday when they are open.
Good luck hun :wavey:
 

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Bugsy was so fortunate that he didn't have any side effects from the meds and that it worked quickly for him!  How long ago was the last time you had to give him the meds?  And how much longer did you continue the meds after he started showing signs of improvement?

Yes, I will definitely call the clinic about the vomiting.
 
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Carolina I need youre advice I had kylie on capsules second bottle, she just wont eat in her food no more and I feel since she stopped her mouth has got bit worse. tried lot her fav fooda, think its that oramge colour try discussing it byt she to clever. wonder if its pet tinic she hates that stuff.  any feedback be so gratefull.
 

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Carolina I need youre advice I had kylie on capsules second bottle, she just wont eat in her food no more and I feel since she stopped her mouth has got bit worse. tried lot her fav fooda, think its that oramge colour try discussing it byt she to clever. wonder if its pet tinic she hates that stuff.  any feedback be so gratefull.
Bugsy never ate it in his food.... Which is why I got them to make it in capsules and I pilled him every morning - MUCH easier!
The capsules are no big at all, there is no taste, no mess, and that way he got every bit of it.

Hope that helps :wavey:
 
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we had terrible time with her giving meds in mouth, she used to hide
 
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was wondering what is the orange colous , think that's what puts her off, but they wont tell me whats in it.you are so lucky youre cat let you pop in the mouth, kylie is stubborn Siamese.
 

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langholm,
Bugsy too used to run from me.... What I did was I got myself a cat bag - it saved our relationship. Here is the link for a good one - there are others available too: The cat Sack.

Bottom line is this:
Stomatitis sucks.
This medication works though, which is why you are noticing her mouth worse without the meds. BUT it works if she takes the meds.
We just do what we have to do.... :nod:

Today she runs from you, tomorrow she will get used to pilling. Trust me.
When Bugsy started not even the VET could pill him :nod: Today I can pill him all day long any type of pill with no issues and he just sits there.

Something else: If you have any problems, any issues at all, it is important that you call Dallas Dental - THEY need to be informed and follow your treatment closely. They can help you more than anyone else. :wavey:
 
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hi Carolina I did talk to Kelly at dallas vets, hoping maybe different flavor help. youre cat is great letting you pop meds that easy, wish so easy with kylie. I really wonder why the medicine is so orange colour. I made her chichen tonight she got pill down her. I bought her piece salmon for tomm try get one pill down her. she is so picky, she enjoys weruva all grain free chicke, tuna varieties.
 

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hi Carolina I did talk to Kelly at dallas vets, hoping maybe different flavor help. youre cat is great letting you pop meds that easy, wish so easy with kylie. I really wonder why the medicine is so orange colour. I made her chichen tonight she got pill down her. I bought her piece salmon for tomm try get one pill down her. she is so picky, she enjoys weruva all grain free chicke, tuna varieties.
Like I said - Bugsy was HORRIBLE to pill.
When I started to give him this meds I took him to the vet and 3 people tried to pill him - could NOT do it.
I started pilling him at home, and he got SO stressed, he would run from me 24x7. He took many meds a day due to his IBD, which was bad at the time as well.

It was then that I got the cat bag - I posted the link above.
It saved my relationship with Bugsy.

Bugsy is easy to pill TODAY. He was not in the beginning. He was a 21lb cat, strong, who hated pills with all his might.
Time , patience and a cat bag did it.

They do get used to it. It is all I can tell you.
Today - I can pill him anything, any pill anytime, without a bag, and he doesn't care the least bit. He just sits there. He got used to it and doesn't get stressed out. But this is today. When we started he was tough. Not at all an easy cat to pill.

If I did it, you can do it too.
 
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thanks I gopt her take last night in chicken, I never give up on her 
 
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