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This Poor Cat
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We're home from the vet, . Let me say, fist, that she was looking better today. she ate some this morning, and when I entered the cattery she was nursing kittens. I fed them, and I when I went upstairs to get her antibiotics, she was nursing again when I got back downstairs. When I got home from Co-op, she was waiting for some food!
So, i got the same um, "young" vet. She walked in and said, Oh! She's still looking so bright! And I'm like, well not really. She's perked up some, but she was NOT "bright" this weekend. Bottom line: She is exhausted, (that I knew) and has "some sort of infection" .
Seriously? I kinda figured that. I did notice that she was licking her vulva a bit yesterday, and they vet looked at it really closely- so I said it outright- Does she have a uterine infection? She never answered me directly. "Well, it can certainly be related to the hard time she had birthing and having that late, dead kitten"
OH< the one I called you about and you told me NOT to worry about? grr.
She has no fever. No discharge. No smell. I know she's tired. The big babies are eating real food now, and ONE OF THEM POOPED IN THE LITTER TRAY! So we are working on taking over the brunt of feeding them so they can feed the littles.
The vet said Naomi was dehydrated, and so she said she would do the sub-q fluids. 2 things- when I got her- there was no "bump" under her skin, and she was all wet and the bottom of her crate was wet. What do you think that mean? Do you think it all leaked out?
She also gave her a shot of Convenia- an antibiotic, and sent home some probiotic powder.
Sorry I'm so disjointed- I'm glad that Naomi is getting better, but annoyed that this same vet makes me feel like an idiot- I'm exactly an inexperienced cat owner.
So, i got the same um, "young" vet. She walked in and said, Oh! She's still looking so bright! And I'm like, well not really. She's perked up some, but she was NOT "bright" this weekend. Bottom line: She is exhausted, (that I knew) and has "some sort of infection" .
Seriously? I kinda figured that. I did notice that she was licking her vulva a bit yesterday, and they vet looked at it really closely- so I said it outright- Does she have a uterine infection? She never answered me directly. "Well, it can certainly be related to the hard time she had birthing and having that late, dead kitten"
OH< the one I called you about and you told me NOT to worry about? grr.
She has no fever. No discharge. No smell. I know she's tired. The big babies are eating real food now, and ONE OF THEM POOPED IN THE LITTER TRAY! So we are working on taking over the brunt of feeding them so they can feed the littles.
The vet said Naomi was dehydrated, and so she said she would do the sub-q fluids. 2 things- when I got her- there was no "bump" under her skin, and she was all wet and the bottom of her crate was wet. What do you think that mean? Do you think it all leaked out?
She also gave her a shot of Convenia- an antibiotic, and sent home some probiotic powder.
Sorry I'm so disjointed- I'm glad that Naomi is getting better, but annoyed that this same vet makes me feel like an idiot- I'm exactly an inexperienced cat owner.
Yes, I think the liquids leaked out.
The vet sounds like she could use some experience herself. I understand how frustrating it must feel dealing with someone who has already rubbed you the wrong way. Maybe next time you can specifically request a vet other than that one.
I'm glad to hear that Naomi is eating better now. That's a good sign! [emoji]128522[/emoji]
The vet sounds like she could use some experience herself. I understand how frustrating it must feel dealing with someone who has already rubbed you the wrong way. Maybe next time you can specifically request a vet other than that one.
I'm glad to hear that Naomi is eating better now. That's a good sign! [emoji]128522[/emoji]
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I don't want to frighten you, you have enough to deal with, but Convenia is normally used for skin infections, and can provoke some very adverse reactions. It stays in the body for up to two months, unlike most antibiotics. If you notice any further lethargy, or diarrhea or anything unusual, get back to the vet (a different one) fast.
there was no 'bump', or pocket under her skin containing the fluids, when you gave Naomi the sub-q's?
might it be possible you could have stuck the needle through both sides of the skin 'tent' when sticking her to give the sub-q's?
another possibility might be that Naomi's skin isn't as 'elastic' as it might be, right now. so when the needle was removed, the skin didn't/took longer to 'close'.
there's also the possibility that the needle slid out of her while she was being given the fluids. that happened when i gave my little snick
things i always did were: make sure to make a good 'tent' of the skin, which will help to prevent the needle going through both sides of it; always hold on to the needle while fluids are being given, so it doesn't start sliding out; and, use a cotton ball -- i'd place it over the needle as i was removing it, then apply pressure to the stick point on the skin for 2 or 3 minutes (sometimes you can 'nick' a vein, so some bleeding which applying pressure fixes) while gently moving the finger(s) applying pressure in a little circular motion. these things always worked for me and my little girl.
Yes I expressly forbade my vet. Whom I think is gold to use this antibiotic after the dental if there were any extractions. Not because I'm sure it's bad I just felt there was enough antidotal evidence to make me question it's use. Especially when there are safer alternatives.
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well, crap. She did mention to me that it was "off label" use, and I questioned her, and asked if she had used it before on a nursing mama-. she said that "no one tests drugs in pregnant and nursing cats" and when I asked if I could just continue using the amoxicillin, she told me that it, too, was off-label for a nursing mama-
Now I'll be watching her like a hawk.
Anything specific I should watch out for? i KNEW to tell you guys about the shot- and when i picked her up I thought, hmm- better write that down.
I didn't give the sub q fluids- they did. Damn. I'll make her up some more KMR and give it to her.
I'm So thankful I have you guys to talk to.
Now I'll be watching her like a hawk.
Anything specific I should watch out for? i KNEW to tell you guys about the shot- and when i picked her up I thought, hmm- better write that down.
I didn't give the sub q fluids- they did. Damn. I'll make her up some more KMR and give it to her.
I'm So thankful I have you guys to talk to.
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Please share what you've heard
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I googled searched it, and now I'm freaked out.
Has anyone every had their cat been given the drug?
Has anyone every had their cat been given the drug?
Deep breath and remember that side-effects are the oddity, not the norm. That said, watch her carefully and RELAX! You don't want to make her tense with your worry. You are doing a stellar job. IF she has any adverse reaction, then get her back in ASAP, and demand the "other" vet sees her. So far, so good.
The fact of the matter is, EVERY KNOWN DRUG has possible adverse reactions. Take a look at the warnings on some of the human ones. You'll think twice before taking a vitamin tablet.
The fact of the matter is, EVERY KNOWN DRUG has possible adverse reactions. Take a look at the warnings on some of the human ones. You'll think twice before taking a vitamin tablet.
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Yes, I agree. I'm just so invested in this cat. I don't know how I'll ever give her up. I wonder how she'll get along with my 3?????? 
She swipes a bit at Wynonna now. The hormone honeymoon is over.
Oh, the vet did give me probiotics to use as well- funny, she said the drug would be easier on her stomach. I'm going to order more probiotics for her via amazon, I think. And maybe see if she'll take some yogurt in a few days.
She swipes a bit at Wynonna now. The hormone honeymoon is over. Oh, the vet did give me probiotics to use as well- funny, she said the drug would be easier on her stomach. I'm going to order more probiotics for her via amazon, I think. And maybe see if she'll take some yogurt in a few days.
all of the symptoms of some antibitoics but since its not in the cat's system you can't simply stop giving it.
The issue with this drug is it stays in the body for an extended period of time. So you have little control over an adverse effect.
BTW off label use is almost more common than drugs developed more specifically for a specific species or condition. Off label is why cats have chemo, insulin and probably those fluids you put into them. Veterinary Handbooks address off label use.
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.html
https://www.uploady.com/#!/download/wahBpsDJmyg/n3WjcffElJhtYU5G
the Plumb's is a download
the Merck is a free online veterinary resource.
If you see a Plumb's therapeutic brief you would like to read and it says member only go back to the search page and type article in with PDF in the search. Many are available that way.
https://www.uploady.com/#!/download/wahBpsDJmyg/n3WjcffElJhtYU5G
the Plumb's is a download
the Merck is a free online veterinary resource.
If you see a Plumb's therapeutic brief you would like to read and it says member only go back to the search page and type article in with PDF in the search. Many are available that way.
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Thanks, She's really doing well right now, wanting more food, nursing, cleaning the babies. I'm just going to be extra vigilant with her.
That's probably all you have to do and she will likely be fine.
My instruction per the vet are fairly specific. I don't rule out any drug or treatment just a requirement to give consent to it's use.
It is always good to have your ear to the ground when it comes to your pets medications. Kitten was blinded because of a well known adverse effect. While it's well established the original reports were from pet owners and their veterinarians questioning the connection.
My instruction per the vet are fairly specific. I don't rule out any drug or treatment just a requirement to give consent to it's use.
It is always good to have your ear to the ground when it comes to your pets medications. Kitten was blinded because of a well known adverse effect. While it's well established the original reports were from pet owners and their veterinarians questioning the connection.
I'm glad she's doing better. BTW keep an eye on the nursing kittens as well, some medications can be passed to them through the milk.
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Yes, I asked if it was safe for the babies. She said it hasn't been tested.
Geez ...
Yes, 6 of my 7 cats were given Convenia shots with their spay/neuter surgeries and none of them had any bad reactions. None of them were nursing moms, obviously. With the first 4, I didn't know the dangers but trusted my vet. With the last 2 I actually chose the shot because they both have horrible reactions (immediate and violent vomiting) to Clavamox. Your vet might even be right about this being easier on Naomi's stomach. Just watch her but don't worry!
