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This is the offending article. Forgot to upload with my post. Half of me wants to get rid of it but then I worry that out of sheer stubbornness they won't get enough to drink
 

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Hi. While the subject of good and bad things to feed our cats is still fresh I'd like to know why my cats prefer to drink this filthy rain water that's collected in a (recently and thoroughly cleaned) old litter tray bottom rather than the filtered tap water served in clean bowl that's lovingly prepared by their owners? Even when there are no containers outside for rain water to collect they drink from the drain, manhole covers and every filthy place going. In all the cats I've had over the years Carter and Hugo are the greatest lovers of filthy outside water. While they'll drink this they are extremely fussy with food. They won't eat ANY supermarket own brand wet food even if it's in the finest, best quality, deluxe or fresh from the sea range. Tinned food is a no go and except own brand Chewsticks, no economy treats of any type. They love wafer thin honey roast ham slices but again turn their noses up at the economy packs. While their fussiness sometimes leaves us bewildered I do understand their refusal to eat wet food that's been on their plate for longer than an hour in the winter and about 10 minutes in the summer
I have pictures of our beloved angel Calo drinking rainwater from a dusty dirty paint can top before he was brought inside. All of the community cats outdoors had several clean bowls of fresh water to choose from, but no! he wanted THAT water. One never knows with cats :kneading:
 

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My Angel Floey preferred drinking out of dirty bowls of water outside-I rinsed them out when I get the chance-I also had a plastic bowl thingy for the plants and she wanted that nasty water instead of pristine water in the house.
I keep a bowl of water on the deck now-wash it out every other day. Hey if they want it..so be it!
 

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My Angel Floey preferred drinking out of dirty bowls of water outside-I rinsed them out when I get the chance-I also had a plastic bowl thingy for the plants and she wanted that nasty water instead of pristine water in the house.
I keep a bowl of water on the deck now-wash it out every other day. Hey if they want it..so be it!
Yeah, as long as they're safe and healthy, what can you do?:winkcat:
 

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Hi. While the subject of good and bad things to feed our cats is still fresh I'd like to know why my cats prefer to drink this filthy rain water that's collected in a (recently and thoroughly cleaned) old litter tray bottom rather than the filtered tap water served in clean bowl that's lovingly prepared by their owners? Even when there are no containers outside for rain water to collect they drink from the drain, manhole covers and every filthy place going. In all the cats I've had over the years Carter and Hugo are the greatest lovers of filthy outside water. While they'll drink this they are extremely fussy with food. They won't eat ANY supermarket own brand wet food even if it's in the finest, best quality, deluxe or fresh from the sea range. Tinned food is a no go and except own brand Chewsticks, no economy treats of any type. They love wafer thin honey roast ham slices but again turn their noses up at the economy packs. While their fussiness sometimes leaves us bewildered I do understand their refusal to eat wet food that's been on their plate for longer than an hour in the winter and about 10 minutes in the summer
Perhaps for the same reason our dog and Indy prefer to drink out of the toilet?
 

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Silly beasts! :lolup: (Not you, Gaven Kent Gaven Kent ) I know. Sometimes my cats have eaten insects and shortly thereafter, I hear the lovely sound of them puking them back up. WHY??? *Only cats know for sure* ;)
As well as their questionable behaviour Carter and Hugo also have some human like traits. Hugo uses his paws to unnecessarily push food into his mouth. He uses both paws. He dropped a treat and caught it by crossing his front legs and catching it at the top. It was such a human thing because in catching it he made it so difficult for himself and refused to drop it. I've done that exact thing hundreds of times. I assume behaviour like this is due to the time we spend around them. 15-20 hours a day from two people. They also sit in armchairs like a person. Back against the rear of chair with back legs and tummy sticking out at a right angle. Front paws out in front or up in the air! just another mystery from my feline masters!
 

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My £2 charity shop vintage cake stand was a great find. I had all sorts of plans for it. Over a couple of days this happened and it's purpose sealed forever! The cats love it and keep their eyes on it at all times. Hugo even trespasses on the worktop and tries to help himself. The worktop is the only out of bounds area for cats in the whole house mainly because I don't want them walking on the cooker hobs when they are on or cooling. They love the treats that are given to them and I am guilty of spoiling them on occasion. Carter is 17 and other than a thyroid and arthritis issue is healthy and happy. Hugo is massive. When I met him at 2 weeks old he was twice the size of his sisters. At 8 weeks the same. He is long with huge paws, ears and whiskers. While being huge he is in proportion and magnificent. He's active, agile, fast and not solely motivated by food. I was worried he is too big but his vet assured me that he is just a big cat. He asked if I knew whether either of his parents were Maine Coons. Hugo's mum is a petite and slight tabby called DiDi and her owners think the dad was a stocky semi feral tabby that they feed as they have no idea who owns him. So all treats in moderation but at the same time beautifully presented!
 

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I forgot to say that behind the worktop is the open plan dining that has become a cats playground. Three scratching posts, random carpet tiles for clawing, a huge collection of mice and things to chase, their eating area and various wooden furniture to sit on. Out of shot on the right is a rotating love seat that was a housewarming gift. It's covered with a thick horse blanket and is now the property of Hugo who relaxes on it after 9pm. I've caught him sharpening his claws on it with so much energy and enthusiasm that he spins it around! I learned many years ago that you cannot have the pleasure of having cats without the occasional thing getting messed up. As I said the worktop is the only out of bounds area. I've even found Hugo asleep in the bathroom sink! The conservatory (built in September after saving for 4 years) continues to be a den/cat cave/ chill out area for them. Here it's referred to as The Inside Outside as they spend more time there than the garden
 

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Yeah, as long as they're safe and healthy, what can you do?:winkcat:
Yeah, as long as they're safe and healthy, what can you do?:winkcat:
Exactly! I have just worked out that my two cats have about £1.50 worth of treats a day that adds up to about £540 a year. That's not counting days where they have a bit extra and when wafer thin ham is bought. They get so much pleasure from them and the whole ritual of eating them off special tiny plates. I took the photo above about ten minutes ago while Hugo was padding, purring and generally trying to get round me and be given some crunchies. It was very cute!
 

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Thank you. He is a little sweetie! He did get round me but I have him some slices of good quality wafer thin ham. So thin you can see through them. I was feeling a little disturbed after reading the PETA article about vegan diets for cats and dogs. It almost promotes the idea. I totally understand people's moral objections and health concerns in being vegan but fail when it's applied to our carnivorous friends. In the UK it's not something I've seen much of but if it did catch on surely it would be difficult as we don't have the variety of specialist pet foods available and the supplements they would need. Pressing our dietry habits and beliefs on our pets, especially when it could be detrimental to their health is as strong a moral wrong as the abuse of any animals. I understand that pet food can contain the worst of the worst quality of meat and additives that would be illegal in human good a thousand times over but there is a simple solution to that. Good quality pet food is out there, even here in the UK. While the variety is limited it's not hard to provide a safe, ethical and affordable diet for our beloved friends. I've not read a lot about vegan diets for pets but what I have read has confused and amazed me. Is it just a passing fad? An industry set up to exploit a non existent need and play on our love of all animals? Last time I checked (10 minutes ago!) Hugo and Carter were passionate and professional carnivores. Tberes a few non meat or dairy things that they like, for example warm basmati rice, fresh mint from the garden and some pasta and noodles but without dairy, meat and fish these two would refuse to eat. When I tried the supermarket own brand wet food that was in the finest range they flatly refused to eat it. I tried repeatedly and gave up the battle of wills in less than half a day. Their diets are balanced and consists of high quality wet and dry food, tins of ethical tuna in spring water as a weekly treat and the odd really expensive sachet of high end cat food that's 99% fish and shrimp. It's rounded off with ham, chicken and whatever delicacies are leftover from our food. If I was lucky enough to win the lottery then there would be no limit to how far Id go to give them a diet that is financially beyond my reach at the moment but until then I'm happy with what they eat and as far as I'm aware so are they. This question is such a can of worms that poses endless argument and debate and I will start reading more about it but won't be going vegan any time soon.
 

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Re the lottery win. If it was a really big one then I must admit I would fly my cats fresh lobster in from Maine just the once to say that is done it. Maybe a worldwide seafood round trip while I'm paying for the jet so some giant shrimp, squid and fish and bit extra for us. It's just a ridiculous daydream that first requires me to buy a ticket!
 

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Thank you. He is a little sweetie! He did get round me but I have him some slices of good quality wafer thin ham. So thin you can see through them. I was feeling a little disturbed after reading the PETA article about vegan diets for cats and dogs. It almost promotes the idea. I totally understand people's moral objections and health concerns in being vegan but fail when it's applied to our carnivorous friends. In the UK it's not something I've seen much of but if it did catch on surely it would be difficult as we don't have the variety of specialist pet foods available and the supplements they would need. Pressing our dietry habits and beliefs on our pets, especially when it could be detrimental to their health is as strong a moral wrong as the abuse of any animals. I understand that pet food can contain the worst of the worst quality of meat and additives that would be illegal in human good a thousand times over but there is a simple solution to that. Good quality pet food is out there, even here in the UK. While the variety is limited it's not hard to provide a safe, ethical and affordable diet for our beloved friends. I've not read a lot about vegan diets for pets but what I have read has confused and amazed me. Is it just a passing fad? An industry set up to exploit a non existent need and play on our love of all animals? Last time I checked (10 minutes ago!) Hugo and Carter were passionate and professional carnivores. Tberes a few non meat or dairy things that they like, for example warm basmati rice, fresh mint from the garden and some pasta and noodles but without dairy, meat and fish these two would refuse to eat. When I tried the supermarket own brand wet food that was in the finest range they flatly refused to eat it. I tried repeatedly and gave up the battle of wills in less than half a day. Their diets are balanced and consists of high quality wet and dry food, tins of ethical tuna in spring water as a weekly treat and the odd really expensive sachet of high end cat food that's 99% fish and shrimp. It's rounded off with ham, chicken and whatever delicacies are leftover from our food. If I was lucky enough to win the lottery then there would be no limit to how far Id go to give them a diet that is financially beyond my reach at the moment but until then I'm happy with what they eat and as far as I'm aware so are they. This question is such a can of worms that poses endless argument and debate and I will start reading more about it but won't be going vegan any time soon.
Just in case you don't know, it's well documented that the head of that particular organization has stated she "loves" killing animals, and that that organization advocates for killing free-roaming cats and against TNR. They are also documented as killing almost all of the cats (and dogs) collected from trusting people who are given the LIE that they will be found good loving homes for. I don't know why anyone supports that organization or believes anything any of them says. They are o friends of animals and NO friends of mine.
 

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Ingrid is a mental case. Did anyone of you see the thing about her wanting her body parts sent to people in her will?
 
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