After hairball surgery

[artiemom]

I think Irmik is very very sick. I know you are trying.. and ((hugs)) to you for doing the best you are able to do, under the circumstances.

I think sometimes, WE, cannot grasp the fact that in other countries, veterinarian care is so very different than that of the USA.
A lot of the advice from here, is geared towards our standards of vet care. We do no understand how it is to be in a completely different country.. never mind, if you are in a rural area.. and with limited resources.

Yes, Irmik, needs intensive help at this point..

She does need to be taken back in, and given, at least some Sub-Q fluids.. In the USA, that is the standard treatment for cats who are looking so sick.. And she does need the endoscopy. At this point, it needs to be done as soon as possible. She needs to be started on a regimen of treatment.

I am not certain if you can afford it.. or if the Vets, you are dealing with, are able to supply the treatment.

As far as undergoing anesthesia.. well, Irmik, is very sick.. You are doing your best. You are at your wit's end trying to help her... but are limited, by location, monetary expenses, living at home with your parents, etc. There are many factors involved.

We know you love Irmik.. It is very apparent.. We get that.

Dry food is not all bad--if it is the only food you can get and can she can keep down. Right now it is a combination of discovering the source of he issues, giving the appropriate treatment, and feeding the correct food.

When I suggested Rabbit food--dry.. I am only saying that a novel protein--- some type of meat based food that she has not had, may help her---from an allergy/sensitivity point. That is, if she can keep it down.
With my last cat, I knew he was allergic to chicken, from the fact that each time he ate it, he immediately vomited.
So I avoided all chicken food.

The rabbit, which is what was suggested, is a novel protein.. something he has never had. It can be duck, venison, kangaroo, etc.... What ever is available in your Country. Yes, it is expensive, compared to other foods, but....

I sincerely wish you the best.. and Irmik.. I am sending you (((Hugs))) and thinking about you...

Too much information can be confusing.. yet, being aware of things, can help... so do what you can..

Right now, Irmik needs to be stabilized.. and take it from there....

 

[Sevilay28]

Thank you everyone for your support. This was so precious to me.
As for the latest news, she received serum support today. I had the blood counts checked, everything seems fine. There is no reason not to have an endoscopy, of course there is always the possibility of developing an allergy to anestesia. Tonight I will pray to God that nothing like this will happen.
Tomorrow morning we will change our city and go there. I will inform you.

 

[cat nap]

Thank you everyone for your support. This was so precious to me.
As for the latest news, she received serum support today. I had the blood counts checked, everything seems fine. There is no reason not to have an endoscopy, of course there is always the possibility of developing an allergy to anestesia. Tonight I will pray to God that nothing like this will happen.
Tomorrow morning we will change our city and go there. I will inform you.

We will be sending prayers, too, Sevilay28 ..for your beautiful Irmik.
All of us, here, will be sending good Thoughts, and Health thoughts...for your Irmik.

Remember to ask:
about the "Biopsy"...this time.
-even a small scraping may help...if needed...to be sampled
-ask if they can place some 'medicine'..through the endoscope...on the actual ulcer,...if they see one
The Vet Specialists know their job,...but it never hurts to ask...what they can do for your Irmik immediately

I know you said that they do not give you 'reports of the endoscopy'...or 'ultrasounds'...but if somehow they can get that information...from the previous endoscopic report...then they can compare.
Hopefully, the Vet Specialist has already read the previous reports.

Sending you Thoughts of Health, Strength and that God helps the Vet Specialists...to help your Irmik.

 

[Sevilay28]

We will be sending prayers, too, Sevilay28 ..for your beautiful Irmik.
All of us, here, will be sending good Thoughts, and Health thoughts...for your Irmik.

Remember to ask:
about the "Biopsy"...this time.
-even a small scraping may help...if needed...to be sampled
-ask if they can place some 'medicine'..through the endoscope...on the actual ulcer,...if they see one
The Vet Specialists know their job,...but it never hurts to ask...what they can do for your Irmik immediately

I know you said that they do not give you 'reports of the endoscopy'...or 'ultrasounds'...but if somehow they can get that information...from the previous endoscopic report...then they can compare.
Hopefully, the Vet Specialist has already read the previous reports.

Sending you Thoughts of Health, Strength and that God helps the Vet Specialists...to help your Irmik.

We came to the faculty of animal hospital. X-rays will be taken first. I was not told but on the x-ray there is a small black round thing in the stomach? How?
They will compare it to the previous one. I think it will be endoscopy and tomography. please pray

 

[Sevilay28]

the ultrasound showed peristalsis disruption in the colon part. He said it would get better with a drug called Motilium, but I still insisted on endoscopy. I hope I don't regret

 

[cat nap]

Extra prayers sent for your Irmik.
Good that you insisted on endoscopy.
Irmik is very sick, but very strong, too,...to have this for over 23 days.

 

[Sevilay28]

I don't know if the news is good or bad. The endoscopy result showed that the stomach of the Irmik was very clean the doctor was surprised. They saw on ultrasound that there was a peristalsis problem in the intestine. When they saw the stomach with endoscopy, they thought that it might be pyloric stenosis, because there was again a pile of hair, and they even cleaned it a little. Our current journey is to go back on Monday and have a barium X-ray, if there is a stenosis, they will open it with surgery.
But the intestinal problem they saw on the ultrasound bothers me. Could it be inflammatory bowel disease? I said. He said that diagnostic laparotomy is required for this.* feels troubled*

 

[artiemom]

Well, at least you got some information. Much more than you had before.. ((hugs))

My guy, Artie, had a motility issue.. He took meds for it. It is related to Inflammatory Bowel Disease.

Pyloric Stenosis is a birth defect.. only treatable by surgery. This is what is causing her huge, uncomfortable projectile vomiting. The projectile vomiting was the clue..

The Barium study should definitely give some clarification on this. I think it would be a series of x-rays, over certain time periods, following the barium through the intestine.. Or it could just be a Quick Barium Swallow--
(I was an x-ray tech).

So glad you are now in the correct Vet's hands.

One step at a time.. at least now, you are getting answers as to Irmik's vomiting episodes.
(((Hugs)))

 

[cat nap]

I think these initial findings are good.
Atleast, now you know about the various problems, and they can focus on it further on Monday.
With the intestinal problems, as long as they did not mention intussusception, then I hope the peristalsis in the colon may be helped with medications..or even laxatives, fiber.

What will they do for Irmik, now.
To give her nutrients? over the weekend.
She needs them.

 

[Sevilay28]

Yes, they gave domperidone and paraffin to increase peristalsis. Let's see if this will prevent her from vomiting. I even say okay to the possibility of surgery because I don't want her to have ibd. Let her be diagnosed with pyloric stenosis, have surgery and be done. Please.
ALL MY LOVE AND BEST WISHES FOR YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!

 

[Sevilay28]

I think these initial findings are good.
Atleast, now you know about the various problems, and they can focus on it further on Monday.
With the intestinal problems, as long as they did not mention intussusception, then I hope the peristalsis in the colon may be helped with medications..or even laxatives, fiber.

What will they do for Irmik, now.
To give her nutrients? over the weekend.
She needs them.

I think I'll give her a little bit of wet food so as not to induce vomiting.
I think this confirms that, even when giving wet food, she sometimes felt like throwing up. So..... I hope...
I'm trying to convince myself of every diagnosis.. Okay, let it be pyloric stenosis, then what in the intestine??? Post-operative complication ileus??? They could not answer this.

 

[cat nap]

I think I'll give her a little bit of wet food so as not to induce vomiting.
I think this confirms that, even when giving wet food, she sometimes felt like throwing up. So..... I hope...
I'm trying to convince myself of every diagnosis.. Okay, let it be pyloric stenosis, then what in the intestine??? Post-operative complication ileus??? They could not answer this.

It does seem like it could be post-operative complication ileus...especially if it is near to the area first operated on, laparoscopically,...but let's just hope that the Vet Specialists can get this all fixed...and properly treated...now that they have something to focus on.

Whatever happened to the ulcer that was first seen?

If there is no ulcer, then you can probably try feeding Irmik kitten wet food, that has more calories, or blending her wet food down...into a very soupy mixture. If her Liver values are good, even goat milk should be okay. Also, grind the dry food into powder...and sprinkle on top of wet food.

Trying to think of any foods that would be easier to digest...like baby food in jars...(with no onions or garlic)...only meat baby food.(not sure which brands they sell in Turkey)

 

[Sevilay28]

Also, grind the dry food into powder...and sprinkle on top of wet food.

But she was also vomits when I powdered it before.. Fortunately, nothing in the stomach..
Now I've given her medication, please don't vomit.. We still have a solution.. Barium graphy..
I want to hope

 

[cat nap]

But she was also vomits when I powdered it before.. Fortunately, nothing in the stomach..
Now I've given her medication, please don't vomit.. We still have a solution.. Barium graphy..
I want to hope

Feed her what you think is best.
I just thought more type of liquidy diet, or more calories would help.
But yes, she needs to keep it down...or most of it...so small portions...like you are doing is good.

Yes, Please don't vomit, Irmik.
And be Well Soon.
Hold on to Monday.

Hope is always good.
Hope is all we have.
(hoping the Vet Specialists know how to fix this, too.)

 

[artiemom]

But she was also vomits when I powdered it before.. Fortunately, nothing in the stomach..
Now I've given her medication, please don't vomit.. We still have a solution.. Barium graphy..
I want to hope

Yes, The pyloric stenosis will be causing her to vomit. This is the cause of the vomiting, and of the accusation of the massive fur ball.

There is HOPE>>> Yes, there is!! You are on the right track. Did the Vets give you any ideas on how and what to feed her, until the Barium study? I would think, the thinner wet foods; unless you think things are going well with the dry. f so, then keep doing what you are doing.

Remember, the medications will take a while to 'kick' in. Irmik, may still vomit, but it should be decreasing... over time..

Now, you have a cause for the extreme vomiting!! Hooray! This is the beginning of a 'fix"....

As far as ileum: I now have my second cat, who was diagnosed with an ileus!! Crazy..
Geoffrey's was seen on an x-ray at my regular Vets. When I took him into the specialist last year, it was not there.. and his ultrasound was negative!!
On another note: "I" have an ileus, also!! Sometimes, I feel it is just a 'catch all' phrase when Radiologists (X-ray Doctors) do not know what is going on...

((hugs)))

 

[Sevilay28]

Feed her what you think is best.
I just thought more type of liquidy diet, or more calories would help.
But yes, she needs to keep it down...or most of it...so small portions...like you are doing is good.

Yes, Please don't vomit, Irmik.
And be Well Soon.
Hold on to Monday.

Hope is always good.
Hope is all we have.
(hoping the Vet Specialists know how to fix this, too.)

thank you!!!!!

Yes, The pyloric stenosis will be causing her to vomit. This is the cause of the vomiting, and of the accusation of the massive fur ball.

There is HOPE>>> Yes, there is!! You are on the right track. Did the Vets give you any ideas on how and what to feed her, until the Barium study? I would think, the thinner wet foods; unless you think things are going well with the dry. f so, then keep doing what you are doing.

Remember, the medications will take a while to 'kick' in. Irmik, may still vomit, but it should be decreasing... over time..

Now, you have a cause for the extreme vomiting!! Hooray! This is the beginning of a 'fix"....

As far as ileum: I now have my second cat, who was diagnosed with an ileus!! Crazy..
Geoffrey's was seen on an x-ray at my regular Vets. When I took him into the specialist last year, it was not there.. and his ultrasound was negative!!
On another note: "I" have an ileus, also!! Sometimes, I feel it is just a 'catch all' phrase when Radiologists (X-ray Doctors) do not know what is going on...

((hugs)))

YOU GUYS ARE THE ANGELS IN THE EARTH I SWEAR! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITHOUT YOU GUYS! This was the first place I wrote when I heard any news about my cat. This is where I get my strength. The place that holds my hand as I go on to fight. Thank you.
As for feeding, I'm also on the side of wet foods, they will pass more easily through the stomach. I just did a little experiment. I told you, she didnt vomit while eating wet food. I increased the amount slightly. First she burps, then she vomited a little food and water (she took some liquid out of hher mouth, nothing much) (if it was dry food, she would probably have taken it all out. Or domperidone and vaseline had an effect? We'll see)
My mentally ill mind is questioning: God I think so much that I wish I could turn my brain off.
Pyloric stenosis can happen for 2 reason in our situation
1) congenital
2) secondary to chronic gastritis
If it is congenital, wonderful! Do the Surgery and fix it! But then what is the lack of peristalsis in the intestine on ultrasound?
But if it is not congenital, it was caused by chronic gastritis. Why did she have gastritis? - >Because of the hairball. Why did the fluff accumulate in stomach -> unfortunately, inflammatory bowel disease. Can this damn disease get out of my life and my head please?

 

[Sevilay28]

Oh, by the way. I told you that Irmik eats plastic things like slippers before. Cats with decreased motility in the gastrointestinal tract had abnormal eating behavior. I think that's revealed too

 

[IndyJones]

It's perfectly normal to be worried when loved ones aren't feeling well.

Don't use google to search for medical symptoms if you can help it. Often it jumps to worst-case scenarios or things that are totally irrelevant.

My vet has a coffee mug that I love

This is just a picture I found on the website but I love it.

 

[Sevilay28]

It's perfectly normal to be worried when loved ones aren't feeling well.

Don't use google to search for medical symptoms if you can help it. Often it jumps to worst-case scenarios or things that are totally irrelevant.

My vet has a coffee mug that I love

This is just a picture I found on the website but I love it.

HAJAJJAJA This is hilarius
And i agree, I wish I had never heard of ibd in my life

 

[artiemom]

thank you!!!!!
YOU GUYS ARE THE ANGELS IN THE EARTH I SWEAR! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITHOUT YOU GUYS! This was the first place I wrote when I heard any news about my cat. This is where I get my strength. The place that holds my hand as I go on to fight. Thank you.
As for feeding, I'm also on the side of wet foods, they will pass more easily through the stomach. I just did a little experiment. I told you, she didnt vomit while eating wet food. I increased the amount slightly. First she burps, then she vomited a little food and water (she took some liquid out of hher mouth, nothing much) (if it was dry food, she would probably have taken it all out. Or domperidone and vaseline had an effect? We'll see)
My mentally ill mind is questioning: God I think so much that I wish I could turn my brain off.
Pyloric stenosis can happen for 2 reason in our situation
1) congenital
2) secondary to chronic gastritis
If it is congenital, wonderful! Do the Surgery and fix it! But then what is the lack of peristalsis in the intestine on ultrasound?
But if it is not congenital, it was caused by chronic gastritis. Why did she have gastritis? - >Because of the hairball. Why did the fluff accumulate in stomach -> unfortunately, inflammatory bowel disease. Can this damn disease get out of my life and my head please?

I think Pyloric Stenosis is congenital. I do not think it is an 'acquired" abnormality.
The gastritis is just a symptom of the stenosis...

Think of an inflated balloon: When the middle is squeezed to almost being shut down, the air has to come out, somewhere. The esophagus is the opening for it to come up and out---therefore, Vomiting!!

Having that junk hanging around in there is causing the gastric distress-- the stomach juices are just churning around, with no where to go....

Honestly, I never heard of Pyloric Stenosis being associated with IBD.. for the above reasons..

Oh, by the way. I told you that Irmik eats plastic things like slippers before. Cats with decreased motility in the gastrointestinal tract had abnormal eating behavior. I think that's revealed too

Again, I never heard of this... My Guy, Geoffrey has PICA... eats everything--especially plastic. I have to be so careful.

I think decreased motility is another genetic/heredity thing/anomaly... I do not think it is an acquired disease/syndrome.

From my understanding, it is a decrease in the function of the nerve/muscle stimulation. Probably a chemical or physical problem... Just my understanding. Not something that YOU or your baby made.. something she was born with...
~~~

FWIW: WE are NOT angels... The Owners and Caretakers of these little ones are Angels... So that means YOU
are Irmik's Angel...
We are just people who have either had personal experience with these things, or have dealt with them in our careers..
We are caring people who want to help....

((HUGS))

Also, Remember--- ONE step at a time... otherwise, you will get overwhelmed.. I think you can trust in these Vets...
They sound like they are good for Irmik--and YOU!