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oh my goodness, they are so beautiful.

Carmelo has such gentle eyes.. I never would have imagined that wild cats can bond to humans and be so affectionate!
 
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Originally Posted by eupnea

oh my goodness, they are so beautiful.

Carmelo has such gentle eyes.. I never would have imagined that wild cats can bond to humans and be so affectionate!
It is truly a wonderful experience as well.

They are all just gorgeous!! I love Carmelo's tail. Are they very talkative? Thanks for sharing the pictures
That tail is something else. It is so long and thick. When he gets running around and playing, I have been hit in the face with that tail
Yes, they are talkative, but they do not meow like our domestic friends. The bobcats make a high pitched barking sound and other noises that are hard to describe. The cougar makes some very friendly high pitched chirps that sounds like a bird. Of course, I have heard him make the loud cougar scream/yell when they get playing and Amber bites his feet or tail
The bobcats and cougar all purr as well. The cougar is the largest cat that can purr. Lions, tigers, leopards and other big cats can not purr.
 

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OK, first off I would like to say how beautiful all your felines are! I love the domestics as well as the exotics! I think you and your wife take wonder care of them and have proved yourselves highly informed and educated in proper care of all of your animals! I do have one question myself. It seems that there is so much to caring for these animals, how much cost is involved with caring for them? I saw you said you were at work when you posted before, what do you do? Do you and your wife both work or does someone stay home with them all the time? Ok, thats about it from me. Thanks, Silly Jilly
 
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Originally Posted by SillyJilly

OK, first off I would like to say how beautiful all your felines are! I love the domestics as well as the exotics! I think you and your wife take wonder care of them and have proved yourselves highly informed and educated in proper care of all of your animals! I do have one question myself. It seems that there is so much to caring for these animals, how much cost is involved with caring for them? I saw you said you were at work when you posted before, what do you do? Do you and your wife both work or does someone stay home with them all the time? Ok, thats about it from me. Thanks, Silly Jilly
Thank you for the kind words
As for the cost, I spend approx $35-$50 per week on food alone, this will increase as well as Carmelo grows. There was the cost of the enclosure for Nakoma, close to $1,600. I will need to build another more costly enclosure for Carmelo as well.The vet bills, those can be much higher than a domestic. However, I have a wonderful vet that charges me the same for my exotics as she would my domestics
There is also the cost of the state license/permits and liability insurance if it is required. I am not required to have insurance, which is a very good thing. I do require a state permit. I work as a police/fire/911 dispatcher. My wife and I both work, but the majority of the time, we are on different shifts. I work a lot of afternoon shifts, as I am now and my wife works during the day. I am home with the cats in the morning and my wife is with them in the evening. If we both work during the day, the cats sleep most of the time while we are gone. We just get up very early, 4am, so we can feed and play with them before heading off for work
 
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I know this is going to sound gross to many of you, but I got the BIG kids a treat for tonight. I got them frozen rats
Whole prey food, the best they can get. Of course, the rats will be served thawed. Hmmm, should I take some pictures of this for all to see
 

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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat

I know this is going to sound gross to many of you, but I got the BIG kids a treat for tonight. I got them frozen rats
Whole prey food, the best they can get. Of course, the rats will be served thawed. Hmmm, should I take some pictures of this for all to see
I bet they loved their treat!


Your cats are amazing! I'm impressed by them.
From what I've read you do a terrific job taking care of them, its obvious by looking at the pictures how well cared and happy all of them are!

I have some questions:
* have they ever been aggresive? have you ever been biten? I'm thinking what if you accidently stepped on the tail of one of your exotics or if he suddenly got frightened.
* have the exotic ones ever slept on your bed with you at night?

* do the domestic and exotic cats cuddle with each other?
* can your friends/family pet your exotic cats?
* did your domestic cats get used to the exotic ones quickly? or did it take time for them to be introduced?
* what does nakoma mean?
* do exotic cats have soft fur or is it a bit rough?
* do the domestics ever clean the exotic ones? my cats used to "bathe" each other, I wonder if exotics and domestics do the same thing
* and.. is there a heriarchy with your cats?

sorry I have soo many questions.. I have more but I'm getting a little carried away so I rather stop.

Lil Roar is soo beautiful!!
Carmelo has changed so much! he's so big!
Nakoma is so lucky you found her, I'm glad you rescued her and gave her the love and care she deserves.
 

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I can't believe I haven't seen this thread yet, where have I been?! Your exotic cats are beautiful!! I love seeing pictures of them... You're so dedicated to them, it's wonderful.
 
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Originally Posted by kateyes

I bet they loved their treat!
Well, they sure did love their treat...playing with them like it was a new toy
Even though they get an all raw meat diet, sometimes they just don't know what to do with whole prey. I will give it to them again though.
have some questions:
* have they ever been aggresive? have you ever been biten? I'm thinking what if you accidently stepped on the tail of one of your exotics or if he suddenly got frightened
Well, for the bobcats, it is pretty difficult to step on their tails because they are so short. As for the cougar, his tail is very long and I have not stepped on it, but yesterday it got shut in the door as he was coming inside from being out in the enclosure. His tail is so long, that you see him inside the house and yet 5 inches of his tail is still outside. Well, it was the screen door, so he did not get injured, thank God. He did yell, that was all and he looked at me like::censor::censor::censor:: I felt bad that I did that. Do they get aggressive? Yes, they can, but this usually happens when they play. When you play with these guys, you have to know when to stop or they can get overly stimulated and get quite feisty. With Boris, he doesn't really do this, but Amber is another story. They will let you know when they are getting a little crazy. I just stop and walk away. 5 minutes later, they are back to normal. They key here is this. When you see them getting very excited, you stop. That way, you never cross that threshold. With the cougar, he wants to play rough all the time, this is normal. Sort of like a puppy. You always use a toy to play with him, never your arms, legs, hands or any other body part. They will learn that these items are not for playing with or biting. Also, what you do not want him to do when he is an adult, you do not do with him now, such as wrestle or let him chase you. Yes, he would love to wrestle with me, but I do not let him. I will sit on the floor with him and he will come and sit on my lap. I always have a large toy for him and he knows to bite and chew on the toy. Have I ever been bitten? Yes, by Amber during play, but it was an accident. I went to pick up a toy at the exact same time SHE wanted the toy. I got the toy and she got my hand. After I cleaned it, Amber groomed my hand as if to say, I'm sorry. I have not been bitten by Boris, Nakoma or Carmelo cougar.
* have the exotic ones ever slept on your bed with you at night?
Amber and Boris do sleep on the bed, but usually close to your feet. Nakoma lives outside in an enclsoure, so I am not sure if he would sleep with us or not. Carmelo cougar however, is a bed hog
He sleeps between my wife and I and has his own pillow. I will rolll over in the middle of the night and be sleeping face to face with a cougar. He will even put his big paws around you and hug and purr you to sleep.
* do the domestic and exotic cats cuddle with each other?
Yes they do

* can your friends/family pet your exotic cats?
Yes they can however, I normally don't let anyone handle or touch them, unless they are another exotic cat owner or friends who have been around the cats since they were kittens. I never let any strangers come into contact with them as well. I am not saying that they would be mean or agressive to anyone, but I never take chances. ANY animal can be aggressive around other people they are not familiar with. I am sure many people who own domestic cats or dogs can agree with this.
* did your domestic cats get used to the exotic ones quickly? or did it take time for them to be introduced?
It took them a while, the main reason was due to their different scent. They have a different scent than a domestic cat, so our domestics were like, what the heck is THAT thing. They look like a cat, even though they have a short tail, but they smell weird
(Well to a cat) After they got used to Amber, who was our first, they took to the new additions rather well.
* what does nakoma mean?
Hmmm, good question. That was his name who the original owner gave him. I was going to change it, since the original owner abused this poor guy, but I really liked the name. So, I kept it as as.
* do exotic cats have soft fur or is it a bit rough?
The bobcats have very soft fur, especially the fur that hangs down the side of their face. With the cougar, his fur isn't rough, but it is more course than the bobcats and not as soft.
* do the domestics ever clean the exotic ones? my cats used to "bathe" each other, I wonder if exotics and domestics do the same thing
Yes, the bobcats and domestics will groom each other. However, they will not groom the cougar. The cougar will groom himself, but that is it. The cougar doesn't groom himself as much as the other cats will. When he is done eating, he will prefer to wipe his feet on the scratching post instead of licking them
He does groom, but cougars or at least Carmelo, does not seem to as fastidious about being clean as the bobcats or domestics are.
* and.. is there a heriarchy with your cats?
Yes, Aurora is THE queen and king of the house...really. Aurora is a 14 pound female domestic Pixie Bob and she let's you know who is boss.

sorry I have soo many questions.. I have more but I'm getting a little carried away so I rather stop.
No problem. If you have more I am more than happy to answer
 

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I'm sure my Aristotle would love those rats. He does like to take the mice he catches and let them "mummify" under the fridge. Then they last a lot longer and really skid across the floor!

I must know - what does cougar breath smell like? Especially when you're half asleep? :lo3:
 

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I have this great mental picture of Aurora putting the exotics in their place!!!! Small yet mighty!!!! (well...in comparison to the exotics!)
 

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Your cats rock, especially Carmelo.. Keep up the good work


Not sure if this was answered - I didn't see it if it was - are they all litter trained?
 
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Originally Posted by gemlady

I'm sure my Aristotle would love those rats. He does like to take the mice he catches and let them "mummify" under the fridge. Then they last a lot longer and really skid across the floor!

I must know - what does cougar breath smell like? Especially when you're half asleep? :lo3:
Actually, their breath doesn't have the smell our domestics have, especially after they have eaten canned food.
I have this great mental picture of Aurora putting the exotics in their place!!!! Small yet mighty!!!! (well...in comparison to the exotics!)
My gosh, she can be a real brat at times. You should see her at feeding time. I have 2 large dog bowls filled with their food to feed 5 domestic cats. Well, Aurora will be eating out of one and the other 4 will be at the other one. Aurora will even yell at our 16 year old when she tries to eat. Of course only after she is done eating, can the others eat out of HER bowl
Aurora says, you talking about me? Yeah, I'm bad I'm bad.

Not sure if this was answered - I didn't see it if it was - are they all litter trained?
Yes, for the most part. However, cougars are lazy and will pee right where they are sleeping. Sort of like a kid who wets the bed
So, to protect our bed, I have to have a plastic tarp on top of all OUR blankets on the bed. On top of that, I have an old blanket that Carmelo sleeps on. That way, if he does go, it is on his blanket only and that can be washed easy. When he is awake, he will go in the box. But heck, why not just go where you are sleeping so you don't have to get up in the middle of the night
 

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They are so incredible. I volunteered at an exotic feline rescue once. No direct contact of course but still..having a tiger lunge at you from behind a fence can get your heart pumping! Many of the animals come in abused or with some kind of ailment/special needs that zoos won't take them. Arthritis, epilepsy, amputated leg, bad temperment, etc... It is quite the experience being around exotics. If I had more time I would be out there volunteering a lot more often!!
 

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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat

Yes, for the most part. However, cougars are lazy and will pee right where they are sleeping. Sort of like a kid who wets the bed
So, to protect our bed, I have to have a plastic tarp on top of all OUR blankets on the bed. On top of that, I have an old blanket that Carmelo sleeps on. That way, if he does go, it is on his blanket only and that can be washed easy. When he is awake, he will go in the box. But heck, why not just go where you are sleeping so you don't have to get up in the middle of the night
Oh boy! I hope you don't have to deal with that often. Meeka, being whole, will pee just about anywhere that pleases her. At least she spares our bed! My fiance is pretty tolerant, but he'd have her booted out in short order if she did it on the bed...
 
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Originally Posted by SolarityBengals

Oh boy! I hope you don't have to deal with that often. Meeka, being whole, will pee just about anywhere that pleases her. At least she spares our bed! My fiance is pretty tolerant, but he'd have her booted out in short order if she did it on the bed...
Well, the bed is covered, so the only thing that gets wet is HIS blanket. He has his own bedroom too, for when I want a good nights sleep and his own bed. Yep, he pees on that one too, but that one is covered as well. Our female bobcat Amber, will have her moments when she will spray, even though she is spayed. That's just how these guys are. However, she will spray in the same areas, so I have those areas covered with plastic as well. These are just some of the adjustments you need to make with exotics
Now our boy Boris is really good with the litter box, as well as all the domestics. Aurora will pee on the floor if she has too much catnip

Aurora's the queen!!
She heard that and says...you bet I am
 

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thanks for answering my questions.


I'm seriously in love with all of your cats!!
 

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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat

Aurora will pee on the floor if she has too much catnip
Oh Aurora....from all you've said she is one heck of a character. I mean she pushes around a few bobcats and cougars, and still manages to look gorgeous. Tough job!
 
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Originally Posted by Renny

Oh Aurora....from all you've said she is one heck of a character. I mean she pushes around a few bobcats and cougars, and still manages to look gorgeous. Tough job!
Yes and she is my girl
She sleeps cuddled with me all night long when she gets the chance
Actually, I never had a cat with so much character, attitude and love all in one.
 
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