FYI... Diamond was recalled too I would be worried to buy anything that made at the same plant as Diamond but that's my opinion.
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Is Wellness Cat Food Ok? Need answers asap!
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Where did you find it? Was it petworld? (I'm assuming there is only one store and I'm going to be talking about the same place) I just switched to Felidae and did not think it was very expensive. The store did not have chicken and rice so I got Cat and kitten, they only had the ten pound bags when I went though. I had e-mailed them and they had said that the 5 pound bags were $8.99. I think it is a great food and the cats love it. I have only had them on it for a short time though so No big results yet but the poop does not smell as bad IMO.
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So apparently felidae is my safest bet at this point?
My cats don't like canned Natural Balance. I have no qualms about feeding my cats Wellness. It may be MADE by Menu Foods but it is not being RECALLED. It has no wheat gluten in it which is the contaminated source. Plus I like that many Wellness flavors are grain free. Merrick is not produced by Menu Foods if you're really uncomfortable buying any Menu Foods product including the ones that are not affected by the recall. Innova is a great brand but it is produced by Menu Foods but not on the recall list for example. Why do we worry about the foods that do not contain wheat gluten and are not affected by the recall?
Oh well, Natural Balance is a terrific food if your cats like it. Mine unfortunately don't like it because it's bland but I do admire the company. They make carnivore diets for zoo animals.
Oh well, Natural Balance is a terrific food if your cats like it. Mine unfortunately don't like it because it's bland but I do admire the company. They make carnivore diets for zoo animals.
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Sadly, at this point, Trixie, I don't think anyone can answer you with a solid "yes".
With the ever-expanding recall (lots more added to the list today
That doesn't leave me with much, but it makes me feel safer than buying something more closely associated with the foods already known to be tainted, you know?
My kittens are getting a rotation of Solid Gold Gourmet and all the Merrick and Natural Balance flavors. They are eating well and looking good.
I have to admit, however, that the constant examples of blatant disregard for my furkids' welfare and complete lack of respect for pet guardians everywhere is wearing me down. My emotions are roiling, I'm angry and nearly ill about this whole thing. When I found out that the Menu Foods CFO sold off 45% of his company stock nearly THREE WEEKS before the recall was quietly released on the wire, I almost cried. How many beloved furchildren died so he could pocket that extra change? And does he honestly believe America's pet guardians are perfectly accepting of his "horrible coincidence" excuse?
I don't personally see any problem with dry Wellness.
Personally, I feel safe living by these three words: Avoid Wheat Gluten.
So with that in mind, we're still rotating between our usual brands of canned food ...Innova/California Natural/EVO, Eagle Pack, Wellness, Felidae, Nature's Variety canned and raw, Merrick's, Nutro MAX/NC, and Natural Balance. All of the food my cats eat is free of WHEAT GLUTEN.
To avoid MENU entirely, I'd have to limit that to Merrick's and NB, and that's not going to happen. I'm happy to report that everyone is doing fine.
Personally, I feel safe living by these three words: Avoid Wheat Gluten.
To avoid MENU entirely, I'd have to limit that to Merrick's and NB, and that's not going to happen. I'm happy to report that everyone is doing fine.
This *IS* a scary thing going on.....I am parnoid and stood in in Petco last night for what seems like FOREVER reading the back of labels.
My vet recommended giving Ashley food that has the first three ingrediants (at least the first three) being meats (and water is ok, too, for canned). He suggested Wellness, but I didn't want to head out of my way last night (it was getting late) to the store that carries it (and Petco doesn't). However, I did go for TRIUMPH. It said in nice, OBVIOUS lettering, that it is MADE IN CANADA.
I am guessing that means it is ok, thus far?? And there is no wheat gluten in it....WOOHOO!!!
I haven't gone for the dry cat food yet....I was avoiding canned altogether until Ashie's issues started (other threads....!)....but the dry might be the next on the list if I can find the ingrediants that I want.
But dang.....I am nearly ill over this recall thing, too. I just couldn't even imagine being one of the "victims" with this....for something that totally TOTALLY could've been avoided!!
My vet recommended giving Ashley food that has the first three ingrediants (at least the first three) being meats (and water is ok, too, for canned). He suggested Wellness, but I didn't want to head out of my way last night (it was getting late) to the store that carries it (and Petco doesn't). However, I did go for TRIUMPH. It said in nice, OBVIOUS lettering, that it is MADE IN CANADA.
I am guessing that means it is ok, thus far?? And there is no wheat gluten in it....WOOHOO!!!
I haven't gone for the dry cat food yet....I was avoiding canned altogether until Ashie's issues started (other threads....!)....but the dry might be the next on the list if I can find the ingrediants that I want.
But dang.....I am nearly ill over this recall thing, too. I just couldn't even imagine being one of the "victims" with this....for something that totally TOTALLY could've been avoided!!
Hmmm I'm not real familiar with Triumph. I think I've looked at it at Petco and passed it up. Looking at the ingredients of a few flavors at Petco's website, I'm not impressed. The ones I looked at start off with "meat by products" which is something I avoid. In theory, by products could be OK, however when it comes to reading that on a cat food label, we don't even know what they are...it might as well say "mystery meat". By products can be feet, heads, intestines, etc...you just don't know. I prefer to see named meat items, actually that's a rule with me...such as "Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken Broth...." etc. I even hesitate on ones that say "poultry liver" or "fish broth" etc...because they can't tell me WHICH poultry or WHICH fish. I want to know what it is,....I think it says a lot about the quality of the food when everything is specifically named.Originally Posted by carrie640
My vet recommended giving Ashley food that has the first three ingrediants (at least the first three) being meats (and water is ok, too, for canned). He suggested Wellness, but I didn't want to head out of my way last night (it was getting late) to the store that carries it (and Petco doesn't). However, I did go for TRIUMPH. It said in nice, OBVIOUS lettering, that it is MADE IN CANADA.
I am guessing that means it is ok, thus far?? And there is no wheat gluten in it....WOOHOO!!!
A food at Petco that I like is Natural Balance. It's good stuff, and as a bonus it's one of the very few canned foods that is NOT made by Menu. 7 out of 8 of my cats love it. There are some other good ones at Petco but my Petco is a little weak, so I'm not sure what else to suggest. I know some Petcos carry Solid Gold, which is good too.
You can add Felidae to your list of food not made by Menu. I think I will get some Merrick for my cats and dogs to rotate with Felidae and Canidae. Unfortunately Felidae only had one kind of food for cats but has different stuff for dogs. I don't know any store's around here that has Merrick but they do allow orders online and right now it has free shipping. I may just try that stuff. Anyone likes this stuff? Do cats and dogs like it?Originally Posted by beandip
To avoid MENU entirely, I'd have to limit that to Merrick's and NB, and that's not going to happen. I'm happy to report that everyone is doing fine.
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I just bought some felidae for my kitten last night... The chicken rice formula! She loved it last night but wanted nothing to do with it this morning? Which will end up being a bummer if she decides she isnt into it anymore since I bought her a case! I must say i dont like that felidae has hard chunks of whatever it may be... the kitten doesnt know what to do with these huge clearish chunks? What are they?
I've been biting my tongue as I don't wish to add to any panic and I do personally believe Felidae is safe, BUT where did you get the info about Felidae? When I read the statement on the front page of www.Felidae.com, I only see the typical vague "not affected" statement. I haven't seen anything verifiable that states they don't use Menu. To me "not affected" simply translates to "made by menu but not recalled". And "nor are any of our products produced in any of the recalled production facilities" just translates to "made in one of the OTHER menu facilities". I would think if it was not made by menu, they would proudly state that, like Natural Balance does (at www.naturalbalanceinc.com). Even still, I'm feeding it because it does not contain wheat gluten, and I feel safe with that.
7 out of 8 of my cats really like the Merrick food. I found a store locally that carries it...I'm able to get it for 99 cents a can that way. That is an abnormally low price, but I think you'll come closer to a dollar a can if you can find it locally.
Here is the statement that I saw on the website plus I spoke to them over the phone.
"Industry Can Recall
In light of the unfortunate current pet food recall by other respectable pet food manufacturers, our phone lines and emails are tied up with concerned customers. We want you, our valued customer, to feel secure with the continued use of our products. CANIDAE® Pet Foods in no way is affected by the recall, nor are any of our products produced in any of the recalled production facilities.
CANIDAE Pet Foods also does not produce cuts and gravies, pouches, and does not contain corn, wheat or soybeans in any of our products or formulations, and all ingredients are of US origin.
Our heartfelt concerns go out to all those affected by the recall.
CANIDAE Pet Foods"
"Industry Can Recall
In light of the unfortunate current pet food recall by other respectable pet food manufacturers, our phone lines and emails are tied up with concerned customers. We want you, our valued customer, to feel secure with the continued use of our products. CANIDAE® Pet Foods in no way is affected by the recall, nor are any of our products produced in any of the recalled production facilities.
CANIDAE Pet Foods also does not produce cuts and gravies, pouches, and does not contain corn, wheat or soybeans in any of our products or formulations, and all ingredients are of US origin.
Our heartfelt concerns go out to all those affected by the recall.
CANIDAE Pet Foods"
I've only tried the chicken and rice Felidae once...from memory I think those chunks could have been rice?? I'm not sure. My cats prefer the other one that has several meats in it...the "cat and kitten" formula...or the "platinum". The "platinum" is low calorie and that bugs me but sometimes that's all I can find locally. The multi meat type is mushier, more like ground meat. It wouldn't be good for an allergy cat...but I don't have any worries in that department, thankfully.
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Yeah those chunks are large and ridiculous! I wasnt sure if the other formulation with all of the meat was a safe bet (for her tiny tummy)! If this recall ever goes away I'll expand her options more, at this point my options are limited and chicken and rice seemed like a good starter formula! She is new to wet foo, loves it but only at night time? Wants dry during the day... What gives?
Yes, but did anyone tell you point blank that their food is not produced by Menu?
The part I bolded in your quote is vague and avoids the issue altogether. The rest of it is just fluff, not facts. Think about what they are saying...they feel their food is safe because it was not made in the recalled production facilities and does not contain wheat gluten. That is the same reason I feel their food is safe. Menu foods has dozens of plants, as far as I know...and the recalled food has come out of...2 plants I think? That leaves a lot of "unaffected production facilities" that belong to Menu.
When you go to other company websites that have been confirmed as NON recalled Menu produced foods, the statements are almost identical to Felidae's. "not affected" means just that, "not affected"...it doesn't mean it wasn't made by Menu.
Check out the statment at www.Naturalbalanceinc.com
Now that's a confident straightforward statment.
I am not going to argue with you it's apparent you are trying to scare people even more than they already are. I have SPOKEN to them over the phone and they DO NOT produce their food at Menu. Plus the food does NOT contain any wheat, soybean, corn or by product and they don't buy stuff outside of US. If you believe they produce their food at Menu please provide some proof and don't scare people for no reason. Everyone with pets already paranoid and can't sleep at night you don't have to add to it.
Please take a deep breath and reread my other posts.
I said,
And I also said,
So I keep repeating that I serve menu produced food...I am not trying to scare anyone. I was actually trying to calm people down. I happened to mention in passing that I didn't think Felidae was non-menu...and you pointed it out.
I am only scared of one thing. Wheat gluten.
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See the chaos this brings in! Everyone has different views and opinions, hears different things and so on! I think it is our right to know eactly what we are giving our pets, where it is produced, and so on!
Yes, so true. And I'm sorry for participating in the hijack of your Wellness thread. I almost forgot what the question was. LOL
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Thats ok! Im all for random and off topic conversation! I've always been a dog owner up until a year ago... So things are still new to me, Im up for any opinions or advise!
