Treats for cats who eat frank n prey?

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what do people use as treats for frank n prey cats?

 

[Willowy]

Anything they want :tongue2:. But if you want to avoid nasty ingredients and such, freeze-dried meats are usually good.

 

[princessesme]

If I do offer treats, it usually ends up being freeze dried meats. I know a lot of people recommend Whole Life Freeze Dried Chicken Breast: http://amzn.com/B007THO6XO.

Also, I feed "boneless frankenprey" and my guys tummy doesn't do so well with fresh livers, I typically give him FD Chicken Livers, which are used to meet his 5%.

 

[ldg]

I don't feed them treats, usually. But like the others, if I do, I use freeze dried meat treats - usually freeze dried chicken or freeze dried chicken liver.

 

[space1101]

If I do offer treats, it usually ends up being freeze dried meats. I know a lot of people recommend Whole Life Freeze Dried Chicken Breast: http://amzn.com/B007THO6XO.

Also, I feed "boneless frankenprey" and my guys tummy doesn't do so well with fresh livers, I typically give him FD Chicken Livers, which are used to meet his 5%.

My guys tummy doesn't do well with fresh livers, either.  I wonder why.  Everytime I gave them fresh liver, I see shapeless poops in litter.  I wonder why.

 

[ldg]

How are you feeding the fresh liver - and how much? If the 5% liver in a prey model raw diet is fed all at once, it usually winds up with soft poop. Most split it into 2-3 meals fed with meat and or meat/bone. Liver is high in phosphorus, and it's best fed with some form of calcium, or you get soft poop.

The problem a couple of my kids have with fresh liver is they can't keep it down.

 

[space1101]

Maybe I gave them too much.   I didn't really weigh the meat and liver, I typically just eye measure it, and it is about 5-10% of the meal..

Besides liver, which organs do you feed them?  Should we feed kidney? 

 

[ldg]

Yep. The prey model raw guidelines are 80% meat, 6-10% bone, 5% liver, and 5% "other secreting organ," which includes kidney, spleen, pancreas, brains.... heart and gizzards are both "muscle' organs.

I feed beef kidney because it's easy to source. I have several cats that HATE kidney (or can't keep it down). For them, I either give 10% raw liver, or freeze dried liver (at the fresh 10% equivalent). But I just ordered green tripe with spleen, so we'll see how that goes... :lol3:

 

[mrsgreenjeens]

Yep. The prey model raw guidelines are 80% meat, 6-10% bone, 5% liver, and 5% "other secreting organ," which includes kidney, spleen, pancreas, brains.... heart and gizzards are both "muscle' organs.

I feed beef kidney because it's easy to source. I have several cats that HATE kidney (or can't keep it down). For them, I either give 10% raw liver, or freeze dried liver (at the fresh 10% equivalent). But I just ordered green tripe with spleen, so we'll see how that goes...

I'm guessing you'll be cutting and separating THAT outside because of the stench

.  Can't wait to hear all about it.  (secretly, I've been thinking about ordering this myself...maybe that's what it's going to take to get my pickies to LOVE raw

)

 

[princessesme]

Yep. The prey model raw guidelines are 80% meat, 6-10% bone, 5% liver, and 5% "other secreting organ," which includes kidney, spleen, pancreas, brains.... heart and gizzards are both "muscle' organs.

I feed beef kidney because it's easy to source. I have several cats that HATE kidney (or can't keep it down). For them, I either give 10% raw liver, or freeze dried liver (at the fresh 10% equivalent). But I just ordered green tripe with spleen, so we'll see how that goes...

I'm guessing you'll be cutting and separating THAT outside because of the stench

.  Can't wait to hear all about it.  (secretly, I've been thinking about ordering this myself...maybe that's what it's going to take to get my pickies to LOVE raw

)

When I cut up our kidney, it actually wasn't too bad! I really didn't smell anything. It just stinks that Naku can't keep it down and Esme just won't touch it.

 

[ldg]

I'm guessing you'll be cutting and separating THAT outside because of the stench :lol3: .  Can't wait to hear all about it.  (secretly, I've been thinking about ordering this myself...maybe that's what it's going to take to get my pickies to LOVE raw )

Yeah, in 20 degrees, I'll go have fun using the picnic table covered in ice. I'm thinking... working with it inside while it's still mostly frozen - instead of working with it outside so I become mostly frozen. :lol3:

When I cut up our kidney, it actually wasn't too bad! I really didn't smell anything. It just stinks that Naku can't keep it down and Esme just won't touch it.

I agree, but Carolina called it jelly pee. She must have had a particularly stinky batch? :dk: I've also found that if I don't let it dethaw all the way, I can hardly smell it.

...which is why I'm hoping it'll be simliar for the green tripe. :lol3:

 

[ritz]

I feed around .20 oz of liver and .25 oz of kidney a day.  Ritz especially likes kidney.

The organs, especially liver, are easier to cut into tiny amounts if partially frozen. 

I forget--is tripe a protein? organ?

 

[ldg]

Tripe isn't an organ, it's the stomach lining of a cow. It has a Ca ratio of 1:1 and is full of probiotics - and heaps of other stuff. Very packed with nutrition. The spleen is often attached. That's a secreting organ.

 

[princessesme]

Laurie - do you feed the tripe like muscle meat then? I think I will have to Google what a spleen looks like because I have no idea! I love tripe, myself, and I know Walmart sells it for dirt cheap and a gigantic amount!

 

[ldg]

Well, the tripe for raw pet food is different than the tripe for people. What Walmart sells is bleached tripe. This is "green" tripe. Green tripe isn't sold for human consumption - I don't think you'd ever find it in a grocery store. And I don't know how I feed it - I've just gotten my first order of it, and I think it's ground with the spleen... I'll be feeding it like a meat meal, I think. :lol3: I don't know how much spleen is in it. I just realized - I ordered the ground. I meant to order the strips.

This is what I got - and while it arrived Friday, I haven't dethawed it yet. Apparently it has a very powerful odor. :lol3: https://www.hare-today.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_42&products_id=214

This is what I should have ordered: https://www.hare-today.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_42&products_id=47 This one they'd have to chew...

Well, let's see if they'll eat if first. :lol3:

Here's info on green tripe: http://www.truecarnivores.com/nutrition/green-tripe/

 

[Willowy]

Laurie---the Hare Today Tripe is chunky, not finely ground. Has a weird texture, I think it's chewy enough. It's hard to portion. . .doesn't cut or scoop well. You kind of have to pull it apart . The odor isn't too bad, smells like a stockyard but not very strong. I bought it for the dogs but the cats went wild for it. Hope your kitties like it too!

 

[carolina]

Tripe isn't an organ, it's the stomach lining of a cow. It has a Ca ratio of 1:1 and is full of probiotics - and heaps of other stuff. Very packed with nutrition. The spleen is often attached. That's a secreting organ.

Laurie, question: if the ratio is 1:1, when feeding it as a meal, this is a perfectly balanced meat, correct? No need to add any Ca to it? :dk:

 

[ldg]

I'm not going to. When I try it, I'll let you know how it goes. But... if you couldn't stand kidney smell, you might not want to try this. :lol3: Again, I'll report back.

 

[ritz]

Thanks LDG.  I'm always looking for different types of organs.

And I know now not to get honecomb tripe.  It was so bad, my ferals wouldn't even touch it.

 

[carolina]

I'm not going to. When I try it, I'll let you know how it goes. But... if you couldn't stand kidney smell, you might not want to try this. :lol3: Again, I'll report back.

Ok, thanks for the tip - don't feel like risking all over the place atm :lol3::lol3::lol3:
Let me know how it goes and how bad it really is!