PHEW!! I was really worried about him when you posted yesterday- at least it isn't as bad
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Munchie's Many Issues
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I forgot to mention, I got the further information from the specialist.
He has this:
He has this:
His measurements the IVS Diameter should be between 3.0-5.0 his was 10.1
I'm so sorry to hear about the diagnosis. I don't know much about HCM, but I will, of course, offer my support and vibes.
How are things going today? Is Munchie eating okay?
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Munchie is doing better. Although he's starting to get snot back in his nose. We haven't been able to get the zithromycin yet (will get tues or weds). We may sedate and flush him out again. I have been doing some research and found a few things we are going to try to help his arthritis more (turmeric, microlactin). So that is good as well. Starting him on the duralactin/microlactin this morning. It says it can take up to 2 weeks to see a difference. He is eating like a champ, finishing every meal. We also will be starting him on the new heart med this week.
In the end, I've found very little keeps Murchie's chronic upper respiratory at bay. I do think that the damage in the nasal passages from his bad illness as a kitten just lets bacteria back in. I've actually found Baytril to be the most effective to use when Murchie's nose gets out of control, I tried Zithromax once with him, but still find Baytril to be more effective - not sure why. Good news is that Murchie is a real trooper and never lets his stuffiness affect his mood.
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That is exactly what the specialist said, that it stems from the kitten infections damaging things. She is having us do the zithromycin for 3 months. She seems to think that will kick down the infection. I am adding Microlactin and Lactoferrin to his ever growing list of supplements too, as well as Turmeric.
Is Munchie's liver in good shape? I only ask as in human research there is some information out there that Zithromax can sometimes hurt the liver, although no research has actually been done on cats. So long as Munchie's liver is fine at this point, then it should not matter anyhow - as I mentioned, there is no actual research for cats on this topic anyhow. But just thought that I would mention this so you can keep an eye on things just in case.
Turmeric and microlactin will definitely help out with the joints. I think zithromycin will help too, especially in a 3 month period.
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Yes the bloodwork (comprehensive/cbc/) he just had done was fine. I was not aware of that so I will have to look into Zithro affecting the liver.
Thank-you. He is not a fan of the turmeric so may have to figure out a different way to get it into him. He was coughing last night which I haven't heard him do in a long time (usually coughs due to asthma). So that is worrisome as well as starting to get congestion/snot back in his nose.
Keep doing better and eating all of those healthy and delicious supplements, Munchie- we will keep you in our highest hopes and prayers!
Turmeric and microlactin will definitely help out with the joints. I think zithromycin will help too, especially in a 3 month period.
It was so long ago, but I think that we may have tried flushing Murchie once, and it was a waste of time as everything came back so quickly. I am fortunate that Murchie still is super upbeat his entire life despite the snotty nose - is Munchie the same as in is he still a cheery guy despite the nose issues?
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He is definitely cheery. He literally purrs constantly. The funny thing is he doesn't act sick (which is why when the vet hinted at Euthanasia, I didn't even give it a second thought, he is happy and eats good and seems to enjoy life), just has a gunky nose and sneezes, sometimes he's a little wheezy but he also has asthma. Since he was cleaned out his purr is 100x louder, he sounds like a freaking freight train he is SO LOUD lol! His nose is no where as bad as it was last week when he had his ultrasound. He's just starting to get a little crustiness around the edges. He's not as congested, and purring REALLY loud nowadays lol.
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I would do a little more research on turmeric, as well, especially if Munchie doesn't like it. I've read that there is a small percentage of curcumin (the main active ingredient) in turmeric and that it is poorly absorbed in the GI tract. In addition, it can cause digestive upset related to acid indigestion. I can totally get that. It doesn't take much for me to leave the neighborhood Indian restaurant in need of an antacid.
Yes, I have read the benefits of turmeric/curcumin, too, but I hesitated using it for Sebastian given the reasons I mentioned.
I'm sorry I don't have any references right now. If you want them, I will have to find and post them later.
Continued vibes for Munchie!
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Sorry to hear about the recent diagnosis. I have heard of this condition before, but not in cats. One of the symptoms is a shortness of breath, but from you have mentioned, Munchie doesn't seem to be experiencing this, which is good. Hopefully he can remain asymptomatic for awhile yet to come!
I am inclined to agree about the Tumeric. It's a wonderful, healthy thing for humans but might not be best for pets, especially if there is already some digestive issues. Plus there can be the potential for interactions between the tumeric and certain medications.
Here is a page that provides some information : http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/lifestyle-guide-11/supplement-guide-turmeric
Glad to hear that Munchie is feeling so well, and is a happy cat despite his condition.
I am inclined to agree about the Tumeric. It's a wonderful, healthy thing for humans but might not be best for pets, especially if there is already some digestive issues. Plus there can be the potential for interactions between the tumeric and certain medications.
Here is a page that provides some information : http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/lifestyle-guide-11/supplement-guide-turmeric
Glad to hear that Munchie is feeling so well, and is a happy cat despite his condition.
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I think we have decided against the turmeric as I can't even get them to eat it with just a smidge of it in their food. We are going to probably add Gabapentin for both of them. I have been giving Munchie some Duralactin (microlactin) for the past few days and I think it is already helping him as he was standing on his haunches and tipping over my garbage can earlier today lol. He seems to be feeling a little better too.
Hmm...thinking I might try the Duralactin for Boo for his arthritis and disc degeneration. Glad to hear it seems to be helping. I don't blame Munchie for not eating the turmeric. I think many people who give that as a supplement have to pill it.
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So we are also going to add the Hyaluronic Acid to their regimen, does any body know the dose for cats? I can't find anything definitive about it. Munchie got started on Adequan today. We should have his zithromax tomorrow. He's still on a high dose of Ciprofloxacin but his wheezies and slight stuffiness are coming back.
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Thank-you yes that helps.
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So BIG improvements on the Munchie front. He doesn't seem to be limping as badly (I think it's the Duralactin/Microlactin) and he is trying to climb in soda boxes which is something he hasn't done in a long long time. He is able to jump on furniture a lot easier. He is still eating the raw with gusto. So I am very happy about that. I think the combo of things is really helping. I really think the longer he is off of grains/carbs the better he will do.
