You are certainly entitled to your opinion,but to me putting a cat ourdoors IS a death sentence. That is how I feel and like I said before,if I can change ONE persons mind I will feel satisfied. Maybe it is different where you live but: and I will only say this ONE MORE TIME........It is illegal here to let cats roam .
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Indoor Kitties
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I would never advise going against the law in your area. For you, its obviously not an option anyways. Remember, that accidents can happen inside too. Cats get trapped in dryers, or chew through electrical cords,injured by other household pets and can be injured in a zillion other ways. There are dangers everywhere. Another thing to consider is that cats began as wild creatures, living outside.They are often very happy, and healthy in an outdoor situation. I'm in no way trying to change anyones mind on this subject, its up to them what they decide is best for their pets. I just feel that there should be equal representation for both sides. Also, as I already stated in an earlier post, four of my cats are inside kitties, so i would never knock anyone who makes the same decision for their pets. Just realize that you absolutely can be a responsible pet owner and let your cats outside (other than when the law dictates you can't of course)
I really do think cats are much safer in the house, but I think I have said it before, I do know of cases where they had to be outdoors or face euthansia. There are also those who care for cats who have been dumped and are now feral/semi feral. I would much rather see 25 cats get vet care and food living on a farm than in the shelters on death row.
This has been one of the larger debates with cat care for as long as I can remember. Personally I think the best option is that if you can, build an outdoor enclosure for you babies and they can have the best of both worlds.
This has been one of the larger debates with cat care for as long as I can remember. Personally I think the best option is that if you can, build an outdoor enclosure for you babies and they can have the best of both worlds.
Judy,
I've been reading this Thread and it appears that you are indeed trying to change the way people think...
I think that it will enlighten you to realize that you're not responsible, nor powerful enough to do that. It will be up to that person and I'm sure they're will be more of a reason than for you to be a catalyst in their decision.
I'm not trying to flame you Judy; however, to continue pushing your beliefs on pet owners with in a different situation than yours, in my humble opinion, will have the opposite affect of what you're hoping for.
I do hope that everyone in your area follows the law. That each and everyone in the world would do the right thing by their animal. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. Here we are on a The CatSite discussing a subject that perhaps would be better if taken to a school, a media source or any other community meeting that would benefit this information/education. You don't have to convince us about the proper care for our animals...We love cats here
Catarina
I've been reading this Thread and it appears that you are indeed trying to change the way people think...
I think that it will enlighten you to realize that you're not responsible, nor powerful enough to do that. It will be up to that person and I'm sure they're will be more of a reason than for you to be a catalyst in their decision.
I'm not trying to flame you Judy; however, to continue pushing your beliefs on pet owners with in a different situation than yours, in my humble opinion, will have the opposite affect of what you're hoping for.
I do hope that everyone in your area follows the law. That each and everyone in the world would do the right thing by their animal. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. Here we are on a The CatSite discussing a subject that perhaps would be better if taken to a school, a media source or any other community meeting that would benefit this information/education. You don't have to convince us about the proper care for our animals...We love cats here
Catarina
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Well stated, Cat. We don't always agree around here, but we do share a love for our animals.
My 5 year-old cat was intended to be an indoor cat when the pest control company at my apt. complex let him out one day. From then on, he was indoor/outdoor, literally coming to the door every 20 minutes to check in.
When I moved 2 years later, he began to go out again after 8 weeks in the new place. It was a very large complex, and he got lost. He was missing for 2 weeks. I, thankfully, got him back. He has been an indoor guy ever since. My 2 year-old has always been indoors, although my new house has a 12 square foot outdoor atrium. It is open at the roof, and there is no way they can get out. It's the primary reason I bought the house. I wouldn't risk my boys again, but Squirt did love his outside time while he had it.
One of my very dear friends has an indoor/outdoor cat. He is 20 years old.
In closing, each of us has to weigh this decision in his own circumstances.
My 5 year-old cat was intended to be an indoor cat when the pest control company at my apt. complex let him out one day. From then on, he was indoor/outdoor, literally coming to the door every 20 minutes to check in.
When I moved 2 years later, he began to go out again after 8 weeks in the new place. It was a very large complex, and he got lost. He was missing for 2 weeks. I, thankfully, got him back. He has been an indoor guy ever since. My 2 year-old has always been indoors, although my new house has a 12 square foot outdoor atrium. It is open at the roof, and there is no way they can get out. It's the primary reason I bought the house. I wouldn't risk my boys again, but Squirt did love his outside time while he had it.
One of my very dear friends has an indoor/outdoor cat. He is 20 years old.
In closing, each of us has to weigh this decision in his own circumstances.
I am speaking from my heart AND not trying to change the way everyone handles their cats. It is MY humble opinion and like I said before convincing one person would be fine with me and hey if I can't convince anyone so be it !!! The world is full of people with different opinions and wouldn't it be sad if everyone thought the same way? I just think the arguements for indoor cats is stronger,but heck you don't have to take my head off.I am not on some sort of "Power trip" trying to rule the world and if you wish to call it pushing my beliefs then that is your humble opinion. And like I said before I thank everyone who takes care of cats,indoor or out. One reason I feel so strongly about cats being kept indoors is written in one of my previous posts as I will never forget Spooky and the fact that he only lived for 1 and a half years because he was let outside. It left me feeling bitter,guilty and heartbroken. So flame me all you want and I do hope that everyone who owns a cat loves it and gives it the proper care kitty deserves.
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i seemed to have caused quite an argument!
thank you all for your views and comments....i have decided to keep Jasper in now...despite me wanting to give him his freedom...i feel that finding a new home (with us) was probably his second chance and i want him to have a live of comfort and cuddles
having had such a bad start (
he seems happy enuff..with a little attention and plenty of catnip!
thank you all for your views and comments....i have decided to keep Jasper in now...despite me wanting to give him his freedom...i feel that finding a new home (with us) was probably his second chance and i want him to have a live of comfort and cuddles
(he seems happy enuff..with a little attention and plenty of catnip!
Judy,
Let's look at what I stated. First of all, I never verbally attacked you or took your head off; I also never suggested you were on a power trip or trying to rule the world. I merely stated that you are not that powerful to change someone's mind. No one can be that powerful. There's only one that that's powerful... I hope you can comprehend this in the manner in which I am presenting this to you; as you conceive this in an attack, it was not be taken that way.
You are obviously passionate about your beliefs, which is wonderful! However; you are constantly missing the point that seems to be presented to you, not just by me, but the other members here.
Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong, I do hate to speak for anyone but myself.
Usually a decision is made upon the individual's situation; and since not all of are not in the same situation; naturally not all of our decisions will be the same. Also remember, that nothing is life is guaranteed;
Honestly, Sandie has mentioned a great way to have best of both worlds...Deb25 even bought a home that would accomodate her cats..inside and out! :laughing2..
So, I do hope this clears up any misunderstanding; I am far from a tyrrant here at this site...:laughing2 Trust me, far from it!
Have you thought about teaching? Possibly volunteering lectures in your community since there are such strict laws in your area. There's plenty of people that could use pet education and in my opinion, since you have great conviction, I bet the animal organizations would probably be delighted to have you.
Peace,
Catarina
Caterina,Yes I admit I did feel SLIGHTLY attacked ,but that's O.K. with me. My views are not the same as yours and I never tried to do anything but state my opinion. There is no "point" that I have been missing because ,to me, letting a cat go outdoors is just something I would not do. I understand the fact that everyone here has different ideas on how to raise their cats and if they wish to let them out that is their right. I just hope and pray that all cats that are let outside come home safe and sound . I enjoy this web site and I do believe that this discussion should now be closed. It was fun while it lasted and I never felt that it was an arguement,just a bit of "friendly discussion". We could go back and forth for years on this subject,but what good would it do
We all love our cats and I,for one, would do whatever it takes to keep my wonderful cats healthy,safe and free from harm. I am sure any cat owner would do the same,well at least the gals here, as I know many people who do not like cats. My husbands friend has a bumper sticker that reads "Yes,I like cats,they taste like chicken".And he said if he sees them on the road he AIMS for them !!! That really gets me mad
but there is no convincing him otherwise and believe me I have tried. I have a very strong conviction when it comes to any animal getting hurt and I hate it when deer hunting season starts as we have many friends who hunt. I just tell them I do not want to here their hunting stories and they respect my wishes. So,call me a old softy but since Sept.11th I just want all the world,animals included, to live in an untroubled and peaceful world. Hope you and everyone here have a WONDERFUL HOLIDAY SEASON and may God bless us all and keep us safe.:rainbow:
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For your post and your understanding.
I am afraid you would visiting me in jail if I lived in your area, as I feed feral colonies on a daily basis. You would have to bake me a cake with a file in it, so I could escape! Just so you know, once I gain the trust of the colony, they are captured up and neutered or spayed and re-released so the colony doesn't inbreed. Alley Cat Allies is instrumental in doing this also all over the United States. They are also working to change the laws that say it is illegal to feed feral cats, and they work tirelessly to try and achieve a peaceful solution for the feral cat population.
You sound like a very caring cat-owner and no one can fault you for that. Wishing you a Peaceful Holiday Season, from my house to yours-----
I am afraid you would visiting me in jail if I lived in your area, as I feed feral colonies on a daily basis. You would have to bake me a cake with a file in it, so I could escape! Just so you know, once I gain the trust of the colony, they are captured up and neutered or spayed and re-released so the colony doesn't inbreed. Alley Cat Allies is instrumental in doing this also all over the United States. They are also working to change the laws that say it is illegal to feed feral cats, and they work tirelessly to try and achieve a peaceful solution for the feral cat population.
You sound like a very caring cat-owner and no one can fault you for that. Wishing you a Peaceful Holiday Season, from my house to yours-----
Hi Judy :angel2:
You're right, enough's enough :lovegrin! However, I would like to kick that guys butt too!
Love & Peace,
Catarina
