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hopehacker · Jul 14, 2006

Originally Posted by kittyluver27

I dont usually download stuff. Does it cost money to download photoshop? Is there anything that you can download similar to that, that's free?

I didn't download Photoshop either. I have the actual program on CD rom. I believe you can download a temporary trial version of Photoshop Elements. It's not the full Photoshop, but I gather it's pretty close. There is a free program called The Gimp that you can download. I have tried it. I think it's harder to work with than Photoshop, myself, but it's a 100 percent free, and it's not a trial version. Photoshop is a very expensive program. Costs $700. I think Photoshop Elements is about $100 or maybe even less.

kittyluver27 · Jul 14, 2006

Originally Posted by HopeHacker

I didn't download Photoshop either. I have the actual program on CD rom. I believe you can download a temporary trial version of Photoshop Elements. It's not the full Photoshop, but I gather it's pretty close. There is a free program called The Gimp that you can download. I have tried it. I think it's harder to work with than Photoshop, myself, but it's a 100 percent free, and it's not a trial version. Photoshop is a very expensive program. Costs $700. I think Photoshop Elements is about $100 or maybe even less.

Whats the Gimp?? what website do you go to??

hopehacker · Jul 14, 2006

Originally Posted by kittyluver27

Whats the Gimp?? what website do you go to??

http://www.gimp.org/

kittyluver27 · Jul 14, 2006

Ok i downloaded it and its not working. It says GTK Select Language, but its not the program. I downloaded the right one for my computer but i dont know why its not working.

hopehacker · Jul 14, 2006

Originally Posted by kittyluver27

Ok i downloaded it and its not working. It says GTK Select Language, but its not the program. I downloaded the right one for my computer but i dont know why its not working.

We really shouldn't be using this thread for this, but I'll try to help as best I can. With The Gimp you not only download the exe program, but you have to download some other little file, that helps it work. I did this a long time ago, because I was interested in seeing what The Gimp had to offer. Now I don't remember everything, but I do know that it is all explained in their downloads section. It tells you exactly what you have to download

Like I said, The Gimp is NOT an easy program. It's for real computer geeks. I had a lot of trouble with it. I was able to create documents in it, but I just didn't like it, because it's so complicated, and I'm a pretty much seasoned Photoshop user. Just go back to the site, and read all the info. It will tell you everything you have to do, and what files you need to download.

OK, go here: http://www.gimp.org/downloads/install_help.html

Follow the instructions. It leads you to the place where you need to download the other file that is needed.

alaynna · Jul 16, 2006

I am going to the store later to buy a program....I want a photo program for me to start making my siggys.

Which program do you use or recommend for your siggys??? Thanks.

AbbysMom · Jul 16, 2006

I use Photoshop Elements. It is much cheaper than the full version of Photoshop, and I can turn out adequate sigs with it.

AbbysMom · Jul 16, 2006

I forgot to mention that it would be helpful to buy a book for whatever program you decide to buy. It can be VERY frustrating at first

alaynna · Jul 16, 2006

I have never heard of photoshop elements, but you make very nice sigs, so I am sure that its a good program!!

...but I will see if I can compare it with psp online, but I will let you guys know which one I choose.

Thanks Abbysmom!!

hopehacker · Jul 16, 2006

You can also buy a full version of Paint Shop Pro for about the same price as Elements. A lot of people love PSP. Personally, I like Photoshop, and I use Photoshop, the full version, but I'd probably go for Photoshop Elements if I were just starting out.

halfpint · Jul 16, 2006

Originally Posted by AbbysMom

I forgot to mention that it would be helpful to buy a book for whatever program you decide to buy. It can be VERY frustrating at first

Yeah I guess a book

Hope offered to help me when I get a minute, but one thing she told me in a PM last evening is that signature is just a document only smaller then you can add to it, actually that made me think different of it... Hopes very sweet to offer to help and I appericate it...

alaynna · Jul 16, 2006

Well I can't wait, because I use to design web pages and "banners" for peoples web pages but It was like 5 years ago and I forgot what program I had....it was probably a earlier version of psp....

I can't wait to get back into it!! Thanks everyone!

kluchetta · Jul 16, 2006

I have both PSP and PhotoShop. PSP is a lot easier to use, and I can get it to do almost everything, EXCEPT:

1) RGB to CMYK conversion very bad - garish colors (most people don't care about this, but I have to convert photos for print advertisement

and

2) I can't do inner/outer glow

If anyone uses PSP and wants to give me a tip, that would be cool!

alaynna · Jul 16, 2006

Well I bought Photoshop Elements...because that is all the walmart had and I didn't want to go anywhere else...so I will play with it tonight and see what i can do....Thanks!!

alaynna · Jul 16, 2006

Ok, I already have a question...with the photoshop elements:

Once you make your selection with the lasso tool how do you transfer the selection to the siggy that you are currently making?? I tried copy and past but that doesn't really work.

**Another thing...how do I convert it correctly so it doesn't show up a little blurry...the siggy I did below is a little blurry when I uploaded it to photobucket?? So is there a certain way to convert it?? Thanks in advance!

katkisses · Jul 16, 2006

Where do you guys get the colourful fonts? Or ones like the font used in kluchetta's sig? Those are awesome! I have been downloading fonts today, and I am addicted!!!!!

kittyluver27 · Jul 17, 2006

To HopeHacker: Oh thats ok. It was too much trouble for me anyway. If you had trouble with it, I'm certainly not going to even try to use it. I am so not a computer person. I rarely ever download stuff. Like Never I suppose. Lol But thanks for all your help. Sorry, but it sounds way too complicated for a person like me. I really do appreciate the help. Thanks, but what I will do is download the free trial version of photoshop! Is there a good website to download that on?

clixpix · Jul 17, 2006

Originally Posted by Alaynna

Ok, I already have a question...with the photoshop elements:

Once you make your selection with the lasso tool how do you transfer the selection to the siggy that you are currently making?? I tried copy and past but that doesn't really work.

**Another thing...how do I convert it correctly so it doesn't show up a little blurry...the siggy I did below is a little blurry when I uploaded it to photobucket?? So is there a certain way to convert it?? Thanks in advance!

I'll try to answer as best I can, but if I get it wrong, those who know better, feel free to correct me!

I had fits with the lasso tool at first. After the selection is made, you get the "crawling ants" line. Click the "move tool" button. Now you can drag and drop your selection onto another layer.

As to the blurriness question. Are you "flattening" your image at the end? When you are finished, click on "layers" on the top tool bar...on the drop down menu, choose "flatten image". This will merge all of the layers. Then you click "File" on the top tool bar...on the drop down menu, choose "save for web". On this page, you will see two images of your work. There is a slider bar on the right. Slide it to the right to increase the clarity & file size of your image. Under the pictures, you'll see the file side change as you slide. Sigs need to be less than 30K. I usually make them around 28K...for some reason, they sometimes "grow" a bit. Then you click "OK", and it will let you save it.

Is that explanation okay? Clear as mud?

alaynna · Jul 17, 2006

Originally Posted by clixpix

I'll try to answer as best I can, but if I get it wrong, those who know better, feel free to correct me!

I had fits with the lasso tool at first. After the selection is made, you get the "crawling ants" line. Click the "move tool" button. Now you can drag and drop your selection onto another layer.

As to the blurriness question. Are you "flattening" your image at the end? When you are finished, click on "layers" on the top tool bar...on the drop down menu, choose "flatten image". This will merge all of the layers. Then you click "File" on the top tool bar...on the drop down menu, choose "save for web". On this page, you will see two images of your work. There is a slider bar on the right. Slide it to the right to increase the clarity & file size of your image. Under the pictures, you'll see the file side change as you slide. Sigs need to be less than 30K. I usually make them around 28K...for some reason, they sometimes "grow" a bit. Then you click "OK", and it will let you save it.

Is that explanation okay? Clear as mud?

Thank you for your explanation....I will have to try it when I get home from work today. It was weird, when I uploaded the sig last night on my laptop it was showing way less thank 30k ....but when I got here to work (better dsl connection) the sig was showing over 50k??? I don't know why, but I can never seem to get the right amount of k's??

As to answer your question above....no I am not flattening the image, until now I wasn't sure how to do that, I tried playing around with all the tools, but I actually ended up cutting the pics of monkey on a different photo program, then I copied and pasted it over to the layer.

But thanks for your help, I can't wait to get home and try it!

AbbysMom · Jul 17, 2006

I agree with what Kelly said, and you do need to look into the "Save for Web" feature. The sig you have up now is oversized

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