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I am so sorry, but you have him safe. So long as he is still eating, and still taking his med in whipped cream, despite how it hurts you, he is safe, and I pray that with time, he will realize he can/should still trust you.
 

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Poor sweet Cleo, he's so cute. I will say a prayer for him and I very much hope you will be able to help him. Many good vibes going out to the both of you.
 

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Originally Posted by hissy

Well he is home but letting either one of us near him. He sees us and turns and runs.
The trust has been shattered, and I can only hope that it is temporary. I took my binoculars this morning and while he was at the feeder I looked at his eye and from what I could see it looks okay, not weepy or swollen or rolled back. I will just keep working with him slowly to be able to get closer, but this breaks my heart that he no longer trusts us.
I hope the loss of trust is temporary, too. At least now you can monitor the eye better than when he is under "his" house, and he is not in danger of another fight with the big tomcat. Poor Cleo. Prayers that he will feel better and remember your years of warm meals.

Would feliway help?
 
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I admit defeat.I have managed to sever the trust built over eleven years with Cleo. After his traumatic vet visit, his confinement for nine days to which he never stopped letting me know vocally how unhappy he was, and even after his drugging of Kitty Prozac didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t work. He has let me know that under no circumstances will he allow me near him again.

I am so sad, he is a noble animal and he and I used to have a system where I would walk up to him and go “Cleo fall over..†He would then drop to his belly and roll over for a good scratch and rub before going off on his way.

I just tried that outside with him, and he looked at me as if “Who are you kidding?†Hissed and ran off. I told his retreating back that he wins, I will stop trying to heal him, I will not bring him inside or back to the vet, and if this means he dies quicker than I am ready to accept, I will still respect his wishes to remain free.

His eye looks better, not great but better. I do not agree with the path he has chosen, but other than really manhandle him to get MY way there is little I can do, except accept that he truly is a free spirit and that is how he wants to exit this world-
 

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Oh Hissy I am so sorry, I just now saw this thread. I can't tell you how much of an inspiration you are to me and to so many people on this board. What a huge, wonderful heart you have. You and Cleo will be in my thoughts.
 

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I am sorry, I know the loss of that bond of trust must hurt. I will say a prayer that the eye stays stable now that it looks better, and that with time, despite what you think, he will begin to trust you again. I can hope.
 

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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

I am sorry, I know the loss of that bond of trust must hurt. I will say a prayer that the eye stays stable now that it looks better, and that with time, despite what you think, he will begin to trust you again. I can hope.
What Pat said, MA.
 

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Oh I'm so sorry to hear this. I can immagine how much it hurts. I hope it is temporary. At least he still comes for food, that could be a good sign I hope!
 

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Originally Posted by hissy

I admit defeat.I have managed to sever the trust built over eleven years with Cleo. After his traumatic vet visit, his confinement for nine days to which he never stopped letting me know vocally how unhappy he was, and even after his drugging of Kitty Prozac didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t work. He has let me know that under no circumstances will he allow me near him again.

I am so sad, he is a noble animal and he and I used to have a system where I would walk up to him and go “Cleo fall over..†He would then drop to his belly and roll over for a good scratch and rub before going off on his way.

I just tried that outside with him, and he looked at me as if “Who are you kidding?†Hissed and ran off. I told his retreating back that he wins, I will stop trying to heal him, I will not bring him inside or back to the vet, and if this means he dies quicker than I am ready to accept, I will still respect his wishes to remain free.

His eye looks better, not great but better. I do not agree with the path he has chosen, but other than really manhandle him to get MY way there is little I can do, except accept that he truly is a free spirit and that is how he wants to exit this world-
I totally trust your insight in this matter, Hissy. You are there with Cleo, and know his situation best. You can look at him, and know better what he can tolerate. I'm sorry he is not able to accept your care. Bless you for listening to Cleo with your heart even if it goes against what your mind says to do.

I do hope that the medical care he has received will be enough to allow him to overcome this injury. I hope he will heal, and be able to remember your relationship, and know that you are his friend. Enjoy your freedom, Cleo. You choose a very hard path, but I guess after 11 years on your own, you know that.
 

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I am so sorry for your heartache. I will keep your boy in my thoughts and prayers. I commend you for your unselfish respect of Cleo. You honor his spirit and his wishes and I think that speaks volumes. I have learned so much form you tonight. Thank you
 
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Well he allowed me to pick him up tonight.
I didn't do anything but check his eye. I see a ripple in his eye, but no drainage, no redness, swelling or heat. I gave him a hug and told him I was sorry I had caused him so much anguish and he licked my chin and asked to get down. I fed him and let him be.
 

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Originally Posted by hissy

Well he allowed me to pick him up tonight.
I didn't do anything but check his eye. I see a ripple in his eye, but no drainage, no redness, swelling or heat. I gave him a hug and told him I was sorry I had caused him so much anguish and he licked my chin and asked to get down. I fed him and let him be.
He is going to trust you again
and I'd dare say he cares for you as much as he is going to care for any human. I'm glad the eye looks so good overall.
 

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Originally Posted by hissy

Well he allowed me to pick him up tonight.
I didn't do anything
Mary Anne, ever think you never lost Cleo's trust? He was injured, in pain and probably scared. I think we will never truly understand how other species think or how they feel about people especially when it comes to survival.
Anyway, this is good news!
 

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Originally Posted by yayi

Mary Anne, ever think you never lost Cleo's trust? He was injured, in pain and probably scared. I think we will never truly understand how other species think or how they feel about people especially when it comes to survival.
Anyway, this is good news!
It is wonderful news!!

I think Yayi is right MA: you never really lost Cleo's trust -- he just needed to make a very strong statement about his need for freedom. Your respect for his wishes probably just strengthens the bond he has with you. Glad he was willing to "kiss and makeup"
 

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I'm so happy for you Hissy. Cleo knows a good thing when he sees it.
He's just "got to me" as they say! Good luck with'
the eye treatment. I think he is in the process of getting back
to his normal self. He must be feeling a lot better now!
 
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Well Cleo has been attacked again.
So has Bailey so both barn cats are now confined to the porch and so far it is going well. They still get plenty of open spaces and cold air, but now they can't get out, nor can the feral get them. Mike and I finished it today, and looked at each other and just shook our heads. The things we do for our animals

Take a look we used plastic trellis so the cats can still get the air they seem to need- and yes, there is a 7 foot door so we can still get outside

 
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