Performatrin Ultra?

Hi,
I recently made the switch from Performatrin to Performatrin Ultra....

I think the ingredients are better than what I eat myself.

Is anyone else using the Ultra kind and if so, do you notice a difference in coat right away? I swear Lovey is ten times glossier and shinier over even a few days though I don't think that much of a change is possible that quickly!!
Rocky's coat seems the same...

Here is the link to the ingredients:
http://www.performatrinultra.com/cat/cdi_chicken.htm

There are actually herbs added to this food as well..Dandelion root, sage, basil. etc...

Wow....

Honestly, I was suprised when Pet Valu came out with Ultra. I mean the regular performatrin is garbage, and the Ultra is pretty much on the same playing field as other super-premium foods we reccomend. There's such a dramatic difference between the two, it's shocking! lol

I havn't fed it myself, but I'm working on getting my parents to switch. They're feeding regular performatrin right now, and I've been having a heck of a time convincing them that it's no good... I'm glad you're kitties are liking it. I'm sure you'll see more of an improvement from now on

What would the difference in grade be between the Regular Performatrin and the Ultra?
I was also surprised when I looked more closely at the ingredients comparatively.

I thought the Regular was a Premium food. So, what grade is the Ultra classified as?
Is it super-premium?

Yes, the boys liked it right away. No complaints. It doesn't smell too bad either.

We still use the Wet Performatrin but that honestly looks a bit like real people food with pieces of rice and even carrots you can see...weird..

Though, the wet Performatin is a bit pricey at a buck a can..so I can't feed it all the time.

I find a lot of foods claim to be "premium" when they're really just corn and by-products in a bag. Regular Performatrin is pretty much equivalent to Cat Chow. They're not good foods at all. The Ultra is more comparable to what's been labled as "super-premium", things like Natural Balance, Wellness, Innova, etc.

The wet Performatrin isn't really very good either, but if it's all you can afford, it's better than no wet food at all, so I'm not in any position to tell you otherwise

Honestly, you made a good choice switching over and I'm sure your kitties will thank you for it!

we looked at that recently when switching brands. Decided on Natural Balance though, it's slightly cheaper and they look just as good as each other. Now, I'm not an expert or anything, but I couldn't find anything bad about the Ultra. Chester has the glossiest coat I've ever seen on a tabby cat and I completely attribute it to feeding him good food since I adopted him a few months ago.
I started seeing a difference in a few weeks. Give it a bit of time, but you should see a difference.

I only feed Performatrin. I've been told by vets that it is one of the best foods available.

It seems to really come down to each person's personal choice when it comes to cat food.

Originally Posted by Yosemite

It seems to really come down to each person's personal choice when it comes to cat food.

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I agree, but ask people to make it an educated choice. It's one thing to take a vets advice into consideration, and another to follow it blindly, without learning about what it is you're feeding your animals. I'm of the mind that vets actually focus very little of their time on nutrition, and really aren't the experts to be listening to in that regard. I trust most vets fully when it comes to illness and injury, but I seriously doubt a vet that tells me a food laden with corn, wheat and by-products is really the best nutrition for a carnivore. It just doesn't make any sence. I encourage EVERY pet owner to read, to learn about pet food, what goes into it, what should and shoudn't be found on an ingredients list, and then make their decisions from that, possibly with some guidance from a veterinarian if you see fit, but I know many who have taught THEIR vet a thing or two about nutrition, and the vet fully appreciated, or at least was open to, the information.

I just bought some Life Stages Performatrin (I'm guessing that's "regular'?) wet food, though I haven't tried it yet. What makes it not good? It sounds good since there are no meat by-products or wheat gluten. I'm trying to find a decent brand at a reasonable price for my two cats. It was CAN$2.00 for a 13oz can. Brands like Wellness are too expensive for my budget. Opinions?

IMHO it is a premium food ... but with four grains and two additional grain likes some just premiums not ultras are better and usually cheaper.... HERBS IMHO should be used under VET supervision , as there medicinal properties need to be monitored ....

as for wet food ask about case discounts ... this saved me 1 and half 13oz cans price by getting 12 .... IMHO good wet food can be had in all price ranges unfortunately some of the less expensive ones do not have big cans for additional savings...

Do you know how to do a search on site ??? try putting in premium canned food you'll get lots of info from varying opinions

MOST on here will tell you avoid things like animal by products ( ie meat and chicken by products are common), meat or organs that are unnamed like meat meal or liver , corn ( IMHO a little in a dry is fine as it aid s in UTI health but NOR a main ingredient), excessive grains ( IMHO 1 meat source to one grain is good ( a food with two meats and four grains is a 1 to 2 ratio for example... chicken and rice only would be 1 to 1 ), chemical preservatives ( ie BHT , BHA and ethoxaquin ) , artificial colors ( includes things like red iron oxide and yellow #5

Yes, I do know how to search. That's how I found this thread. I don't see any grain products on the ingredients list. Are you referring to the kibbles? I do find it odd when they use a lot of vegetables and herbs in cat food, but all in all it seems like a reasonable ingredients list for the price, which is why I was surprised when posters were saying it wasn't good. I'm not suggesting it's the best food out there, but again, it's also about affordability. Thanks for the feedback.

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...t=performatrin

Lots of info in the above thread, where Sharky was kind enough to analyze many different foods for me, including performatrin.

Even the normal Performatrin is a better food than "cat chow". Compare it to brands like Whiskas and you can see the difference (check the above thread to see what I mean).

I feed Performatrin, Performatrin Ultra, and a couple other varieties of WET food.

Some info on the Performatrin wet:
http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...light=wet+food

Dry food: Taste of the Wild (better food, ironically cheaper than some of the lesser quality foods) and Chicken Soup.

Thanks Snake_Lady. I've read through those threads already, but I'm still confused why this brand is perceived as not very good. Perhaps I should rephrase my question. I wasn't asking what to look out for in wet food (I've done research on the grain/by-products/etc. stuff), but why this specific brand was looked on negatively given its list of ingredients. Again, I'm referring to the WET food only.

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Thanks Snake_Lady. I've read through those threads already, but I'm still confused why this brand is perceived as not very good. Perhaps I should rephrase my question. I wasn't asking what to look out for in wet food (I've done research on the grain/by-products/etc. stuff), but why this specific brand was looked on negatively given its list of ingredients. Again, I'm referring to the WET food only.

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Ah gotcha, well personally, I think its a pretty good food

Sharky analyzed it here:

Originally Posted by sharky

Any input would be great. Here is the info:

INGREDIENTS: chicken, chicken broththe only ??? is what other than broth is in this ... it could contain msg or similiar ingrediants it is COMMON IN premium foods, chicken liver, egg product, guar gumsome dont like this thou it too is a common ingrediant I would prefer not so high up, menahden fish oil, skim milkWHY as many are dairy sensitive , tricalcium phosphate, dried kelp, carrageenan, potassium chlorise, taurine, oregano, inulin, parsley, iron amino acid chelate, rosemary, sage, zinc amino acid chelate, yucca schidigera extract, vitamin e supplement, choline chloride, cobalt amino acid chelate, copper amino acid chelate, manganese amino acid chelate, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, niacin, sodium selenite, d-calcium pantothenate, vitamin d3 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, vitamin a supplement, potassium iodide, vitamin b12 supplement, biotin.

CALORIE CONTENT: 1500 kcal/Kg 561 kcal/can (13.2 oz)

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
Crude Protein: 11.0% MIN
Crude Fat: 7.0% MIN
Crude Fibre: 1.0% MAX
Moisture: 78% MAX
Ash: 2.5% MAX
Calcium: 0.25% MIN
Phosphorus: 0.20% MIN
Magnesium: 0.03% MAX
Taurine: 0;08% MIN

Omega 6 Fatty Acids: 0.8% MIN
Omega 3 Fatty Acids: 0.08% MIN

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How to read her color coding : http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=140038

IMHO It was only one poster that thought it was garbage.....the rest of the consensus said it is a good food, not a great one, but pretty good. The original post was made in 2005, possibly the ingreds have changed? I dunno.

The above nutritional info is for the kitten. I have the normal adult chicken flavour. Which has the same ingreds except no skim milk and the nutritional values are slightly lower, which I would expect for an adult food.

Based on what I've learned lately, I think its a good food.

Thanks again I thought the skim milk was weird too, but I thought I'd give it a try for now since they're still kittens and then try the adult version. It looks like the ingredients are the same still. I appreciate the feedback.

Does anyone here feed the Performatrin Ultra canned?

Kizzy loves it, and I feed him 1/3 a large can a day... However, he started getting diarrhea from it

Has anyone else found that the Ultra canned caused loose stool?

I haven't tried it yet, but I intend to, so I'll let you know if they get any adverse symptoms. So far so good with the regular stuff

Originally Posted by bbleho

I haven't tried it yet, but I intend to, so I'll let you know if they get any adverse symptoms. So far so good with the regular stuff

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Thx.

I wasn't sure before, because I was changing his dry food, and he was on antibiotics so any softer stools could have been any of the above. But this last time, sure enough after the 3 feeds of it, he had loose stool.

I was able to refund it and get the normal Performatrin, which doesn't seem to have the same effect and he finally decided he would eat the pate type food, although he loves the Ultra.

Hmm, that's interesting. I'm guessing it's one of the ingredients that's not in the regular version. What flavours have you been feeding? I've read about beef causing problems for some cats, though I can't tell if my cats are sensitive. They had diarrhea for a while, but it was likely the quick changes in dry food and mixing up different brands of wet. I would like to try different flavours of the same brand though. Hopefully they will tolerate it.

Originally Posted by bbleho

Hmm, that's interesting. I'm guessing it's one of the ingredients that's not in the regular version. What flavours have you been feeding? I've read about beef causing problems for some cats, though I can't tell if my cats are sensitive. They had diarrhea for a while, but it was likely the quick changes in dry food and mixing up different brands of wet. I would like to try different flavours of the same brand though. Hopefully they will tolerate it.

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I would bet he didn't like all the fruits and veggies Which makes sense, as I don't think I've ever seen a cat munching on apples and carrots LOL.

The normal Performatrin, is a pretty decent food IMHO, so I'm going to stick with that as a staple and try a couple other non-holistic ones.

He didn't have a poo issue when I fed him Friskies.... but of course had one to the most expensive food I've boughten him LOL.

Haha yeah the only time I've heard of a cat voluntarily eating vegetables was a poor starved feral so desperate for food that she ate a piece of broccoli. She's ok now though