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OK - here goes. We're adopting a daughter and she needs prayers.
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I'm the same way - it's after 1 a.m., and I'm getting worried, and don't want to go to bed till I hear the news. Luckily it's a holiday in southern Germany tomorrow.
I'm overwhelmed. What special people you must be to take on this enormous task. My every prayer and good wishes go out to you folks and especially Naomi. God bless all of you and I'll look forward to many updates.
That's what worries me. Are they out celebrating a negative result, or in shock because the test turned out positive?
Laurie, if anything has happened, let us know, we are all keeping our fingers crossed here. Naomi is in our prayers.
Oh my goodness, I just now found this thread...I couldn't stop reading it, until now that is...and I, too, am anxiously awaiting the results. God bless you for being so wonderful. I really hope and pray for nothing but good fortune and good times together as you start a family.
Hand in there, Naomi.
Hand in there, Naomi.
I just caught up with this.
OMG what extraordinary people you and Gary are!
Most people would walk away and be afraid of getting involved with a homeless person, not to mention heroin addict.
I was sitting here soaked up in my own problem at the moment and started reading this and could not stop.
I dated a guy for almost 3 months before he told me he was a heroin addict.
I don't know where my head was, and why I didn't see it sooner but he was a very good liar. His Dad was dying of cancer and he was apparently stealing his drugs from what I found out later. His Mother, at the funeral home when his Dad did finally pass away, accused me of being an "inabler" and I guess did not believe that I did not notice his addiction. I was no angel, and I was doing what everyone around me was. That was pot, crank, cocaine and also tried crack. I know I was out of hand at times, and was addicted to crank for at the very most 6 months. The guy I was seeing then sold it. I broke up with him and I was forced to get over it. It was very very hard. It was Christmastime 1996. I will never forget it! And NEVER allow myself to be in the situation again.
Why the confession? I don't know, I guess to get it off my chest and tell you I do understand.
Without people like you and Gary there would be no hope in the world. You say you are not angels, but I would have to disagree. I'm sure Naomi will agree also in the future if she doesn't already.
But here's the disclaimer....
It is a very dangerous risk to take, because if given the chance, she most likely WILL steal you blind and run. It is the addiction that has no consciounce (sp?), and I'm sure you know this. I would take those things of value that you do have out of the home before bringing her there. It takes away the temptation for her.
All in all I think you are 2 of the BEST people I have ever had the pleasure of talking to!!
OMG what extraordinary people you and Gary are!
Most people would walk away and be afraid of getting involved with a homeless person, not to mention heroin addict.
I was sitting here soaked up in my own problem at the moment and started reading this and could not stop.
I dated a guy for almost 3 months before he told me he was a heroin addict.
I don't know where my head was, and why I didn't see it sooner but he was a very good liar. His Dad was dying of cancer and he was apparently stealing his drugs from what I found out later. His Mother, at the funeral home when his Dad did finally pass away, accused me of being an "inabler" and I guess did not believe that I did not notice his addiction. I was no angel, and I was doing what everyone around me was. That was pot, crank, cocaine and also tried crack. I know I was out of hand at times, and was addicted to crank for at the very most 6 months. The guy I was seeing then sold it. I broke up with him and I was forced to get over it. It was very very hard. It was Christmastime 1996. I will never forget it! And NEVER allow myself to be in the situation again.
Why the confession? I don't know, I guess to get it off my chest and tell you I do understand.
Without people like you and Gary there would be no hope in the world. You say you are not angels, but I would have to disagree. I'm sure Naomi will agree also in the future if she doesn't already.
But here's the disclaimer....
It is a very dangerous risk to take, because if given the chance, she most likely WILL steal you blind and run. It is the addiction that has no consciounce (sp?), and I'm sure you know this. I would take those things of value that you do have out of the home before bringing her there. It takes away the temptation for her.
All in all I think you are 2 of the BEST people I have ever had the pleasure of talking to!!
I think they were staying over night close to the hospital.. I'm sure she'll tell us asap, guys.. I think the Aids test won't give results until the next day. at least they didn't used to
Lauri, more good vibes!!
Lauri, more good vibes!!
You three are in my prayers!
What you are doing for this girl is beyond what words can describe--you are truly wonderful and patient people!!
May you know that you are so wonderful for what you are doing no matter what the test results are.
What you are doing for this girl is beyond what words can describe--you are truly wonderful and patient people!!
May you know that you are so wonderful for what you are doing no matter what the test results are.
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SHE DOES NOT HAVE AIDS, SHE IS NOT H.I.V. POSITIVE - and she doesn't even show any signs of Hep-C (which she was diagnosed with in the past)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU -
How can Gary, Naomi and I thank you enough for all your incredible good will and good wishes?
Oh - when we hadn't heard from her by 10:00 last night, I told Gary that I thought she wasn't going to come if we let her get away with it - that she's just too scared to get the results. He agreed, and we were prepared to hit the car and roll into the City again. Which is, of course, what happened. At 1:30am she called to say she didn't think she was going to make the last bus out here, she'd just catch an early bus in the morning. Gary said, "Honey, the last bus left half an hour ago. dWe know you're really scared, and we know that on some level you really don't want the test results. But we're going to get this behind us so we can do what needs to be done, whatever that is. We all need to put this behind us. So we're leaving right now, we are driving into the city to pick you up, so this time you're going to tell us where to pick you up. It will take us no more than one hour, so just to be absolutely sure we are there waiting for you, where do you want to meet us at 3:00?" (3:00 am!) Go Dad Go!
We checked into the hotel at 5:30am, Naomi and I slept until 10:00, and we got it together and headed to the Docs. She was rigid like a stone, walking like a zombie, and staring off into never-never land. It snowed here - we were on time, and the Doctor was late! We had to wait for about 25 minutes, and each minute was complete excruciating agony. Doc waived us in - and we asked Naomi if she wanted us to be with her. She said no, she really wanted to do it alone, but she really, really appreciated our making her do it and being there for her (Gary managed not to cry until she disappeared into the examining room).
It seemed like they were in there forever - though it was only about two minutes before the door opened and Doc popped out for something. Gary and I walked over to the exam room door and peered in - and she had almost a smile - and I said to Gary - "I think she's smiling - " - and she lit up like the Fourth of July and said "I'm OK!" - We glanced at Doc - and she was beaming and gave us both thumbs up. We were whooping and crying and we were all hugging - it was insane. But she had more stuff to go over with her, so we got coffee for everyone, and they did take like half an hour.
When they were done, Doc came out and said - I don't know how you guys do it, but you've got an amazing kid on your hands.
And Naomi confirmed that she wants us to legally adopt her. And we went back to the hotel, discussed the creation of the Homeless Assistance Network for a couple of hours, and then passed out.
She feels like she's been given a new lease on life, and she doesn't want to waste it.
We told her let's do things one step at a time - we've got to get her healthy first, and as she's been through (state-run) detox several times, she knows that this news is really the hardest news of all, and she just went through the easiest part of it.
She kept thanking us for being there for her, over and over again. We keep telling her she does not have to keep thanking us - and it finally hit me.
I don't know who wrote or said this - or if I just made it up. I have no idea. But I told her that thanking us for "being there for her" is like thanking the sun for shining, or thanking the wind for blowing. So instead of continuing to tell her to stop thanking us, every time she thanked us, we were going to thank her for being.
Now - the hard part begins. We had to let her go again. She did not come out prepared to head straight to detox, though she said again, she is committed to doing this. I told Gary - I think she's really going to. He said - let's just see. When you're in the curve, it is so clear that you want to quit - but when you're coming down, it's a completely different story.
So anyway, we went out to dinner with her friends, and then we drove her back into the city. She says she's going to call the clinic Thursday or Friday to make the commitment to go in, and she's going to say good-bye to her friends - because, as she puts it, if she wants to do this right, she can't see them again for a long, long, time and that by the time she's probably ready to see them, she won't know how to be with them because all they really have in common is the high.
So - one day at a time. Oh thank God she's OK! She really is our Sunshine, and boy do I hope we can help that little beacon of light shine.
Thank you all so, so, so, so, so much!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU -
How can Gary, Naomi and I thank you enough for all your incredible good will and good wishes?
Oh - when we hadn't heard from her by 10:00 last night, I told Gary that I thought she wasn't going to come if we let her get away with it - that she's just too scared to get the results. He agreed, and we were prepared to hit the car and roll into the City again. Which is, of course, what happened. At 1:30am she called to say she didn't think she was going to make the last bus out here, she'd just catch an early bus in the morning. Gary said, "Honey, the last bus left half an hour ago. dWe know you're really scared, and we know that on some level you really don't want the test results. But we're going to get this behind us so we can do what needs to be done, whatever that is. We all need to put this behind us. So we're leaving right now, we are driving into the city to pick you up, so this time you're going to tell us where to pick you up. It will take us no more than one hour, so just to be absolutely sure we are there waiting for you, where do you want to meet us at 3:00?" (3:00 am!) Go Dad Go!
We checked into the hotel at 5:30am, Naomi and I slept until 10:00, and we got it together and headed to the Docs. She was rigid like a stone, walking like a zombie, and staring off into never-never land. It snowed here - we were on time, and the Doctor was late! We had to wait for about 25 minutes, and each minute was complete excruciating agony. Doc waived us in - and we asked Naomi if she wanted us to be with her. She said no, she really wanted to do it alone, but she really, really appreciated our making her do it and being there for her (Gary managed not to cry until she disappeared into the examining room).
It seemed like they were in there forever - though it was only about two minutes before the door opened and Doc popped out for something. Gary and I walked over to the exam room door and peered in - and she had almost a smile - and I said to Gary - "I think she's smiling - " - and she lit up like the Fourth of July and said "I'm OK!" - We glanced at Doc - and she was beaming and gave us both thumbs up. We were whooping and crying and we were all hugging - it was insane. But she had more stuff to go over with her, so we got coffee for everyone, and they did take like half an hour.
When they were done, Doc came out and said - I don't know how you guys do it, but you've got an amazing kid on your hands.
And Naomi confirmed that she wants us to legally adopt her. And we went back to the hotel, discussed the creation of the Homeless Assistance Network for a couple of hours, and then passed out.
She feels like she's been given a new lease on life, and she doesn't want to waste it.
We told her let's do things one step at a time - we've got to get her healthy first, and as she's been through (state-run) detox several times, she knows that this news is really the hardest news of all, and she just went through the easiest part of it.
She kept thanking us for being there for her, over and over again. We keep telling her she does not have to keep thanking us - and it finally hit me.
I don't know who wrote or said this - or if I just made it up. I have no idea. But I told her that thanking us for "being there for her" is like thanking the sun for shining, or thanking the wind for blowing. So instead of continuing to tell her to stop thanking us, every time she thanked us, we were going to thank her for being.
Now - the hard part begins. We had to let her go again. She did not come out prepared to head straight to detox, though she said again, she is committed to doing this. I told Gary - I think she's really going to. He said - let's just see. When you're in the curve, it is so clear that you want to quit - but when you're coming down, it's a completely different story.
So anyway, we went out to dinner with her friends, and then we drove her back into the city. She says she's going to call the clinic Thursday or Friday to make the commitment to go in, and she's going to say good-bye to her friends - because, as she puts it, if she wants to do this right, she can't see them again for a long, long, time and that by the time she's probably ready to see them, she won't know how to be with them because all they really have in common is the high.
So - one day at a time. Oh thank God she's OK! She really is our Sunshine, and boy do I hope we can help that little beacon of light shine.
Oh I said a prayer before your message opened up on my screen, it was a delight to see it was good news.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and Naomi, the world could use a few more kind souls like you
Congrats! This is great news!
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Isn't it?
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So - I just went back and caught up on the thread.
Turtlecat - you are SO right! Her teeth are horrible (not to mention many of them are chipped and broken). We already had that discussion with her, but brought it up again today. Thankfully (in a weird way) Gary is absolutely terrified of the dentist, so we've been though all of them around here and found a FABULOUS dentist.
Naomi said she didn't know if she was ready to deal with that fear yet, although is beginning to believe the extent of Gary's issues with the dentist (he still has an empty whole that needs a crown - the tooth was pulled a year ago). We offered that we'll make our appointments to see the dentist, and Gary will get his crown done - and she can be there with us to watch. If Dad can do it, she can do it, but we wouldn't make her do it the first trip. She has agreed to this.
(And she really is her father's daughter! She's already gotten the art of negotiation down cold, LOL!)
And Patty - thank you for sharing. You, too, are a brave, strong woman. I'm sorry for what you went through, but I'm so glad you're the better, stronger and wiser for it.
So - I just went back and caught up on the thread.
Turtlecat - you are SO right! Her teeth are horrible (not to mention many of them are chipped and broken). We already had that discussion with her, but brought it up again today. Thankfully (in a weird way) Gary is absolutely terrified of the dentist, so we've been though all of them around here and found a FABULOUS dentist.
Naomi said she didn't know if she was ready to deal with that fear yet, although is beginning to believe the extent of Gary's issues with the dentist (he still has an empty whole that needs a crown - the tooth was pulled a year ago). We offered that we'll make our appointments to see the dentist, and Gary will get his crown done - and she can be there with us to watch. If Dad can do it, she can do it, but we wouldn't make her do it the first trip. She has agreed to this.
(And she really is her father's daughter! She's already gotten the art of negotiation down cold, LOL!)
And Patty - thank you for sharing. You, too, are a brave, strong woman. I'm sorry for what you went through, but I'm so glad you're the better, stronger and wiser for it.
So glad to hear the news!
Laurie, that is SUCH wonderful news! To be sure, you've got a long road ahead of you, but the footing looks not bad, ya know...
Many, many
and good vibes for the three of you!! This is such a wonderful thing you are doing, and when you come out the other side, with a healthy, clean, functioning family unit -- as I believe you will -- the rewards will be beyond belief. You will be much in my prayers and thoughts, as you proceed on your journey. As it gets more intense, you may not be able to update us as frequently as WE would like, but we'll be salivating for every scrap of information.
What wonderful realism from this person who could so easily be burying her head in the sand!
Many, many
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