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Okay, since you haven't read the entire thread yet, here's the gist of it.  @Wendydelmo
has been fostering two cats, Naomi and Wynonna.  Naomi is Wynonna's mother, and when Wendy began fostering them (I think; I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) Wynonna had 4 newborn kittens with her (either that or they were born shortly after Wendy took them in).  Naomi, on the other hand, was very pregnant, as in HUGE!  There were some anxious days waiting for Naomi's kittens to be born, especially after Naomi apparently went into first stage labor which did not progress to second stage.  After that stopped, Naomi went into serious labor the next day, which was about three and a half weeks ago.  She gave birth to eight adorable kittens, with the entire thing "televised" via a live feed on Wendy's FaceBook page.  Wynonna served as Naomi's midwife during this process.  From the time labor came close, Naomi kept stealing Wynonna's kittens and attempting to nurse them.  After the birth, Wynonna started stealing Naomi's new kittens to nurse.  Wendy was doing her best to keep the newborns restricted to nursing from Naomi for the first couple of days so that they would all get the colostrum, which was difficult since the two mothers were cooperating with each other and not Wendy.  Once the first couple of days were past, they seriously went over to shared nursing responsibility, which is very good because eight kittens is really too many for one mother.  The four older kittens have been encouraged to begin eating some canned food mixed with KMR, which takes some of the weight off.  Oh yes, and about 36 hours after the eighth kitten was born, Wendy found a ninth kitten, dead and apparently licked clean by the two mothers in an attempt to revive it.  We don't know for sure, but we assume that the ninth was stillborn.  All twelve of the surviving kittens have been named for country and western singers.

And I still suggest that you read the whole thread to get a feeling for the anxiety and excitement all of this has caused, not to mention for all of the pictures and videos that Wendy has posted.

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Or even just to see Naomi pregnant with 8 babies. She was huge.
 
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So, I got another cat. I'm now up to 18. 


it's just for a night. lol. My good friend had this cat meowing and crying outside her house, she went outside to make sure the cat was okay- and the cat ran into the house.  The sweet kitty is darling- young, sweet, loving and obviously someone's loved kitty.  I posted messages on all the town facebook boards.  We have no open rooms so Dave and i moved our cars out of the garage and have the cat in there for now. I have to go to home school co-op before the shelter opens, so I will leave co-op early and  come home and take the cat to my shelter. 

She's beautiful. Someone will be missing her tonight!

I am officially the crazy cat lady. :)  I kinda like that. 
 

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With any luck, she has a micro chip and worried owners will be located tomorrow! She looks like a real sweetie. Poor baby must be scared and confused over being lost. You're a doll to take her in tonight!
 

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You'll find her owner. She's just lost, not abandoned. The same thing happened to me, and I found the owner after 4 days.
 
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oh yes. She's so sweet.  She's been loved. She has a collar and I'll bet she's chipped, too. If I didn't teach a creative writing class tomorrow, I'd drop Aedan off and go home to bring her to be checked. 

She is darling. Tiny and yup, scared, but she's safe for the night and fed, has a litter box and a nice warm bed.  She'll hopefully find her familys tomorrow! 
 

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It's okay to teach your class and then take her in. All will be well, though I feel for her family who must be upset.
 
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now I have a conundrum. 

Someone on FB message board told me it was their neighbors cat.  They leave the cat outside all the time.  She gave me an address.

There was no one home tonight.  They let the cat wander outside, apparently.   That's not safe for the cat.  BUT, the cat is well socialised, loving, well taken care of, etc. 

Do I bring it to the  shelter, or their home?

Not  every cat is meant to be an indoor cat.  but I don't know what to do about this
 

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Hmm. You need to talk to the owners of the cat, not just the neighbor, to see what's what. If it is really their cat, attempt to discern how she got out and got lost. I think the point of this whole thing is to return the cat to its owner. They have the right to let their cat out if they choose. However, maybe they'll think twice next time, since their cat could get hit by a car, or just simply never be returned by someone. How far away do they live?
 
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agreed.  I live in a rural area. They live in town, near  a main road. My friend said that the cat was sitting in the road, crying. :(

I will go to their house tomorrow and see what I find out.
 

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The cat got out and got lost - that's what concerns me. It doesn't seem to really know where it lives. So it really should be a house cat, but we can't make people do the right thing. They are lucky she hasn't been run over or stolen!

Hopefully, when you chat with them, they'll get the message. Don't take the cat with you initially. [emoji]128528[/emoji]
 
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Aw, poor thing. I think you should try to discern if she is getting necessary vet care as well. Is she spayed? Vaccinated? Treated for fleas? She's obviously happy to be inside.

And I agree, don't take the cat with you at first.
 

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You might want to get the cat scanned before you go talk to them, just to verify them as owners if there's a chip. You wouldn't want to hand the cat over if the info doesn't match up. Being chipped means the cat is probably vaccinated and spayed, but records can be checked. Otherwise, you can't withhold the cat because you disagree with how they care for it if it's not neglected or abused. It just got lost at this point.
 
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When you find the owners I think you should stress the cat WILL get run over if allowed out on a main road. This is neglect in my mind.
 
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Hmm. You need to talk to the owners of the cat, not just the neighbor, to see what's what. If it is really their cat, attempt to discern how she got out and got lost. I think the point of this whole thing is to return the cat to its owner. They have the right to let their cat out if they choose. However, maybe they'll think twice next time, since their cat could get hit by a car, or just simply never be returned by someone. How far away do they live?
The cat got out and got lost - that's what concerns me. It doesn't seem to really know where it lives. So it really should be a house cat, but we can't make people do the right thing. They are lucky she hasn't been run over or stolen!

Hopefully, when you chat with them, they'll get the message. Don't take the cat with you initially. [emoji]128528[/emoji]
Aw, poor thing. I think you should try to discern if she is getting necessary vet care as well. Is she spayed? Vaccinated? Treated for fleas? She's obviously happy to be inside.

And I agree, don't take the cat with you at first.
You might want to get the cat scanned before you go talk to them, just to verify them as owners if there's a chip. You wouldn't want to hand the cat over if the info doesn't match up. Being chipped means the cat is probably vaccinated and spayed, but records can be checked. Otherwise, you can't withhold the cat because you disagree with how they care for it if it's not neglected or abused. It just got lost at this point.
When you find the owners I think you should stress the cat WILL get run over if allowed out on a main road. This is neglect in my mind.
to all of the above.

However, while I agree that this is neglect, legally it isn't.  You absolutely need to find out whether these are the real owners before turning a cat over to them, and a report from someone you know only from FaceBook is not automatically a reliable source.  Whoever this cat's owners are, they obviously care about her.  The fact that she wanted to be inside says to me that this is likely where she normally resides, so I rather doubt that she's an outdoor kitty.  Accidents happen, and indoor only cats do get outside sometimes; this is why we put collars and tags on them.

Now that you've been given a heads up about who her owners might be you have a legal and moral obligation to check it out, and to return their cat to them if they are her owners.  However, a tactful reminder that the outside is a dangerous place for a cat is definitely in order.  Do not try to shame them or lecture them; that will just make them angry and stubborn.  If you've ever known a cat who was permanently lost due to being allowed outside, you might want to tell them the story.  There's a great deal of power in a true story, told by someone who was there.

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So, here is what I've done.

I let the cat spend the night in my garage, safe and sound. i went to class, then came home, got the cat, and went to the house . There was no one home, so I asked the the upstairs neighbor if he knew if they had a cat-. He didn't know of one, but I told him to please share the message if they were missing a cat, I brought it to the shelter. 

Then, I brought the cat to the shelter.   The opinion is that she's a non-spayed female, so they will hold her for a few days, then spay her,  and if no one comes, adopt her out as a stray.   it's the ONLY shelter in town, and it's no kill, so if you lose a pet, that is where you will look. 

I will go by their house again tonight or tomorrow to see if I can reach someone.  

I feel good about how I handled it.  The cat is safe, the owners, if they are the owners, will be able to go get her, and  hopefully, she'll be spayed right away.
 
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