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post #31 of 42
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If at all possible, and there are instructions for making this homemade and cheap on the site, getting a pet fountain. Back when I didn't have a cat fountain I noticed Ping hardly ever drank water out of the bowl of still water. But once I got the fountain he would drink regularly from that even with wet food in his diet. May be that is something you can look into.

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Do you mean pinch the scruff and see if it snaps back? Yes, I don't know if I'm doing it right though. The skin seems to go back quickly and "normally" but then again I have nothing to compare to.

I change the water twice daily in a big heavy glass bowl. It's about 40oz of water that gets poured out since no one touches it.
post #32 of 42
Both the snap and gum tests are accurate if you know what your doing... ie snap should start to go down Immediately not 5 seconds later..

Most cat Drink 4-6 oz a day on dry only .... less on wet and dry and some do not drink and are fine on just wet ... IMHO talk with your vet
post #33 of 42
Cat only need 4-6 oz of water daily? I read that it was one oz per pound? My cats are just under 10 pounds. So I was worried that they were not drinking enough.

Four TB of water is 2oz. And 5 oz of wet food at 78% moisture is about 3.5 oz of water so I guess my cats are getting enough.

Vets have all said my cats look great and have not mentioned any issues with dehydration.
post #34 of 42
Just to throw out my experience with raw for those who have never tried it. Jack and Harley were on about 75% raw for 4 months. They were completely different cats. Leaner and more energetic. I hope that I am able to do that diet again. But I have to have the commitment of my husband to do it with four cats now. It reallys isn't difficult I have amazing resources here but it does take commitment. I was never concerned with salmonella if you want to know the truth I was careful but never worried because I saw the physical results in my cats that the diet had.

As a side note, I would never go back to an all dry diet. My cats eat a tablespoon of dry a day and the rest wet. I keep them on dry solely because we go out of town a lot and rely on my parents and neighbors to care for them and can only have them here one time a day, where as I feed them 3 times a day. They shed heavily on dry and shed very little at all on wet, they consume very little water as well on wet. When we adopted Harley he was alittle overweight, the wet diet helped him to slim down very easily as well. As far as cost, wet is more expensive, but I know the payoff now is better than the vet bills long term. I want these cats to be in my life for 20+ years and don't want to see them suffer from diabetes and kidney disease d/t dry food diets.

Leslie
post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by tdonline View Post
Cat only need 4-6 oz of water daily? I read that it was one oz per pound? My cats are just under 10 pounds. So I was worried that they were not drinking enough.

Four TB of water is 2oz. And 5 oz of wet food at 78% moisture is about 3.5 oz of water so I guess my cats are getting enough.

Vets have all said my cats look great and have not mentioned any issues with dehydration.
If the vet says you're good......... and as long as your cat is passing the "hydration" tests and is urinating normally... I'd say you're totally fine....

Like for many recommendations, I think the recommended water in-take is a suggested amount (1oz per lb) and may be based on a few variables like how active your cat is, if he's an outdoor/indoor cat, the overall health of your cat, and the climate in which you live....

If I do the math, my cat (at 12.5 lbs) gets about 8-9 oz. of water a day and is perfectly fine.... I get concerned some days when it's really hot out and try to sneak in more water with his food, but if I put too much water in with his food, he gives it this "OH MY GOD! YOU EXPECT ME TO EAT THAT?!" look and will just play with it. It's funny, he has a specific threshold.
post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by tdonline View Post
Cat only need 4-6 oz of water daily? I read that it was one oz per pound? My cats are just under 10 pounds. So I was worried that they were not drinking enough.

Four TB of water is 2oz. And 5 oz of wet food at 78% moisture is about 3.5 oz of water so I guess my cats are getting enough.

Vets have all said my cats look great and have not mentioned any issues with dehydration.
Most vet manuals I have checked with would say 4-6 oz .. More than that on a regular basis could signal a problem...
post #37 of 42
Interesting thread...

I'm currently doing a combination of wet and dry. They used to get only dry, but that was because we had yet to find a wet food Cotton would eat and which didn't go straight through Freya, so they got about a 1/2 cup of dry each day split over two meals and lots of water. Personally, I didn't give it much thought since they were healthy and a good weight.

Fast forward to Cotton's dental problems rearing their head yet again and we decided to start switching him onto at least partially wet food, if for no other reason than to make life easier when he went in for dental care. He still loves his kibble, so I leave a bit in for him, but now I mix it with wet...and not a moment too soon since he's slated to have the last of his teeth pulled this week. Fortunately Freya started nibbling on his food while we weren't looking and managed to transition herself to half-and-half as well over the past month.

Personally, I wasn't too happy with dry food since rice went up in price and suddenly plenty of brands that used to have rice now had a mix of rice and corn.

They both drink less with the wet in thier diet and have much better coats, but I do leave the dry in a) because they REALLY like it, b) because we both travel for work occasionally and need a non-spoiling option they'll eat and c) I hate to admit it but all wet is simply just not possible cost-wise for us right now...especially since my picky little darlings settled on a not-exactly-cheap food.

I'm getting better at working the price into our budget and stocking up when cans are on sale, though.
post #38 of 42
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Originally Posted by Ms. Freya
Fast forward to Cotton's dental problems rearing their head yet again and we decided to start switching him onto at least partially wet food, if for no other reason than to make life easier when he went in for dental care.
Strangely enough, my cat with dental issues (teeth not in great condition, grinds his teeth) has little trouble eating dry food but really struggles to eat wet. I'm thinking maybe he chews the wet food and just swallows the dry whole....although I do cut the wet chunks into little pieces.

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Originally Posted by tdonline
Do you mean pinch the scruff and see if it snaps back? Yes, I don't know if I'm doing it right though. The skin seems to go back quickly and "normally" but then again I have nothing to compare to.
I haven't quite figured this out either. Every cat I've tried this on appears dehydrated according to this test...the skin never "snaps" right back. I'm probably doing it wrong.
post #39 of 42
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Originally Posted by MissKalamata View Post
Strangely enough, my cat with dental issues (teeth not in great condition, grinds his teeth) has little trouble eating dry food but really struggles to eat wet. I'm thinking maybe he chews the wet food and just swallows the dry whole....although I do cut the wet chunks into little pieces.
On normal days, even with bad teeth, Cotton actually doesn't have problems with dry. It's those periods after he's had dental extractions that were becoming nightmarish because he simply couldn't each kibble for about 2 weeks but hated canned food so we were looking for a canned that he'd eat to make those 'recovery times' easier.

Honestly, he'll still get his kibble even after his teeth are gone. Since he doesn't really chew it anyway. Sorry if I didn't explain that very well.
post #40 of 42
I am a combo wet/dry free choice feeder... I feed very much in the same way i fed my original pair of cats{who lived to 17 & almost 19yrs} only differences being i feed higher end dry & we have a pet water fountain something unavailable years ago.

My cats are all healthy, good weights, active so obviously what i am doing is working for my cats.
post #41 of 42
My 3 love both wet and dry, and they used to get their wet food for breakfast, and a little at supper. But then Jack started vomiting a lot, so i ran him straight to the vet.

The outcome?, the wet food was being irritated by the furballs he had, and this was how he was bringing it up. So on my vets advice i was to feed him dry only, and the problem stopped, and the furballs came up.

Once the cooler weather comes and the shedding slows down, i'll introduce the wet food again slowly, but until then it's dry.

Jack was being sick up to 4 times a week, and sometimes it would be twice a day despite being brushed daily and having the furball kibbles, so it was awful seeing him like that, and it wouldn't have been a picnic for him either
post #42 of 42
Im very glad I found this thread because I wanted to ask dry feeders with some more knowledge on food about using Purina One. I give all my cats dry food only and free feed them. BF is undependable on giving regular feedings because he works sometimes till 3 am and will forget to walk the 20 ft back into the house. Our dog gets some wet food but only twice a day and its weight management food (being a doxie he is prone to gluttony and excess weight) I use Purina for all animals and currently am getting ready to switch dog to Purina One I just saw a commercial for Purina One Indoor cat food and was interested in switching my cats from Regular Purina to Purina One. Ive heard from ppl who use Purina One that its great food and according to step mother (in law) her vet highly recommends Purina One for all animals. So basically Id like to know what you guys think. Noone in BF's family likes cats so they think its a waste of time for me to buy them the $20 big bag (every 2 weeks) when I could get the generic wal mart brand for 7 dollars. Personally I want my cats to eat healthy dry food. And out of curiousity for those Raw Diet Feeders..what is it and is just regular chicken breast (grilled) ok to feed kitties..They love this treat and I specially grill them their own cut up chicken breast as a snack along with carrots and peas mashed up into a mixture..It works great for the dog too so they all get a snack to share together....

Ohhh random question (sorry for being so annoying everyone) Is it ok for a cat to eat dog food?????????? Fatman LOVES dog food the dry kind and I catch him eating it all the time. Franklin doesnt eat cat food its blocked from him cuz hes allergic.
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