expanded dates on recall, I am so frustrated

jcat · Apr 7, 2007

Originally Posted by xocats

Dexter & Sadie were Nutro pouch addicts.
We have been on the same journey as all of you...
searching for a food they will eat and not get the squirts.

A rather suprising thing has happened...
I have discovered that if they can't have pouch cuts & gravy...
they like pate, not ground.
I tried Calif Natural Canned Chicken & Bn Rice....
they left all the ground meat.

I got New Balance Turkey & Giblets....
added a little filtered water, they loved it.
They are hungry for wet food but I have to go slow or they will "go" fast.

I have so many different cans & brands of wet food in my cubboard, I could almost open pet food store.
What a struggle.

Lei, I have two double cupboards, and one single one, full of nothing but cat food, so I know how you feel. Mind you, we have one resident cat, but currently three freeloaders (two cats and a hedgehog).

All you can do is experiment, and I bet my bottom dollar that Sadie and Dexter are going to become so spoiled by the experiments that you'll be making up menu plans, like I do.

xocats · Apr 7, 2007

Originally Posted by sharky

have u tried wysong au jus??

Not yet but I might try it.
2 Wysong foods are manufactured in a Menu Foods factory.
http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/petfoods_pg2.htm
Scroll down to the W's.

I bought several small cans of New Balance Turkey & Giblets and the Chicken one plus the Ultra to try today.
At least it's pate and the company does not use a Menu Foods factory.

I question every decision that I make.
Fear is my guiding light right now.

jcat · Apr 7, 2007

Originally Posted by xocats

Not yet but I might try it.
2 Wysong foods are manufactured in a Menu Foods factory.
http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/petfoods_pg2.htm
Scroll down to the W's.

I bought several small cans of New Balance Turkey & Giblets and the Chicken one plus the Ultra to try today.
At least it's pate and the company does not use a Menu Foods factory.

I question every decision that I make.

I'm completely paranoid, and I don't even live in North America now.

sharky · Apr 7, 2007

Originally Posted by xocats

Not yet but I might try it.
2 Wysong foods are manufactured in a Menu Foods factory.
http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/petfoods_pg2.htm
Scroll down to the W's.

I bought several small cans of New Balance Turkey & Giblets and the Chicken one plus the Ultra to try today.
At least it's pate and the company does not use a Menu Foods factory.

I question every decision that I make.
Fear is my guiding light right now.

@@@@@@$$$###.. sorry ... Pate is very good

sharky · Apr 7, 2007

I am too the pt of checking plant codes.... anything with an M is not bought...

xocats · Apr 7, 2007

Originally Posted by jcat

I'm completely paranoid, and I don't even live in North America now.

This is how I am feeling.

I like your idea of menu plans.

Originally Posted by sharky

I am too the pt of checking plant codes.... anything with an M is not bought...

I didn't know that about the "M" code.
That is useful info....
Thanks

white cat lover · Apr 7, 2007

The solid gold blended tuna is well received here...they eat all the tuna out.

The other SG wet...it is a similar texture to Merrick...almost. That one fizzled out here.

I bought AvoDerm cans(yes, I believe they are made in a menu plant) & boy....Twitch & Lily ate the entire 3 oz can!

zissou'smom · Apr 7, 2007

Yea, when I first heard about the recall I thought Wysong Au Jus was recalled...

She's eating Nature's Variety Julienned Lamb right now. I think I might just have to deal with that its made by Del Monte who has recalled other things they made because... well, I don't have a choice.

Solid Gold, ey? I haven't seen or tried that one yet.

As for the M on products, not all food has that. Iams just had a number on it that said "4197" which was the tainted plant, and what she was eating all that time. It's helpful to determine what IS from menu, but lack of an M doesn't mean it's NOT from menu.

There are a total of seven kinds of food here now. I am worrying that all this changing will hurt her tummy, though. She typically has an iron stomach but I've only ever changed her food a little bit.

white cat lover · Apr 7, 2007

Just a thought...if you want her to eat pate style...can you pick a kind of pate style food & slowly over a month or more...gradually introduce her to the pate by mixing it in with the Nature's Variety? Then perhaps in the future...she will be more receptive to pate style foods?

misty8723 · Apr 8, 2007

Originally Posted by xocats

Not yet but I might try it.
2 Wysong foods are manufactured in a Menu Foods factory.
http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/petfoods_pg2.htm
Scroll down to the W's.

Wysong also has garlic, if that's an issue for anyone.

misty8723 · Apr 8, 2007

Originally Posted by jcat

I was thinking about suggesting Solid Gold, too. The canned offered here is tuna, but I believe there's at least one other flavor available in the U.S.?

Solid Gold tuna is manufactured in Thailand. I don't know if that's an issue, but I feel a little nervous about feeding imported food right now.

mypuddycat333 · Apr 8, 2007

I didn't see Whiskas (soft in pouch) on the recall list, but I read where it has wheat gluten. I hope my cat is ok. I think she's showing signs of old age and not a reaction to the recalled food. She is only eating about half of her normal amount and only wants the soft foods. She isn't using her litter box. She has gas a lot too. I know I have to take her to the vet.

jcat · Apr 8, 2007

Originally Posted by Misty8723

Solid Gold tuna is manufactured in Thailand. I don't know if that's an issue, but I feel a little nervous about feeding imported food right now.

I think you'll find that a lot of the "niche", i.e., organic or gourmet, canned food is produced in Thailand. I know many of the European all meat and/or fish brands I buy are. The only issue I have with that is that avian flu is still more prevalent in Asia than in other parts of the world. BSE is more prevalent in Europe. Both can affect cats.

As far as imported food is concerned: Nutro pouches produced in the U.S. and involved in the recall found their way to Europe, and my reaction was to put aside any canned foods imported from the U.S..

misty8723 · Apr 8, 2007

Originally Posted by jcat

I think you'll find that a lot of the "niche", i.e., organic or gourmet, canned food is produced in Thailand. I know many of the European all meat and/or fish brands I buy are. The only issue I have with that is that avian flu is still more prevalent in Asia than in other parts of the world. BSE is more prevalent in Europe. Both can affect cats.

As far as imported food is concerned: Nutro pouches produced in the U.S. and involved in the recall found their way to Europe, and my reaction was to put aside any canned foods imported from the U.S..

Yes, I know, nothing feels safe right now, does it?

tari · Apr 10, 2007

I tried Tailer on the Castor & Pollux Ultramix last night. It is produced by Menu, but contains no wheat gluten and is made at a different plant than the one in the recalls. It's the first food with no wheat gluten that I've been able to get him to eat. (He's also a dedicated chunks-and-gravy eater and he's rejected the Merrick and Meow Mix already.) I'd prefer something with no connection to Menu at all, but I think I'm even more nervous about the wheat gluten than I am the Menu connection. I haven't tried it with Harvey yet, and Tailer's been known to eat something for a day or two then stop, so we'll see how it pans out.

The Nature's Variety I've been trying to get them on is the frozen raw diet, which is not produced by Menu. So far Forest is the only one I'm having much success with on the raw. I haven't been able to find the cans locally, but I might order some if the Ultramix fails.

beandip · Apr 10, 2007

Originally Posted by Tari

The Nature's Variety I've been trying to get them on is the frozen raw diet, which is not produced by Menu. So far Forest is the only one I'm having much success with on the raw. I haven't been able to find the cans locally, but I might order some if the Ultramix fails.

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant...but just a heads up... The Nature's Variety canned food is "ground"...well, at least what I have picked up. I'm pretty sure it all is. I think it's Nature's Recipe or some other "Nature's-something-or-other" brand that has a non wheat gluten chunky food.

beachbum · Apr 10, 2007

How about the Natura brand Innova--the only grain in it is brown rice and if that is even considered a grain. Does anyone know if this one is made by the Menu foods. I think I will email them a question.

http://www.innovapet.com/products/default.asp?id=34

http://www.innovapet.com/products/default.asp?id=2

zissou'smom · Apr 10, 2007

Originally Posted by beandip

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant...but just a heads up... The Nature's Variety canned food is "ground"...well, at least what I have picked up. I'm pretty sure it all is. I think it's Nature's Recipe or some other "Nature's-something-or-other" brand that has a non wheat gluten chunky food.

Looking at the can right now, it is this: http://www.naturesrecipe.com/CatProd...nnedLambRecipe
I was confused about the brand names! Too many similar ones.

You were right. It is made by Del Monte though but at least not by menu!

Natura does use Menu. Sadly. Glad to see you back around the site Beachbum!

renovia · Apr 10, 2007

what about the meow mix market selects.....beef - no gluten in it, but is it made by menu>

beachbum · Apr 10, 2007

Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom

Looking at the can right now, it is this: http://www.naturesrecipe.com/CatProd...nnedLambRecipe
I was confused about the brand names! Too many similar ones.

You were right. It is made by Del Monte though but at least not by menu!

Natura does use Menu. Sadly. Glad to see you back around the site Beachbum!

Natura uses Menu, are you sure, is it only the wet or both. If I am not mistaken they have not wheat gluten or corn. Are you sure it isn't the other brand Nutro or the other one that is spelled very similar. Anyhoo, I will email them now to find out for sure. Are they on the recall list?

Hey, just to let you know this is only my second post on this site. I just join the site this weekend. Maybe you seen my name on other sites. Well I will email that question, I'll get back. I hope they don't lie to me.

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