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I am thinking you getting this all wrong. A human leg has more stenght than jaguars leg strenght for example. Infact, one good roundhouse kick from a well-trained martial artist can break a jaguars skull. The problem is, Jaguars like other cats are a lot more agile and quick than we are and we wouldn't have the chance to hit them.Originally Posted by CharmsDad
Where did you hear this???? This is so far from true (and so easily checked) it's unbelievable you'd even say it. Humans are remarkably weak for their weight when compared to other similar sized animals. Wolf bite strength is in excess of 1200 lbs/in with domestic dogs running over 900 for German Shepards. Having been in the position on multiple occasions to need to subdue adult wolves and large dogs I can tell you I could not do it safely without supporting equipment, and a large animal requires multiple people working as a team. Big cats are even stronger for their weight with a bite strength a bit less than wolves and varies by species but is still much greater than humans. A young gorilla has roughly 9 times the arm strength of a similar sized adult human and 4 times the bite strength, and a 150 lb Orangutan can easily pop a coconut with one hand.
Humans are NOT great apes, they are a completely separate class of primates (the sole surviving species of humanoid). Great apes are chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans, and bonobos.
Cheetahs, like all cats, are remarkably strong for their weight. While you might be able to knock one over the result would be making it mad, not subduing it. You started with claiming an average sized man could "easily" overpower a cheetah, then later claimed he could 7 out of 10 times. You've greatly contradicted yourself here, and even if it was true it would only take one of those 3 out of 10 times for the cheetah to inflict serious wounds - which they will when they're cornered and feel threatened. The reality is a human without equipment or support can not reliably or readily overpower a cheetah. While they may not be as agressive as some other cats, there is still a risk. In addition, cheetahs have a the notorious history of becoming quite frail when kept in captivity, particularly when not kept in a sufficiently sized environment or where climate conditions are unfavorable (read "cold".)
Interesting claim since the very few documented efforts to do this have been in India or Asia and mostly unsuccessful.
You are also mistaking PSI (pounds for square Inch) with bite force. PSI is the total force all four teeth can bite. Guess what our PSI is, 800! Bite force is different. Just to clarify, here below are some sample average bite forces in pounds of pressure, NOT PSI;
Human: 200 (Humans have special techniques to increase their bite force, for example the world record is 935 pounds of pressure. ANIMALS don't know about and it can raise your bite force to over 450+ pounds of pressure).
Cougar: 300
Wolf: 500
Tiger or Lion: 1,000
Polar Bear: 1,800
American Aligator: 3,000
Gorilla: 1,300
If you don't believe me you can look on google yourself. But biting is not the best way to win for us anyways. Our limb strikes can be stronger, because we know techniques to increase our limb strenght using our brains, the greatest weapon of a human. A boxer's punch for example can go up to 1,000 pounds of pressure or more. No, humans are not that strong. There is a special technique boxers use to raise their bite forc can e. Gorillas don't and can't learn this special technique to punch, which it will make a Gorillas an astronomical punch. Gorillas are 20 times stronger than humans. Oh and yes, we are the weakest of the Great Apes, male chimps can be 4-8 times stronger than a normal man. However a humans leg is equally as strong as a chimp's arm. Think of this similie; humans are to legs, as chimps are to arms.
I am talking about comparing humans to other animals. While normal humans most likely would not be able to beat a cougar for example, a cheetah of similar size would stand a lesser chance against man. Like I said, cheetahs ARE NOT BUILT LIKE OTHER CATS! They are much more lean and built more for speed. Yes there might of been attacks on people, maybe even some have gotten killed! Many humans are usally to gentle to fight if they see a cut, but some humans are tougher than others. Remeber humans have the most diversity in habits and bodies of many animals. For example how obese humans can get.
Oh and yes, we are Great Apes. Primate first of all is a class, and humans belong to a family of primates called Hominidae. Yes, we are the last species of our genus. The nonhuman great apes have varying degrees of DNA similarity to humans. Just to clarify, Chimpanzees, bonobos, and humans share 98.4 percent of the same DNA sequence. Gorillas share 97.7 percent of their DNA with chimpanzees, bonobos, and humans. Orangutans share 96.4 percent of their DNA with chimpanzees, bonobos, humans, and gorillas. For more detailed information on this issue, as well as general information on primates, you may want to reference Dr. Robert Shumaker's book Primates in Question. It is an excellent resource if you are interested in learning more about what I am talking about.
I hope this information helps;
Family Hominidae
Species: Bornean Orangutan (Pongo pygmaeus)
Subspecies: Pongo pygmaeus pygmaeus
Pongo pygmaeus wurmbii
Pongo pygmaeus morio
Species: Sumatran Orangutan (Pongo abelii)
No subspecies currently recognized
Species: Western Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla)
Subspecies: Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla gorilla)
Cross River Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla diehli)
Species: Eastern Gorilla (Gorilla beringei)
Subspecies: Mountain Gorilla (Gorilla beringei beringei)
Eastern Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla beringei graueri)
Species: Chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes)
Subspecies: Pan troglodytes troglodytes
Pan troglodytes verus
Pan troglodytes vellerosus
Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii
Species: Bonobo (Pan paniscus)
No subspecies currently recognized
Species: Modern Humans (Homo Sapiens)
Subspecies: Homo Sapiens Negroid
Homo Sapiens Cuacasoid
Homo Sapiens Mongusoid
Finally I just want to tell you, I am in training to get my degree in zoology. I have done Martial Arts and combat sports for over 12 years. If their is two things I specialize at is animals and combat. So don't think I don't know what I am talking about. I respect you and I know you have probably dealt with animals, maybe more than me with many species. Just keep in mind that I know a great deal of what I am talking about. Of the big cats, I have worked with tigers, cheetahs, and cougars during my studing.
In any case, how did talking about having a pet cheetah turn into a debate on human's strenght? All I wanted to do is show how cheetahs can make good pets compared to other wild cats. Spotz, I have no intention to brutilize animals, nor do I at all. Just everyone brought this small subject up. When I mean man to overpower a cheetah, I mean control him if he/she goes beserk and starts to attack people, which of course wouldn't happen. I was saying it in a "what if" situation.