Is this arthritis? Or something worse??

[violet]

Methylcobalamin comes only as oral medication. Cyanocobalamin is the injectable form.

The reason I would want to try this is because you're not dealing with diabetic neuropathy here. The simple underlying cause may just be a B 12 deficiency, or it could even have something to do with the arthritis. For other possibilities I would ask an orthopedic specialist. (Your vet could do that for you.) Anyway, there is a question whether using the methyl form is indeed essential in this situation. It very well may be. So I would ask the vet if it would be all right to use the oral form as well while trying the injections. Since there is no danger of overdose and B 12 is essentially non-toxic, there would be nothing to worry about.

I would also ask the vet to get in touch with an orthopedic specialist to find out if Baytril could possibly have anything to do with neuropathy. An orthopedic specialist would be my trusted source for this information.
Actually, I'm wondering, would you have access to an orthopedic specialist in your area so Waggles could be seen for an evaluation? It would be wonderful if you could do that.

I would get the injections directly from the vet if your hospital has a pharmacy, or from a local pharmacy. I would not get them online. You wouldn't want more than three anyway, to start with.

 

[otto]

What is the difference in therapeutic valueills vs shots?

I gave my Ootay subq B-12 and B complex shots, and they did very well for her. When first starting I noticed the full benefit by the third day after the shots, and benefits lasted about 10 days total.

Ootay had CRF, high blood pressure (untreated) hyperthyroid (untreated) megacolon, heart murmur, arthritis and stroke (from the untreated HBP and HTD)

She did not have high phosphorous, and her potassium was normal, though she did walk on her hocks. That hock walking did seem to improve slightly after the B 12 and B complex shots, but it was hard to tell after her second stroke, since she had some permanent paralysis. She could still walk, and was not in pain from it, but her little body went in kind of a U shape.

Yes, the solution in the injections is very sensitive to light and does not have a long shelf life, so you can't really get more than two or three in advance at a time.

Please keep us posted on Waggles!

 

[spookzilla]

Thanks Otto and Violet, I think the orthopaedic specialist is a good idea and I will definitely ask my vet about B12 injections.

Otto, my understanding is that oral B12 is not absorbed into the body as readily as injections are so if you are giving them 3 mg orally then the body will actually only use a fraction of that. With injections the body uses a lot more of it.

Were you giving Ootay the cyano form of B12 only or the methyl form?

 

[otto]

Originally Posted by spookzilla

Thanks Otto and Violet, I think the orthopaedic specialist is a good idea and I will definitely ask my vet about B12 injections.

Otto, my understanding is that oral B12 is not absorbed into the body as readily as injections are so if you are giving them 3 mg orally then the body will actually only use a fraction of that. With injections the body uses a lot more of it.

Were you giving Ootay the cyano form of B12 only or the methyl form?

I don't know. I didn't know there were different forms of the shots, I only know that one shot was strictly B-12 and the other was B-complex(all the other Bs) One was pink and one was yellow, but I don't remember which was which.

I can ask my vet next time I am there, which will be at the end of March.

 

[sharky]

Pill has to be fully Digested prior to absorption ... Liquid ie shot is strait into the bloodstream no digestion required... Red / pink was the B12 likely at least that is the color of the one my vet uses

IMHO I have always done liquid or subliminal for myself ( I can say for this human with nerve issue this and another natural supplement helped MORE than a potent rx).... I took regular tablets with no results

 

[littleraven7726]

Originally Posted by spookzilla

Otto, my understanding is that oral B12 is not absorbed into the body as readily as injections are so if you are giving them 3 mg orally then the body will actually only use a fraction of that. With injections the body uses a lot more of it.

That is what my vet told me. Nabu is on B12 injections and they really help. He's on it to help with his digestive issues. Cosequin seems to be helping his arthritis, but I'm thinking of switching him to Dasuquin when I have to order more.

The B12 we have is the red color that Sharky was talking about.