I have had some good advices from you guys and girls before so I try again.
First a little update:
Our five feral kittens and there mamas has now moved down to the bottom floor with us and is adapting well.The two small ones are completely tame and the mamas are not hiding anymore but still keep a saftey distance to us. The three older kittens keeps a safety distance and we had a real step backwards in the socializasing process when we went on a five day vacation. As some of you know these kittens were really ill when we found them and have has been treated for pnemonia, sneezing disease (herpes and some other virus) and Chlamydious infection in there eyes. Before we went on vacation they where healthy and I began to be able to touch them without hissing. One of them was even spinning when I petted her.
Now I cannot touch them and if I have to lift them up for treatment they will try to hurt me bad - at least the two little girls.
They are slowly coming around again. We play wit them an hour aday at lest and they are not scittish anymore and walk almost up to us, but touch them - no no.
The youngest ones turned really ill from sneezing disease ten days ago and since they also had a slight bronchitis and a beginning infection in there eyes they are still on antibiotics. No problem since they are tame. The sneezing is over now and they are doing fine.
Now I see that the older ones are getting in worse shape again. Silas sneezing disease is already chronical and the two girls are sneezing now and then. No fever though and there eyes and lungs still seem ok.
Now my questions:
1. Should I catch them and take them to the vet. Start a treatment that will take some fighting to perform every day and probably loose there trust completely - or should I wait as long as it doesn't gets worse and give them a chanse to get more trustfull? We are getting closer every day.
2. They are still with their mamas and the younger mama has constantly pouring eyes. She had some treatment when she was spayed but it didn't help a lot. There is not a chanse in the world to give her medication without trapping her. Do I have to split them up? This would mean that the mamas will live outdoor as wild cats with food from us.
I would like to give the mamas the time it takes to get domestic. If it takes years no problem - but if it is the only way to save the kittens from getting reinfected.....?
To give the kittens up for adoption is not an option yet. No one here will be interested untill they are tame and healthy. My small babies yes but no - they will stay with us for the rest of their lives. They are my bottle-babies.
3. The four papas is still comming on visit and they are not neutered. For two of them I cannot find an owner so I gonna catch them and have it done. The other two is from my neighbour. I have offerd to take them to the vet and fixed a really good price for her - even to pay it, but she refuses. should I have it done when she is on vacation? She might not notice but if she does...? They are born wild and brothers of the younger mother we have with us.
First a little update:
Our five feral kittens and there mamas has now moved down to the bottom floor with us and is adapting well.The two small ones are completely tame and the mamas are not hiding anymore but still keep a saftey distance to us. The three older kittens keeps a safety distance and we had a real step backwards in the socializasing process when we went on a five day vacation. As some of you know these kittens were really ill when we found them and have has been treated for pnemonia, sneezing disease (herpes and some other virus) and Chlamydious infection in there eyes. Before we went on vacation they where healthy and I began to be able to touch them without hissing. One of them was even spinning when I petted her.
Now I cannot touch them and if I have to lift them up for treatment they will try to hurt me bad - at least the two little girls.
They are slowly coming around again. We play wit them an hour aday at lest and they are not scittish anymore and walk almost up to us, but touch them - no no.
The youngest ones turned really ill from sneezing disease ten days ago and since they also had a slight bronchitis and a beginning infection in there eyes they are still on antibiotics. No problem since they are tame. The sneezing is over now and they are doing fine.
Now I see that the older ones are getting in worse shape again. Silas sneezing disease is already chronical and the two girls are sneezing now and then. No fever though and there eyes and lungs still seem ok.
Now my questions:
1. Should I catch them and take them to the vet. Start a treatment that will take some fighting to perform every day and probably loose there trust completely - or should I wait as long as it doesn't gets worse and give them a chanse to get more trustfull? We are getting closer every day.
2. They are still with their mamas and the younger mama has constantly pouring eyes. She had some treatment when she was spayed but it didn't help a lot. There is not a chanse in the world to give her medication without trapping her. Do I have to split them up? This would mean that the mamas will live outdoor as wild cats with food from us.
I would like to give the mamas the time it takes to get domestic. If it takes years no problem - but if it is the only way to save the kittens from getting reinfected.....?
To give the kittens up for adoption is not an option yet. No one here will be interested untill they are tame and healthy. My small babies yes but no - they will stay with us for the rest of their lives. They are my bottle-babies.
3. The four papas is still comming on visit and they are not neutered. For two of them I cannot find an owner so I gonna catch them and have it done. The other two is from my neighbour. I have offerd to take them to the vet and fixed a really good price for her - even to pay it, but she refuses. should I have it done when she is on vacation? She might not notice but if she does...? They are born wild and brothers of the younger mother we have with us.