Ok we have been trying to keep our older cat off the kitchen counter for awhile now and it hasn't been working. We have a younger cat, about 4 months, that just found out how to jump up on the counter and we can't keep them off of them. It wouldn't honestly be so bad except that they won't stay off even when we are fixing food. What is a good way to keep them off? I know that using a spray bottle works but I also know that some people find it innapropriate. Are there any ways to keep them off without punishing them?