Behaviour problems (biting) with young cat

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Hi everyone,

I've been having some problems with my kitten, he is just a bit over 7 months old (already fixed, didn't seem to affect him one bit!) and he bites and scratches a lot - like every time I actively play with him. He also has a very bad habit of jumping at people's feet and legs when they are walking and this has led to him getting hurt on a couple of occasions, not badly but like having his tail or paw trodden on enough to make him yelp and make a run for it. I'm afraid he will really hurt himself or someone else if this continues. Several times now he has almost tripped me on the stairs running up to meet me and I'm always paranoid of where I put my feet.

He is otherwise a lovely cat, he is very cuddly and likes to sit on the couch behind my head with his paws on my shoulders, nestled into my neck. He curls up beautifully with my boyfriend and stays put on his lap purring away for hours. He is not possessive of his food or toys to an unreasonable extent and even when he bites etc. does not seem to do so maliciously, he seems to think it is a part of playing. He has only ever hissed twice, both times were upon hearing aerosol being sprayed and he just ran away, then came back when he had calmed down.

I would really appreciate any advice (and please accept my apologies for making such a long first post), I have only really been around two cats before, an elderly, timid stray I lured into my house when I was 13 and loved on and spoiled until he passed away and my boyfriend's cat I've known since he was a kitten (3 years now) who was always very chilled out.

One thing that worries me is that I got Skittles when he was only 8 weeks because he was an oopsie and the dam's owner (NOT a friend, someone from my boyfriend's work who heard I was looking for a pet) didn't want to keep him any longer. His brother was homed at six weeks but I absolutely refused to have him that young. I might not know a huge amount but I know they shouldn't be separated from mum that young if at all avoidable! I'm concerned he has maybe never been properly socialised and I don't know how to help him with this.

When I got him I was told he was eating dry food and water but that was rubbish and I had to give him wet food mixed with Lactol for two weeks followed by a while of wet only (can't remember quite how long) before he could tolerate dry.

His regular diet now is Royal Canin or James Wellbeloved dry food (they're about the best you can get around here and it really depends on what the pet store or vet has in stock) with water to drink and a small bit of raw meat daily, sometimes mixed with a bit of raw egg depending on what kind of meat it is. He doesn't really get treats as such as I have my doubts about how good typical store-bought treats are for animals but I'd be happy to introduce reasonably healthy treats into his diet as an incentive for his behaviour if you can recommend anything.

Once again sorry for the novel and if I missed anything out at all (haha!) let me know, any advice would be wonderful!
 

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Originally Posted by Laiste

he bites and scratches a lot - like every time I actively play with him.
There's your problem right there. You shouldn't have your hands or feet anywhere near him when you're actively playing. Kittens "play" by pretending to hunt, so they are going to bite and scratch whatever they see as toys. From the sounds of it, you use your hands to play with him? That's only going to teach him that hands are toys. you should get a wand toy with a feather for him, so he can pounce, bite, scratch, and bunny kick it to his heart's content.

Him jumping at other people's legs as they move is another indicator that he sees human body parts as toys. My kitten was lunging at my feet for a while and I couldnt figure out why, until I saw my roommate using his feet to play with the kitten. I stopped him from doing that, and the behavior has all but stopped.
 
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Hi, thank you for your reply.

Sorry I wasn't clear but I absolutely don't play with my hands near him -because of the problems we have had! I am even feeling nervous when petting him now as a couple of times he has started to "mouth" me which I am worried will lead to being bitten and this is why I've decided to ask for help, I don't want to feel scared of my cat and feel I can't give him affection because of my nervousness.

I mostly use the kind of toys which are a long stick with elastic and a fuzzy toy or feather and bell on the end of the elastic for when we are playing together.

After a few minutes of play he will ignore the toy and jump up and bite at whoever is holding it. Or if you drop the toy and go to pick it up he will bite or scratch at you.

I have bought some toys which he can play with alone, balls etc he always had obviously but now I have two toys which you wind up and a stick with feathers on starts spinning around for them to chase but I don't want to give up on interactive play with him completely if I can avoid it.
 
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I have just considered and I will speak to my flatmate about this as I guess he might be playing with hands/feet.

He knows where the toys are and likes the cat but he's kind of "one of those guys" and I did have to stop him from playing too rough when Skittles was very little. I suppose he might have continued teasing him with fingers and toes if he couldn't be bothered to go find the toys when I am out.

I'll speak to Mike and if this has been the problem and a slight difference in how he plays is all it takes to correct this over time I will be very happy!

As an aside, how should I react when he does bite while we are still trying to get him out of this habit? Right now I clap or stomp (if he's not near my feet) and shout NO! which sometimes makes him stop but sometimes I have to "scruff" him (which I hate doing because it can't be nice and I don't him to think I'm trying to hurt him in case it makes him bite more) and physically pull his head away from my hand or arm.
 

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Whenever our youngest used to try to go after my hands, I would scruff him gently, push him down on his side and hiss at him. After a few seconds he would relax, then I'd let him go. Took several tries and a few squirts from a water bottle when he was really persistent, but it did work. You can also try putting your kitty in a "time out", alone in the bathroom for a few minutes.
If you don't have one, invest in a laser pointer too, that way you can play with him from a distance too.
 
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I can't put him in the bathroom unfortunately as there is a sort of shelf area blocking in all the pipes but the part behind the toilet is open to allow the pipes to come out and he is still small enough to squeeze down there and get all dusty and dirty, the amount of times he's gotten down behind the toilet and nothing upon nothing will get him out until he's good and ready!

He's is growing fast and by the looks of him he will be a big boy when he's done and I'm just waiting for the day he gets stuck completely so he is barred until I find a way to block it off!

There is a spare bedroom in the house though which is quite empty so I guess I could let him chill in there when he needs to.

As for the laser pointer that is a great idea! I did have one before but it was just a cheap flimsy thing and he got a hold of it one day when I was out and I think he was trying to make it work by himself. Once it was in several parts he gave up
I will definitely look for another.

He is sitting with me right now as angelic as you please purring away


Thank you for your advice
 

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I don't know how large the space is behind your toilet where the pipes enter the room.

If it is not too big - one common piece of advice to block out mice or squirrels is to stuff the holes with coarse steel wool. It is used for finishing wood. # 0000 is very fine, the roughest we have is # 2. Don't know if it comes coarser than that. There are also steel wool scrubby pads for cleaning cooking pots if you cannot find the wood working kind. These are like lumpy crochet hand-size things and NOT the finer texture soap filled pads.

Stuff the opening and maybe tack some window screening over it to keep your inquisitive boy from just pulling everything out. I know my two little hellions can be very determined.

Scruffing is what a mother cat would do when moving young kittens. I see my two bite each other the same way. And a tom will bite the queen when he mounts. So I don't think your cat will perceive your scruffing him as some totally nasty act. More of a "pay attention!" matter.
 
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Thanks, I have been nagging my dad for ages so tomorrow I am going to call him and drag him to B'n'Q! If I know what to get he has no excuse lol. I did have the gap (not that big - I really have no idea how he manages to get in and turn to get back out, must open out a big inside there) stuffed with old towels but he kept pulling them out and eventually it was easier just to keep him away from the bathroom.

Thank you both also for the information about scruffing. For some reason I thought once they were big enough that their mother didn't carry them this would hurt/annoy them so even doing it just enough to break his grip made me feel so guilty!
 

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You shouldn't pick them up the scruff, but grabbing it gently won't hurt them. Hope it all works out for you. Hope these tips help you.
 
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I spoke to Mike this morning and he has said he does let Skittles chase him (which I'm guessing would be why he jumps on people's feet) around the house and occasionally shakes toys at him that are not wand or fishing pole (is that right? I've been reading around the site and that's what you guys seem to call them lol) style, i.e. just a stuffed toy or rattle in his hand. I did not imagine my 27 year old roomie would be telling me he likes to run around the house barefoot with a cat bouncing off the walls after him but to each his own I suppose!

So mystery solved lol. I guess I should have done my research about kittens a little better and made sure my room-mate knew the score when it came to how we should act around him, Mike has never had pets, and Skittles is my responsibility after all.

I've asked Mike from now on to refrain from playing this way and if Skittles does try to chase or bite him he should tell him "No" and ignore the behaviour as best he can, shutting him into another room for a short time as a last resort if he gets agressive or over-excited. Does this sound OK?

Thanks for the advice everyone.
 

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It could also be from petting him TOO much. When you're petting him, watch his body language, especially his tail. If it starts going back and forth, stop petting. Too much love can be a bad thing. I've also read that there can be a delayed reaction between something you did and the reaction of your cat/love bug/psycho.
And I second what ever one else has said: hands/feet are not toys. I use to move my feet a lot under the blankets when I went to bed and couldn't figure out why Ritz was so taken by my feet. Until I realized she thought my feet were mice.
 
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I can't honestly say I've ever paid much attention to his tail but I will from now on! Usually when he is fed up being petted he will just walk off and resist further attention (walking away again) at which point I just leave him alone.

For the moment, the pipe gap is plugged up so he can go in the bathroom again, I've had a word with my house-mate and I've purchased a new toy I saw in the supermarket today which is the longest fuzzy snake you've ever seen attached to a wand. This way I hope I can play with him from a bit of a distance and have a bit more warning if he decides my hands look tasty!

I also picked up a new spray bottle to fill with water, I haven't used one before and I don't really want to but I've seen him get splashed by accident before and know he hates it so I will use it as a deterrent if the circumstances warrant it.

Thanks everyone.
 
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