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Yeah. I'll look at it later, after I get the kids in bed.
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You know what's weird.. I have a slight phone problem too. I don't like calling someone who I having talked to in awhile... Even my best friend from HS who I used to chat with every day... The longer I go without talking to someone, the weirder I feel about calling them.. makes me anxious. My sister hardly ever answers the phone.. the only time she did was when she had a boyfriend who she thought was calling!
Anyway.. My family hx if anyone finds it interesting. My mom has depression. Her mother has anxiety and depression. She has 8 siblings. At least three of them have been diagnosed with depression, one of those also anxiety and probably OCD. I have another uncle who we suspect has depression.. but he would never admit or try medication, however he seems miserable and unhappy. I also have at least one cousin who was hospitalized for depression at one point.
My dad.. we suspect he has AS and ADD.
Me- some depression and some mild ADD. (never was dx with ADD but I know I have it.. was able to manage in school though.)
My sister major depression, AS, anxiety, OCD and ADD... enough to effect her school work. I think she managed to get the worst of both sides of the gene pool.
My bro.. depression and ADD.
No one has ever been dx with Bi-Polar, thank goodness.
Anyway.. My family hx if anyone finds it interesting. My mom has depression. Her mother has anxiety and depression. She has 8 siblings. At least three of them have been diagnosed with depression, one of those also anxiety and probably OCD. I have another uncle who we suspect has depression.. but he would never admit or try medication, however he seems miserable and unhappy. I also have at least one cousin who was hospitalized for depression at one point.
My dad.. we suspect he has AS and ADD.
Me- some depression and some mild ADD. (never was dx with ADD but I know I have it.. was able to manage in school though.)
My sister major depression, AS, anxiety, OCD and ADD... enough to effect her school work. I think she managed to get the worst of both sides of the gene pool.
My bro.. depression and ADD.
No one has ever been dx with Bi-Polar, thank goodness.
Is there some online thing I can take to see if I should be evaluated for it?
I'm getting kind of creeped out reading all your descriptions and the articles you have posted...
I've always just considered myself an eccentric geek, nerd, dork... whatever you want to call it. I never thought there could be a reason for it.
Sometimes, and I am in the medical field, I think *they* (whoever they are) create syndromes, disorders, and the like where there aren't really syndromes or disorders. They are just different ways to be human. Labeling these things is not productive, IMO. Tolerance and acceptance of different kinds of people should be the focus. :shrug:
I'm getting kind of creeped out reading all your descriptions and the articles you have posted...
Sometimes, and I am in the medical field, I think *they* (whoever they are) create syndromes, disorders, and the like where there aren't really syndromes or disorders. They are just different ways to be human. Labeling these things is not productive, IMO. Tolerance and acceptance of different kinds of people should be the focus. :shrug:
Well from my understanding Aspergers people usually concentrate in scientific fields. Since you are in the medical field, an Aspergers person around you could actually be absolutely normal.
I actually think it is not a syndrome, just a totally different way of thinking entirely.
I actually think it is not a syndrome, just a totally different way of thinking entirely.
Here is an online screening assessment for AS, (AS is one of the 5 types of Pervasive Development Disorder, PDD).
http://www.childbrain.com/pddq6.shtml
Adults may want to take the AQ test. It measures autistic traits in adults.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
Results of these tests could be printed out and taken to a doctor. Neither one may be used to diagnosis.
As far as labeling goes. A diagnosis is only given when there is "significant impairment" in daily functioning. My son cannot handle a public school classroom even with major support. His AS diagnosis allows him to be in a private therapeutic school that costs more than a year in private college. He is in a class of 6 boys with 3 teachers. He receives, OT, PT, speech, social skills, etc. Our school district would not pay for the school and busing without a dx. He is not just a little different, his daily functioning is significantly impaired.
Adults that can work, support themselves and function in our society would not receive a dx. A dx explains why an individual cannot function in mainstream society.
Elise
http://www.childbrain.com/pddq6.shtml
Adults may want to take the AQ test. It measures autistic traits in adults.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
Results of these tests could be printed out and taken to a doctor. Neither one may be used to diagnosis.
As far as labeling goes. A diagnosis is only given when there is "significant impairment" in daily functioning. My son cannot handle a public school classroom even with major support. His AS diagnosis allows him to be in a private therapeutic school that costs more than a year in private college. He is in a class of 6 boys with 3 teachers. He receives, OT, PT, speech, social skills, etc. Our school district would not pay for the school and busing without a dx. He is not just a little different, his daily functioning is significantly impaired.
Adults that can work, support themselves and function in our society would not receive a dx. A dx explains why an individual cannot function in mainstream society.
Elise
Thanks. I got a 32. I am not sure if it does affect my daily functioning... I've never kept a job for more than one year, except for one job where a bunch of us were just weird like that.
I quit that one because I didn't like the management. I've always just rationalized it all to the fact that I'm still in school and that interns are replacable with interns with better class schedules.
I've just grown accustomed to my "loner-ness" and it doesn't bother me on a daily basis, except at work and at school, where people often misunderstand me and have a negative bias of my personality or abilities. So there's a reason for all this? I thought it was just because well... I'm weird.
I've just grown accustomed to my "loner-ness" and it doesn't bother me on a daily basis, except at work and at school, where people often misunderstand me and have a negative bias of my personality or abilities. So there's a reason for all this? I thought it was just because well... I'm weird.
That can't be right. I got a 208 on the first and 48 on the second. I feel completely normal.
I got a 32 on the child one, and a 33 on the adult one.. It says adults with AS usually score 32 or above on the adult test. Interesting. I'll have to send this to my mom.
I'm sorry shengmei, but I have to jump in. For someone who claims to have AS, you are making a lot of incorrect statements and outrageous generalizations. And you definitely shouldn't be giving this woman medical advice or diagnosing her ex as you are in no way qualified for that. NO ONE can just read about Asperger's and say they have those symptoms and just diagnose themselves or others. It goes much deeper than that -- the purest diagnosis is made when the person does not know they are being evaluated. It's how people act when they are not aware of it. And your opinion does not change the fact that AS is classified as a Pervasive Developmental Disorder.
Butterfly, I'd be happy to talk with you anytime. I am a Senior Therapist for the Wisconsin Early Autism Project, and I've worked with about 40 children in the surrounding areas. The majority had classic autism, but I worked with several children with AS and PDD-NOS (otherwise known as the blanket diagnosis
) as well. I have to say -- I have always loved the children I work with as if they were my own, but most of those that I completely identified with 100% had AS. Feel free to contact me -- I have a feeling my words will become twisted if I post them publicly.
Butterfly, I'd be happy to talk with you anytime. I am a Senior Therapist for the Wisconsin Early Autism Project, and I've worked with about 40 children in the surrounding areas. The majority had classic autism, but I worked with several children with AS and PDD-NOS (otherwise known as the blanket diagnosis
I apologize. I was basing the medications remarks on some tentative research that might or might not be correct. I believe it is better to be safe and not be sorry.
My therapist taught me that I have Aspergers before I even knew it existed. For years I thought I was bipolar instead.
I do have Aspergers, but my Aspergers are not as severe as the online tests I took eariler indicated. I have mild to moderate Aspergers. I think I was being way too harsh on myself when my therapist thinks I am better than I actually am.
My therapist taught me that I have Aspergers before I even knew it existed. For years I thought I was bipolar instead.
I do have Aspergers, but my Aspergers are not as severe as the online tests I took eariler indicated. I have mild to moderate Aspergers. I think I was being way too harsh on myself when my therapist thinks I am better than I actually am.
Thanks for your input, ForJazz. Your comments are appreciated and noted.
Shengmei, it did puzzle me a bit that you made such strange remarks about "mental diseases" as if they were something to be ashamed of or somehow that they are the fault of the person with a "mental disease." All psychiatric disorders involve neurotransmitters and brain anatomy abnormalities, some more than others. It is hotly debated in the world of psychology if many of these disorders are environmental or genetic, and the consensus is pretty much that they are all a combination of both, in addition to the influence of the culture the patient is being evaluated in. I hope you didn't mean to imply that some diseases reflect poorly on the person while Asperger's is somehow different and "better." I don't think you meant that, but it sure seemed it.
On the same token, although I don't think it, I could say that Asperger's is merely a lack of social intelligence and a failure to adapt to society due to a weakness in character or parenting. I don't believe this, of course, but do you see how you would feel if I said that about Aspergers? I am sure some with depression, schizophrenia, or bipolar may feel similarly offended by your comments, even though you may not have meant them that way.
And if you did mean them that way, I beg you to learn more about the controversial and fascinating world of psychology and "mental diseases."
Shengmei, it did puzzle me a bit that you made such strange remarks about "mental diseases" as if they were something to be ashamed of or somehow that they are the fault of the person with a "mental disease." All psychiatric disorders involve neurotransmitters and brain anatomy abnormalities, some more than others. It is hotly debated in the world of psychology if many of these disorders are environmental or genetic, and the consensus is pretty much that they are all a combination of both, in addition to the influence of the culture the patient is being evaluated in. I hope you didn't mean to imply that some diseases reflect poorly on the person while Asperger's is somehow different and "better." I don't think you meant that, but it sure seemed it.
On the same token, although I don't think it, I could say that Asperger's is merely a lack of social intelligence and a failure to adapt to society due to a weakness in character or parenting. I don't believe this, of course, but do you see how you would feel if I said that about Aspergers? I am sure some with depression, schizophrenia, or bipolar may feel similarly offended by your comments, even though you may not have meant them that way.
And if you did mean them that way, I beg you to learn more about the controversial and fascinating world of psychology and "mental diseases."
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I haven't been online really the last couple of days, going through alot of deep emotions myself and having a hard time dealing. ForJazz...if you want to PM me or even check out my messangers you can feel free to message me and I'd love to chat with you online.
I'm the type of person that tries to stay out of conflict of anytime, mental health issues are something I've struggled with for years myself.
My daughter's case of Asperger's was classified as a more severe form based on the testing and observation (I'm not sure if I said that or not).
And it has been suspected that she may also have a co-diagnosis of bipolar with the Asperger's. I need to get her seen by specialists but right now we have had so many finanicial difficulties and have had to move so many times it's been hard to get things situated.
Meanwhile I'm waiting for the VA rule on my disability case for compensation and my husband is desperately looking for work.
I'm severely depressed myself again.
I know I have some mental health issues, I do my very best to ensure they do not impact my children, generally holding in my tears and frustrations until very late at night when I begin to feel anxiety and pure sadness at all that's gone on with us in the last few months (again, my profile, check out my threads if you want to or haven't).
And I'm rambling on and on but I have ever so much on my mind right now and feel very much alone because I've burdened my husband enough, okay he says it's not a burden but I feel like it is.
And I have no friends.
Or family now.
Except for my ILs and the living situation is creating a certain amount of stress for us all.
Okay this is going off topic.
Sorry.
I'm the type of person that tries to stay out of conflict of anytime, mental health issues are something I've struggled with for years myself.
My daughter's case of Asperger's was classified as a more severe form based on the testing and observation (I'm not sure if I said that or not).
And it has been suspected that she may also have a co-diagnosis of bipolar with the Asperger's. I need to get her seen by specialists but right now we have had so many finanicial difficulties and have had to move so many times it's been hard to get things situated.
Meanwhile I'm waiting for the VA rule on my disability case for compensation and my husband is desperately looking for work.
I'm severely depressed myself again.
I know I have some mental health issues, I do my very best to ensure they do not impact my children, generally holding in my tears and frustrations until very late at night when I begin to feel anxiety and pure sadness at all that's gone on with us in the last few months (again, my profile, check out my threads if you want to or haven't).
And I'm rambling on and on but I have ever so much on my mind right now and feel very much alone because I've burdened my husband enough, okay he says it's not a burden but I feel like it is.
And I have no friends.
Or family now.
Except for my ILs and the living situation is creating a certain amount of stress for us all.
Okay this is going off topic.
Sorry.
I've added you (Butterfly) to my AIM list. I'd be happy to talk to you about anything you want -- the subject is very dear to me. Tonight is NOT good, because I am actually beginning a workshop tomorrow with a new child, and I have a lot of preparation left to do. (Wish me luck! lol) But other than that, I'm usually online very often. Feel free to add me as well.
I totally respet what you just said.Originally Posted by ForJazz
I'm sorry shengmei, but I have to jump in. For someone who claims to have AS, you are making a lot of incorrect statements and outrageous generalizations. And you definitely shouldn't be giving this woman medical advice or diagnosing her ex as you are in no way qualified for that. NO ONE can just read about Asperger's and say they have those symptoms and just diagnose themselves or others. It goes much deeper than that -- the purest diagnosis is made when the person does not know they are being evaluated. It's how people act when they are not aware of it. And your opinion does not change the fact that AS is classified as a Pervasive Developmental Disorder.
Butterfly, I'd be happy to talk with you anytime. I am a Senior Therapist for the Wisconsin Early Autism Project, and I've worked with about 40 children in the surrounding areas. The majority had classic autism, but I worked with several children with AS and PDD-NOS (otherwise known as the blanket diagnosis) as well. I have to say -- I have always loved the children I work with as if they were my own, but most of those that I completely identified with 100% had AS. Feel free to contact me -- I have a feeling my words will become twisted if I post them publicly.
If you remember my threapist perscribed 2.5 milligrams (1/4 pills) per day of Lexpro last August. He was thinking I had Aspergers back then and he wanted to started me on a low-dosage regimen of Lexipro because people don't really know if the biochemical pathways of Lexipro would interfere with the Aspergers.
I eventually dropped the Lexipro because I was feeling totally numb on it, and it scared the heck out of me. I also learned about its interactions with Aspergers.
I am not sure about the dateline. For all I know it was probably conflicting. I had two therapists back then.
When people are ailing they generally try to learn about what afflicts them as much as possible.
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I got 48 on the adult test not a big shocker ... but I do need to see a therispist so a correct DX can be made...
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I know what I have wrong with me personally. So I don't need to take that test the military did psychological testing on me right before my discharge to start a medical board so I could pursue the VA for disability.
I've listed that elsewhere....I'm sure.
If I haven't just pm me and ask...but it's floating about these threads somewhere.
I struggle with alot myself.
Just alot of times, she makes things difficult cause things have to be a specific way and now with the move and the changes she is a bit testy to say the least. I've got to get a routine back...somehow.
I've listed that elsewhere....I'm sure.
If I haven't just pm me and ask...but it's floating about these threads somewhere.
I struggle with alot myself.
Just alot of times, she makes things difficult cause things have to be a specific way and now with the move and the changes she is a bit testy to say the least. I've got to get a routine back...somehow.
