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My vet does a 2-yr rabies vaccination, and it's accepted by law as far as I know. Where does it say you have to get it done yearly?
 

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Originally Posted by gizmocat

But I'll do what the vet recommends.
Careful with that. Many vets will tell you that to get your money and many are just old fashioned and don't stay up with recent studies (like vets with food and nutrition, I wouldn't recommend always listening to vets when they recommend foods). Listen to what the vet says and then consider the options carefully. Many vets over vaccinate and they will never tell you the problems with over vaccinating. Plus many do it mainly to get the owner to bring the cat in for a checkup. Most people don't do yerly checkups because if their cat seems healthy they must be.
 

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Originally Posted by Beccory

My vet does a 2-yr rabies vaccination, and it's accepted by law as far as I know. Where does it say you have to get it done yearly?
it depends on local state law. for my state the first rabies shot is good for one year and every one after that is good for three years.
 

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There is a rabies vaccine that's certified for one year, and a rabies vaccine that's certified for three years. It's the certification that determines what meets the legal requirement. Be sure to keep the rabies certificate you get from the vet. You'll need it to license your pet, and in case your pet bites anyone.
 

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Originally Posted by coaster

There is a rabies vaccine that's certified for one year, and a rabies vaccine that's certified for three years. It's the certification that determines what meets the legal requirement. Be sure to keep the rabies certificate you get from the vet. You'll need it to license your pet, and in case your pet bites anyone.
hmmm, my vet uses the exact same vaccine for the one year and for the three year. it is not a seperate vaccine, at least at my vet.
 

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That is correct; it's the same vaccine. The three-year vaccine just has three times the dose. And that's why the three-year vaccine has a much higher incidence of vaccine-induced sarcoma. It's safer to give a cat three one-year vaccinations every year for three years than to give one three-year vaccination once every three years.

The one-year and three-year certifications are by the manufacturer of the vaccine. It has nothing to do with the vet's preferences on the subject.
 

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Originally Posted by coaster

That is correct; it's the same vaccine. The three-year vaccine just has three times the dose. And that's why the three-year vaccine has a much higher incidence of vaccine-induced sarcoma. It's safer to give a cat three one-year vaccinations every year for three years than to give one three-year vaccination once every three years.

The one-year and three-year certifications are by the manufacturer of the vaccine. It has nothing to do with the vet's preferences on the subject.
i just called my vet to double check. there is absolutely no difference between the one year and three year vaccines. the three year is NOT three times the dose. it is only in the way the state law is written that it needs to be done after the first year after the first vaccine and every three years after that.
 

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Originally Posted by coaster

That is correct; it's the same vaccine. The three-year vaccine just has three times the dose. And that's why the three-year vaccine has a much higher incidence of vaccine-induced sarcoma. It's safer to give a cat three one-year vaccinations every year for three years than to give one three-year vaccination once every three years.

The one-year and three-year certifications are by the manufacturer of the vaccine. It has nothing to do with the vet's preferences on the subject.
This is what I understood from three different vets... but around here all I can get is the three year...
 

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ok, i just called two more vets and the local humane society and they all verified the information i posted above and said they use fort dodge vaccines. so maybe the places you got your information from are using a vaccine from a different source?
 

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Originally Posted by jaycee

ok, i just called two more vets and the local humane society and they all verified the information i posted above and said they use fort dodge vaccines. so maybe the places you got your information from are using a vaccine from a different source?
Farnem I think is the common one .. Ft Dodge is usually livestock but I will be verifing
 

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That is unfortunately not true. Smallpox vaccinations that were given in your childhood are no longer active.
 

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Originally Posted by jaycee

the only human vaccine i know of that declines over time is tetanus, and thats after 10 years minimum. all the ones (hepatitas, polio, mmr, etc) are good for life after you get the three boosters or whatever
Apparently there's some controversy over this. We really don't know how long these vaccines are good for. It's not known (but hotly debated) how long the memory cells that allow a quick immune response can live.
 

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The information I posted is from my vet. I have no explanation for the discrepancy and I don't know who is the manufacturer of the vaccine she uses. Perhaps it's the difference between the killed-virus type vaccine and the live-virus type vaccine. What I've read elsewhere online is that the one and three-year vaccines are the same, and that the difference was just the certification (which agrees with what has been said here.) So I'm still as confused or more so than anyone else.
A definitive answer from an authoritative source would be welcome. I don't have any reason to doubt that my vet knows what she's talking about, and she has no reason to lie to me (I don't think.) But she's only human, so.......
 

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OK, I think I've got this straight, now, after calling my vet again. She uses PureVax by Merial, which is a live-virus vaccine. The one-year and three-year vaccines are NOT the same; however, the difference is not the amount of virus in the vaccine, it's that the three-year vaccine is a killed-virus vaccine and it has an added "adjuvant" (sp?) which is an agent that causes the vaccine to remain in the skin for a longer period of time, which gives it the longer protection. And it's this added adjuvant and the longer duration in the skin that causes the added risk of vaccine-induced sarcoma with the three-year vaccine.

They weren't familiar with the Fort Dodge vaccine mentioned in an earlier post, so weren't able to compare the two.

Regardless of vaccine type, it's the certification that the law requires here. If you have a three-year certification you can go three years between rabies vaccinations. If you have a one-year certification and go beyond the one year, then you're in trouble if your cat bites someone, and also you can't get a cat licensed.

I choose to get rabies vaccination yearly because of the lower risk of sarcoma.

PS - sorry for the incorrect information posted earlier about the dosage; that's the way I understood my vet's explanation at the time.
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

Farnem I think is the common one .. Ft Dodge is usually livestock but I will be verifing
fort dodge is very commonly used in cats and dogs, its the most common one known of at the dog forum i belong to (dog.com)
 

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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

Jennifer,
Fort Dodge is a common maker of vaccines for cats and dogs, another common brand is/was Eclipse (from the days when I did my own vaccinations). Just checked..yup..fel-o-vax which is what the animal hospital I worked at years ago used, is made by Fort Dodge:

http://www.revivalanimal.com/categor...ine%20Vaccines
my kitten was given 3 rounds of eclipse4 at the pound, what is in that?

she also received NFVRCP?

she was given all of that by the time she was 8 weeks old, i hope that isnt all vaccines.
 

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wow i just clicked on your link and saw the eclipse 4...... thats a LOT of vaccines to pack into all at once. and 3 round of it by 8 weeks..... isnt that waaaay too much too soon?

she was born on may 30th

on june 20th this note was added to her chart: Ec4/NFVRCP wormed

on july 6th she got another eclipse 4, wormed again, and had advantage applied

on july 27th she got another eclipse 4 and wormed again
 

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My understanding of proper vaccine protocol was to begin at about 8 weeks...just looked up Alix - she had 3 sets of what I call upper resp vaccines (for panleukopenia, rhinotracheitis and calicivirus) at 8, 11 and 15 weeks. Here is a suggested schedule (though for the record, I personally came to believe the felv vaccine was not one I wanted to use and stopped using it years ago):
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/article.cfm?aid=86

Of course they say this is just a guide, and it may be affected both by health of the cat, likelihood of exposure and other factors.
 

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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

Jennifer,
Fort Dodge is a common maker of vaccines for cats and dogs, another common brand is/was Eclipse (from the days when I did my own vaccinations). Just checked..yup..fel-o-vax which is what the animal hospital I worked at years ago used, is made by Fort Dodge:

http://www.revivalanimal.com/categor...ine%20Vaccines
Pat
Thank you ... You can see I havent studied up about vacs...
 
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