Pregnant Agian :(

They are absolutely beautiful! She does look a little wide and when our kittens were that age Ethel was pretty skinny but you can never tell.

I understand the concern about having them close together but I could never do that to my cat. As long as the vet feels she is healthy to continue then she should hopefully be fine.

Maybe wean the new babies a little sooner and I was under the impression that you could spay while there was still milk???

I dont understand. Why does she HAVE to get the cat spayed? I understand that it's bad that the litters are so close together but doesnt the fact that both the parens are purebred and papered have everything to do with it? Doesnt that mean she can sell the kittens for around $400? I know it wasnt intentional and all but other than the fact that the litters are too close together what would be wrong with her being pregnant?

Originally Posted by Kinsey's Pet

I dont understand. Why does she HAVE to get the cat spayed? I understand that it's bad that the litters are so close together but doesnt the fact that both the parens are purebred and papered have everything to do with it? Doesnt that mean she can sell the kittens for around $400? I know it wasnt intentional and all but other than the fact that the litters are too close together what would be wrong with her being pregnant?

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some more experianced people could probably answer this better but my cat was in the exact some situation where i thought she was pg and if i would have waited until her milk dried up she would have been about 6 weeks and for my vet that is too late. the fact that the pregnancies are so close together have EVERYTHING to do with it. the problem is the health of the mama cat and kittens. there is just a greater chance of kittens ending up malnourished or something gong wrong. the mama and the daddy cat being pure bred dont really have anything to do with her health. yeah its a bonus but things could still go wrong with pregnancies so close together. like in humans, you wouldent get pg then have the baby then get pg 2 months later would you? ( i hope that didnt sound mean... it wasnt supposed to have ) did that help any?

its just better not to risk it but if it has to be done then it has to be done. i know it is a hard choice Sydney. i almost had to make the same one. thank God she wasnt pg though. Your mama cat is in my thoughts.

Kinsey's pet - the fact that both parents are pedigreed and papered means nothing unless she has breeding rights for both - and doesn't alter the fact that she should be spayed regardless. If she hasn't, then they have been sold as pet quality kittens (and unless the pics aren't that good quality, mum doesn't look like a good quality bengal) and should'nt be bred from, as the point of breeding is to improve the breed, and breeding pet quality wont. Breeding from pet quality cats and selling them at £400 is pretty much back yard breeding sadly, and that is what gives breeder bad names - it isn't supposed to be about getting loads of money per kitten. And as Jessie says, the health risks in two back to back litters is immense - there is a risk that some of the kittens wont make it as the mum wont have enough reserves to provide for them, there is more risk of them having to be hand reared as mum can't cope, etc.

I hope your kitty isn't pregnant and I just wanted to say those kittens are absolutely gorgeous I am in love with Bengals

Thanks for all the replies and the concern.
Im really hoping she isnt pregnant.

Ive heard late term termination of a litter was harder on the Momma, can someone explain to me why and what happens so i have a better understanding of how it will effect her if i do spay her late term. Im really thinking about it.

Wether Momma is a good quality Bengal I dont know. All I know is she has papers, she is the best cat and best Momma, and I personally think she looks more like an Ocicat.(We have an Ocicat at home and they look so much alike except my Ocicat is larger.)

I definetly wouldnt want to give birth just to give birth agian 2 months later, though my mom did that sort of having my sitster and I 10 months apart.lol Anyways Im very concerned for her health and I'll discuss it more with my vet when i go into work today.

Her babies were 8 weeks yesterday, can i wean them completly now? They have their own room so i can keep Momma with me?

Thanks everyone, I'll keep you all updated on her condition.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Thanks for all the replies and the concern.
Im really hoping she isnt pregnant.

Ive heard late term termination of a litter was harder on the Momma, can someone explain to me why and what happens so i have a better understanding of how it will effect her if i do spay her late term. Im really thinking about it.

Wether Momma is a good quality Bengal I dont know. All I know is she has papers, she is the best cat and best Momma, and I personally think she looks more like an Ocicat.(We have an Ocicat at home and they look so much alike except my Ocicat is larger.)

I definetly wouldnt want to give birth just to give birth agian 2 months later, though my mom did that sort of having my sitster and I 10 months apart.lol Anyways Im very concerned for her health and I'll discuss it more with my vet when i go into work today.

Her babies were 8 weeks yesterday, can i wean them completly now? They have their own room so i can keep Momma with me?

Thanks everyone, I'll keep you all updated on her condition.

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Sydney....I appreciate how you are sharing your story with other members who might find themselves in a similiar situation. Late term spay isn't recommended as it does have the potential for more health issues for mom. The clinic I volunteer with does perform late term spays...but we are working with feral cats that live outdoors..not housecats that have a home.

Personally, I would talk to your vet. Many vets will not perform a late term spay and although I can appreciate the potential risks associated with having 2 litters so close together...I'd also be just as concerned about spaying a mom cat who is very far along in her pregnancy. Since the pregnancy has not been confirmed...let's hope that she isn't pregnant. But i would have a heart to heart with your vet. Again..just my opinion.

As far as the kittens weaning from mom...you could always try the tubesock recommendation that Gaye provides (cutting off the end of a tubesock and placing it over mom's belly so the kittens can't get to her nipples). If you do do this....I'd love to see a picture of mom with her little girdle.

Katie

Im going to get Momma spayed, but im curious how long does it take for milk to dry up? I can seperate the kittens from Momma, the kittens have their own room and Momma is in the living room.

Or should i keep them all together and cover momma with a sock?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Sydney

Im going to get Momma spayed, but im curious how long does it take for milk to dry up? I can seperate the kittens from Momma, the kittens have their own room and Momma is in the living room.

Or should i keep them all together and cover momma with a sock?

Thanks!

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My understanding is it can be 2-3 weeks. I would try the sock first because I do believe kittens should be with their mom until they are placed.

Katie

Sydney, you have no idea how much this has helped me. Kitty has 10 week old kittens and the other day i felt a baby moving in Kitty. now i am sure it is a kitten and not gas. only one though thank God. i thought she wasnt pregnant but apparently she is. that means she has about 2 weeks left. i dont think i'm going to spay since she is so far along. if this was just 2 or 3 weeks ago i would have it done. Kitty is due around the 14th so (BTW sorry for the thread hijacking) i'm pretty sure we will have a vet appt. set up maybe this week. keep her in you prayers that everything goes well.

keep us updated on how it goes with the spaying. your mama cat is in my prayers.

If she just had a litter and is pregnant again, that is way too hard on her body/system. I'd talk to the vet about getting her spayed and not letting her have the 2nd litter too close. It will cost more for the spay if she is pregnant, but it would be healthier.

Just neutered males can get females pregnant about 30 days after neutering - he sounds like he had his "last" shot at fatherhood!

i'm not going to get her spayed because she is like 7 weeks preg. i'll get her spayed when the next one is weaned.

Originally Posted by JESSIEnKITTY

i'm not going to get her spayed because she is like 7 weeks preg. i'll get her spayed when the next one is weaned.

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Jessie...just prepare yourself if these kittens aren't as healthy as her last litter due to being so close to the last litter. I hope all goes well.

Katie

Originally Posted by Kinsey's Pet

I dont understand. Why does she HAVE to get the cat spayed? I understand that it's bad that the litters are so close together but doesnt the fact that both the parens are purebred and papered have everything to do with it? Doesnt that mean she can sell the kittens for around $400? I know it wasnt intentional and all but other than the fact that the litters are too close together what would be wrong with her being pregnant?

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If you know that "it is bad that the litters are so close together" but the fact that they are papered and purebred and they can be sold for $400 makes you want to forget about the risk and go through with it anyway? So are you saying that putting the cats life at jeopardy to make a little extra money is a good idea? Sorry if I misunderstood you but that is what it sounded like. That is why it is recommended to spay the cat, because of two litters so close together, it is a big risk on all their lives for a cat to have such close litters. Breeders are not breeding to make money either. They don't make money, with all the vet bills and upkeep of their cattery.

Does the vet have access to an ultrasound? Pregnancy can be confirmed with US a lot sooner as compared to radiographs.

I would definitely talk it over with your vet a little more. The main complications with a pregnant mom is the fact that there tends to be a larger blood supply to the uterus, which causes more blood loss. However, as long as she is adequately monitored and given fluids to help boost blood pressure, she should do fine. They can also spay her if she is not fully dried up, but that is a personal choice on whether they feel comfortable or not.

A lot of it depends on what the vet is comfortable or uncomfortable to do.

Good luck!

Wow, she had a huge litter, didn't she. That alone would probably take a lot out of her healthwise, if she's pregnant again. I hope she's not, because I'd hate to see her life at risk. Did you get breeding rights with her or the father? I would assume you didn't, as she does look like a pet quality Bengal. Even pet quality Bengal's are expensive. However, I don't know if you can give pedigree papers to the new owners of the kittens, if you don't have breeding rights. I would get her spayed as soon as it is safe for her to do so, because you don't want her going into heat again, even if she doesn't have access to an intact male.

As far as selling the kittens you already do have, I would certainly charge more than $25, because they are Bengals. I paid a huge amount of money for Simba and I didn't get breeding rights with him, but I did get his pedigree and papers.

Well whatever happens... good luck. I'm sending vibes for both your momma kitty and you

"As far as selling the kittens you already do have, I would certainly charge more than $25, because they are Bengals. I paid a huge amount of money for Simba and I didn't get breeding rights with him, but I did get his pedigree and papers."

The 25$ is to ensure that kitten dealers and hoarders and people who want bait for their pitbull don't get them. If you want to charge more, you could have them all spayed or neutered and charge the price of the operation and give them the vet records for it. These kittens are from an accidental breeding and the OP has no desire to make money from it, and good for her! Doing so would make her a backyard breeder, when she is someone who has an accidental pregnancy.

No one cat is worth more than any other cat. The purchase price may be different, but so are insurance adjustors values for people who have a college degree. We are talking about adopting out kittens from an accidental breeding. The fact that the mother and father of this breeding happen to be purebred is actually pretty irrelevant.

Sydney, talk to your vet. That is my advice. If you want to have her spayed fine, if you don't and you aren't comfortable with that, that is fine to, but the fact of the matter is, it is your opinion, your decision, and YOU have to live with the decision you make and no one else. So, with that said, do what is absolutely right in your heart. You have a beautiful baby and she has beautiful babies, but just let the decision be yours and yours alone because everyone has an opinion, but you will be the one to have to live with the choice
I'm also like the other girl. I truly wish you lived close to me because I'd sure take one, papered or not, that are georgous bambinos!

I guess some didnt see my recent reply, but im getting her spayed.

She is defintly pregnant, her stomach is getting bigger and bigger. I've tried the sock thing and the sock was too tight around her body.

I dont know what to do though,wait and let her milk dry up and take a chance with a late term spay, or dont let her milk dry up and take her in this week for a spay.

Im just not sure which to do.
The babies will be 9 week tomorow and they hardly nurse, but there are times she nurses all 7.

If it was your cat in this situation would you wait two more weeks for the milk to dry up and then have a poss late term spay/abortion, or dont let the milk dry up and take her in this week for spay?