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post #421 of 973
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I am half dead today. I worked way too hard. But I nearly have the land ready..... It is taking more than I thought. I have to get it clear so I can throughly treat it for ticks and stuff. I put a few big tree trunks in it for them....

Here's a progress pic.... The ground has probably NEVER been exposed before. It has been in a natural state for as long as they woods have been there. This week clearing it, grass is already growing. The ground/dirt is very rich... And for some reason not as rocky as the front. Which I might add is rock free now. The last two weeks have been rough as far as clearning, cleaning and de-rocking for spring and lawn mower season. The enclosure is going to go to the large tree in the left part of the pic. The one leaning to the left. The big tree with the rocks around it is going to be in the enclosure. The new area measured out is approx 20 x 35-40. We are doing wide and not long so we can put 20 feet of dog yard behind the cats. The dogs will have three side of the cat area in their yard. The only part that won't be connected to the dogs is the front, which is in our front yard. After the cats are done, we are clearing the other land for the dogs so their yard will be larger too... That is our summer project. And also... if anyone who has read previous stuff, this was the "outhouse area" and this is the area of the woods that were behind it..... It looks so good now.. It had many back breaking hrs put into it and there are many more to come. Hubby wishes he could help me but he just can't right now. He brings me water and tells me to take breaks. He told me today I am tenacious.....

And here's Charlie hound today.. They love watching me work. I have already prepared the back yard for new grass.....

And my molly.. She has always ran off when we let her out but eventually comes back. Today I let her out solo with me off leash. She promply ran off down the dirt road where a 5 lb dog ran her back home.... hehe.. I am serious.

Didnt' 'take any of emma.... She was out with me.

And this is the future dog yard where we are expanding them. They get all of this and then their yard will loop behind the enclosure and on around to the other side.... I feel comfortable with that.

And here is Yellow Man waking from his nap...... He can't wait for his enclosure to be larger... He is one of the reasons for the enclosure. He likes to take 6 week vacations. He will never be loose again... He is a rough old tomcat but he is very sweet. He sleeps with hubby every night snuggled up...

Spring has sprung.......

ok.......... that's all for today......

See ya all, Jenn
post #422 of 973
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I've also done this this week.......... This is the front yard....... We harvest rocks... I guess that's why we live in Stone County.....hehe

This was a killer........ I had to do this too for mowing purposes.... I did not do it last year when we bought this place. There were too many other things to do. This is why the enclosure area is moving slowly..... It should pick up now.

But.......... check out these rocks.... Snake heaven... We will never clear back here.
post #423 of 973
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For a comparison.........

This is the cat enclosure area before anything was done with the old outhouse..... The big cedar tree behind it is the tree that is going to be in their enclosure a couple posts above this one. So much work......

AND NO!! We never used it...... hehe But the previous owners did. They had no plumbing or water. Before we moved in and before the septic and well was installed, I had a 5 gallon bucket....... hehe

Major difference....

I lost the first pics I had of the house and yard when it was at it's worse. I sure hate that. Before and after always makes ya feel good.
post #424 of 973
Jenn, you have done an amazing job.
I got tired just looking at the pictures!!

Charlie looks so happy in those pictures, he's one luckly little man.
With those stubby little legs I wonder if he has some Bassett Hound in him?
I can't remember the name of the little dog with him, she's a cute little thing though.
Molly has such a sweet face.

Yellow man is a handsome boy, he looks so soft and cuddley.
post #425 of 973
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Muffin is the little girl with him....... And we have always thought Charlie was part Bassett..... When he initially saw him, that was our first thought. He's a cute little guy. He is laying behind my chair right now.

He'll probably stay........ They seem to be doing better.
post #426 of 973
Good on you Jenn, they will all have a fantastic summer!!
post #427 of 973
Originally Posted by jcribbs View Post
Muffin is the little girl with him....... And we have always thought Charlie was part Bassett..... When he initially saw him, that was our first thought. He's a cute little guy. He is laying behind my chair right now.

He'll probably stay........ They seem to be doing better.

You are doing a great job Jenn, your yard looks great.

I am glad about Charlie too
post #428 of 973
I'm so glad Charlie is getting along better with his Sisters!
post #429 of 973
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ok................ Charlie charlie charlie.........

He tried to bite me while ago over a chewy....... All I did was pet his head which is nothing new. This is not working. He has slowly become more and more agressive....... Just when I think all is goign to be ok......

but it's not ok.......

I am heartsick......... I' can't do this... not the biting. I'm going to bed. Will discuss it tomorrow......
post #430 of 973
I am sorry to hear that Jenn, has Charlie been to the doctor or anything lately, maybe something is going on with him. He was so loving when you first got him. I just don't understand it.
post #431 of 973
Jenn, I do hope you can sort something out, do you know anyone without any pets who would be able to take him on? LSULover - this does happen occasionally, when I got my second cat, she was all over me in the rescue (she had only been there a day), yet I ended up looking like I was into self harming the majority of hte time I had her, and she beat my other cat up as well (he came after her) - part of hers was food related with being a stray, she was very on edge when her food bowl was empty.
post #432 of 973
Oh Jenn, I'm so sorry to hear that.

I can't remember if Charlie is neutered...if he's not maybe that's where some of the aggression is coming from.
post #433 of 973
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When I first got Charlie, he was fine but he has never been loving by any means...... He was happy to be in out of the cold. I think he would have liked or responded to anyone getting icicles off of him. Don't take me wrong but I am trying to be realistic here.

Charlie is a possessive animal. To the point of fighting over anything. I think it is in his breeding. A stick, a person, a chewy or space. He is very dominate. He tries to do what I want but his true personality is finally coming out. And he is agressive and dominate and he wants to be to over everything in our household. I felt or sensed this initially but there was nothing I could put my finger on. It was more in how he looked at things and I do mean looked at things [on a physical level]. He had a stance about him. He can't help it... Not sure how to explain it. He is not a waggy tail kind of dog. He is serious and firm if that makes sense. The times I have corrected him for behavior about anything... he stands there and looks at me hard. He does not respond like most dogs do to correction OR to praise.

He is not neutered. However, that makes absolutely not difference as far as I am concerned. I cannot and will not have an agressive dog toward me.

I am not sure if I am going to try and find his previous owners or take him to a shelter. I have already called our local shelter and they are full. They gave us the number to the one in Cassville, MO. He was not in bad shape physically. There is one neighborhood we did not knock on door in, in that area. Charlie runs aways when loose. It is possible someone put a tight collar on him to pee and he broke it. He might not have been an abused dog. He did not appear to have been abused. He had a tight collar and had icicles on his belly and feet. I am not taking Charlie with us when we got look however. If someone says they are the owner and it is a horrible place, they will never get him. I will not abandon him to a bad situation.. I care about Charlie in spite of everything.

One more little note on this:
When I got up this morning Emma was in the house and Juan told me he had brought Emma in because Charlie had her by the throat and they were fighting.

He wants to reign ...... and my mind is made up.... He will have to go.
post #434 of 973
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We are leaving for work early to drive a certain neighborhood and see if anyone knows Charlie.... I would rather find a home for him than take him to a shelter.

I don't like shelters..........even no kill ones. I have two dogs that came from shelters. Emma has a permanent scar on her tail that was untreated at a shelter and Molly has crooked hips from laying on concrete for over a year.

I'm sure some do as good as they can but none are an ideal situation.

And it would bother me to think Charlie might be in a cage looking for me..... It's more than I can take.

I have to be matter of fact about this or I will break down. And I already feel slightly crumbly..... I feel so bad about this.. I have tried....... I really have. I am already crying but must keep this is perspective.

When I get home from work, I will post the outcome of finding Charlie's owners.... I am going to take a digital pic of him with me.
post #435 of 973
Jen, you might find he is less aggressive when he is neutered, surely it is worth a chance?
post #436 of 973
That was my thinking too.

I know my Sister has a Jack Russell and he was very aggressive towards everyone and everything until he was neutered.
I'm scared to death of dogs in general and even I hold him...I wouldn't have went near him before he was neutered.

I'm in no way trying to pass judgement on you, because after all you're the ones who live with him day in and day out...I just knew how much my Sisters dog changed when he was neutered and wondered if maybe it might change Charlie's behavior also.
post #437 of 973
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To me, it is not worth a chance. Basically it is due to everything concerning charlie. It is not just one thing.

Me and the agression. The cats and the agression. And the dogs and the agression.

I am at work right now and we drove through a really nice neighborhood that is 1/2 mile or so from where we found charlie called Fox Trot.

We went to one house and on the porch was a fat little tiny puppy with legs exactly like charlies. It was a little black dog with white legs that were speckled. Juan said it looked like a replacement dog. There were toys scattered about. They had kids. We left a note with our phone number on the door. We feel this was Charlie's home. It was a goat farmer in the country with peacocks and guineas. But this pup, except for a few markings looked like a baby version of Charlie. A huge house with a wrap around porch and NO CATS.
post #438 of 973
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I just got home from work. We left messages on several doors about Charlie. One lady called us. I will call them in the mornin and see what they have to say.
post #439 of 973
Good luck with the calls - except from what you have said, I wouldnt' trust him where there are kids. I would still get him neutered before you let anyone take him though, just so you know he has been done, and there is no chance he will be left to re-populate.
post #440 of 973
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Well, the lady called back and told us LAST FALL she has lost a little black/white boy dog.... knee high dog.

Juan got her email address and I sent her pictures of Charlie.

If what she is saying is true, it is possible she lost her dog last fall, and someone else found him and he broke loose and was trying to get back home when we found him.

We won't know till we hear back from her.

I would rather find him a home than for him to become a pound pup.

I have my fingers crossed. The woman that called is elderly.
post #441 of 973
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Wel, Charlie was not their dog. I am making some signs tonight at work. We are going to post them within a 5 mile area where we found him.

In the meantime, he is being a very good watchdog... He is like a first alert system.....
post #442 of 973
Sending you and Charlie hugs and prayers from Mississippi Jenn, I know this is killing you, and I also know that you are doing what you feel you need to do too.

I am praying that everything works out for you and for Charlie.

Love, Belinda
post #443 of 973
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He tried to bite me again last night...... I had told him no about snapping at the cats and he came at me over it....... It really unnerved me as he is a strong little dog. Emma and Molly just sat there and watched and looked sad. I got them both down last night and looked them over and they both have scabs under their hair on their neck from being bit.

I was shaken by the incident last night. Much worse than last time. He lunged at me growling and biting at the air. If I had not physically moved he would have bit me. I waited a few mintues, approached him easily and then picked him up and put him in the crate. We called the pound and they are full. We have to get him out of the house hold and dont' know what to do.

He is going to end up hurting something. At first I was worried about how all this would effect him, but now I am more worried about how this is effecting the rest of us. My sweet baby dogs are miserable having to defent themselves and now I am in the same situation. Juan has only witnessed the animal anamosity and not the human end of things. He goes to bed much earlier than I do.

Charlie really wants to bite me over correcting him. He really does and it wipes me out .....

He is not a huge dog by any standards but he is definately wanting to be in charge of everything. And he can be scary. He is able to wrestle and win with 100 lb dogs without getting a mark.

I am thinking now that someone probably did dump him for being agressive......... They might have cared for him physically but he got no emotional nurturing. When you pick him up, he is stiff.... He has never been held much. Possibly never held. He doesn't know how to relax in your arms. He never relaxes......

We are on a waiting list for the pound in Cassville. They told us it would take months for an opening to come available. The one here local is absolutely full...... I cannot take him to a kill shelter and I could never dump him. It is a bad situation and not sure what to do. I have thought about cross fencing out yard till we find him some other situation. And then when we got to work, we won't have to worry about our dogs getting in a fight and getting hurt.

Charlie .......... needs a fenced yard and to be the only dog/animal in the household. He needs one person only in his life. He would protect them to the end........ but he does not share easily.... and he does not give up. He is progressively getting much worse in his bahavior regarding aggression.

I'm going to go and count t-posts and see how much wire I have laying around. And see what I would have to do to make him a makeshift shelter when he is separated.
post #444 of 973
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I can't think about Charlie anymore so I have been working on my enclosure today. Most of the post holes are dug.......

Here's the OFFICIAL PLANS....... Husband approves......

I cant wait to see it completed........ The cats are goign to love it. What I like best is the one side is going to made in such a way that we can expand in 10 feet increments when we want.

The neighbors came up the other day when we were working outside and sat for a bit in the road talking. He has lived down the way for many years. He asked us if we had seen the wolverine yet........... [chit]..... He said there is ONE running around here and to be careful. It was reported to the dept of conservation since it is a rarity. He said he has seen lots of black bear. I cant' wait to see a bear in it's natural habitat... He also said they have turned wolves loose out here but they won't admit it. He said the howling we hear are the wolves and not coyotes.
post #445 of 973
Maybe you have seen the wolverine.
I wonder if that's what was on your porch eating and sleeping this winter?
post #446 of 973
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And thank you Belinda for your support. It means a lot. It seems my failure with Charlie is making people not want to talk to me anymore. But that's ok...... because you are right. I have to do what is best for the group..... Everyone may not agree but I have to do what I have to do...... I just don't know what they is yet.

I don't regret saving him...... I wish things were different but they are not.

In the meantime, life goes on.........
post #447 of 973
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I just don't know gracie....... I looked wolverines up and it says they are very determined eaters and very tenacious hunters........

Husband said they can be very dangerous..... I hope it wasn't what was on the porch.

I forgot to tell yall, I did see a big yellow tom in the woods. He is not wild however as he does let us pet him. He's not fixed however. But he belongs somewhere. He "might" have been eating..... It might have been several things. I still keep food out and it takes several days for a large bowl to disappear.

Also........... whatever was eating, was not sleeping in my makeshift bed in the wood burning stove. The neighbor said the wolverine was the size of my lab-dog. It said it was pretty big. That puts a different light on the "night eyes" I saw....

As soon as we can afford it, we are getting some solar lights for the nighttime to light up our yard.....

I bought some $50.00 windchimes today. Husband nearly flipped but the sure are pretty. I told him "the sound" might scare critters away...... hehe

I want to buy some pipe and make some HUGE 6 foot windchimes and put by the creek. I love the sound of them..... My philosophy is... if the animals [cats or dogs] ever get out and get lost, the sound will lead them home.........
post #448 of 973
I've always heard that wolverines were nasty little critters too, so it probably wasn't what was on your porch.
Maybe it was the yellow Tom cat?

Speaking of nasty critters, last night when Mason put the garbage out to the curb there were two possums walking down the middle of the road and he said he heard them hissing before he saw them.
It kind of makes me wonder, because it wasn't dark out yet.
I hope to God they aren't rabid.
Mason called the Game Commissioner and they told him they'd come and set traps...so far I haven't seen any traps and something tells me I won't!
Then a couple of hours later I looked out the window and one of them was sitting on the outside window sill looking in our house.
It gave me the creeps, all I could think of was that movie "Cujo".
Mason told me I was nuts, he said he didn't think a possum was going to break the window to get in!
post #449 of 973
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awwwww..... Possums as a rule never get rabies. It's ok Gracie.... Their body temp is too low for the rabies virus to live..... Raccoons are another story.

I love possums........ I had a little family of possums that used to eat on my porch..... I named one of them Katie.... I wanted to bring her when we moved becasue she was so sweet. You can tame a possum.

Cats accept possums. Katie used to eat with the cats on the porch......

Here's Katie.......
post #450 of 973
That's a load off my mind.
I had these visions of rabid possums running up and down our street!

I don't think they'd bother me as much if they didn't have those long rat like tails!

Katie is cute though!
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