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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
We have a total of 7 cats 4 females, 3 males , we recently got the mommy cat and two of the young male cats declawed, after we brought them home the other 3 young female began " hissing and growling at them,and at us, all day everyday. before that petvet day, they prrrr and let us picked them up, and they were so loveable. Could it be their new scent? or....
post #2 of 24
First of all, it's VERY sad that you got your cats declawed - that's like cutting off the top parts oif your fingers!

However, it may be that your cats just don't recognize the others because of the vet scent on them. Try putting a dab of vanilla on the backs of their necks.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
I know, i know, about the declawing, but our new furniture looks like its bleeding clouds. i will try the vanilla ideas, sound like it might work. ty, i'll let you know how it turns out. kaspy
post #4 of 24
Well, sheez, you don't have to declaw... just clip their claws or put rubber claw protectors on their claws. Ask your vet about those. Just for reference, next time you get a cat. It saves you money, saves the cat pain... good thing all around.

Separate them for now to avoid fights... certainly since a newly declawed cat can't defend itself even as well as one who has been declawed for a while.

Also try Comfort Zone... it smells like "happy cat" to them apparently, and calms them down.
post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by KaspY
I know, i know, about the declawing, but our new furniture looks like its bleeding clouds.
Is your furniture more important than your cat's health and welfare? I wish you had come here before having your cats declawed.

Welcome anyway
post #6 of 24
I'm unclear as to whether it's your declawed cats who are hissing and growling or if it's the other cats. If it's the recently declawed cats who are becoming aggressive, you just have to hope you haven't caused this by having them declawed, and whatever you do you cannot "surrender" them because it's your fault they have behavioral problems.
If it's the other cats, it probably is just the smell and hopefully it will subside as the other cats begin to smell like they used to.

Try some feliway plug-ins (keeps the cats from smelling each other) if the vanilla doesn't work. If they are actually fighting, separate them until they've all calmed back down, you don't want to further compound the huge mistake you've already made by them getting in a fight and ripping open the holes where their claws were and bleeding profusely.

And please never never never declaw a cat ever again. If you think its necessary then you should only adopt cats who other people have already made the mistake of declawing and never get a cat who is still whole and then have all its toes amputated.
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
we have loveable cats, they never fight, each other, we sleep with our cats, 2 of them sleep undr the covers like humans, i been a cat lover for years...
post #8 of 24
Welcome Kaspy....sorry that you are getting flamed here before you even get started. I would definitely try merging the scents of your animals through the vanilla, or by rubbing them down with a some of your clothes (and then rubbing the resident cats). You could also try Feliway, which often helps to calm cats during introductions.

see you on the forums!
post #9 of 24
First off: Welcome to TCS

Second: I am sorry you felt the only answer to your problems was getting your babies declawed. Try searching on here for alternative answers to save the rest from this!

Third: To answer your question the vanilla works and rubbing your clothing on the works to. The cause is probably the different smell. The vet smell isn't what they are used to so they don't realize its the same cat that left and came back!

See you on the forums!
post #10 of 24
KaspY I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I have no doubt that you love your cats. I just hope you understand what you've had done to them and why it's wrong.

Let us know how everything works out. I would guess that even without trying the vanilla or feliway suggested by everyone that they'll settle back in as the smell of their ordeal wears off.
post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 
When i was in grade school, i order all the new kitten posters every other week and hanged them on my walls. at that time i had out door cats. Now i know my cats are going through phases, thank you for helping me and supporting me. i should see changes through out the month.

the only cat we are keeping front claws on is our first cat, because he was our outside cat/ and still goes outside to scare any other cats away, He is a 16 pound cat name Jessi. He not the father of our kittens, But he acts like it. He is a good role model for the kittens, they love jessi
post #12 of 24
Does this mean you have three more that will be declawed?
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by KaspY
We have a total of 7 cats 4 females, 3 males , we recently got the mommy cat and two of the young male cats declawed, after we brought them home the other 3 young female began " hissing and growling at them,and at us, all day everyday. before that petvet day, they prrrr and let us picked them up, and they were so loveable. Could it be their new scent? or....
Did you have mom cat spayed at the same time so she won't get pregnant again??

Also....declawing is an extreme solution to a problem...and just like any elective surgery it CAN cause issues....litterbox avoidance, changes in personality, a reliance on biting. It is removal of part of the paw..not just the nail and cats that have had the procedure done can develop athritis in their paws. There are several things you can try before declawing the girls..there are nail caps that go over the nail and protect your furniture and the cat's nails. Trimming nails is also important as well as buying nice scratching posts.

Katie
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by KaspY
i been a cat lover for years...
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Originally Posted by KaspY
the only cat we are keeping front claws on is our first cat
I'm sorry to lay into you when you're new here but I find those 2 statements totally incompatable. Do you love your cats enough to let them keep their claws?

Given that you've posted on here asking for advice I assume you are prepared to listen to fellow posters, so I will say please do a search of the forum for the term "declawing" and read some recent threads on the subject. Follow the links provided and read up about every aspect of the procedure and the possible consequences of the procedure. Please try to understand why the majority of people who post here are vehemently against declawing (it is illegal where I live) and learn to love your cats the way they are.
post #15 of 24
KaspY,

As you can tell, most of our members feel very strongly about declawing. Indeed, because we are a cat welfare site, we even have a statement in our rules about declawing:

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This website considers declawing a drastic way to curb cat behavior. A painful ordeal for your kitty we would suggest that declawing never be considered for any behavioral issue. Health issues are entirely different. It is up to you as a responsible pet owner to explore all the different options available instead of declawing. Your cat is dependant on you to make wise choices for her, and not put her into any more stress or discomfort. Please be a responsible pet owner and research this subject thoroughly. Understand that if you are pro-declaw in your posts, you will encounter opposition. Please learn more about alternatives for declawing here in our forums as well as on our website itself. Declaw รขโ‚ฌโ€œ More Than Just a Manicure. Hopefully those of you with claw-related problems will find solutions by spending time in our Behavior Forum.
You also might want to read Rule #2
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2. Please make sure to spay and neuter your cat. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please educate yourself to the importance of spaying and neutering by the time your cat is 4-6 months old. By spaying and neutering you enhance your cat's quality of life and improve his or her health. You are also proving your love for cats because in acting as a responsible pet owner you are minimizing the problem of cat overpopulation.
For everyone, the topic of declawing has been discussed and our position is clear. Let's get back to the original concerns of KaspY and please keep your comments civil!

Thanks!
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by lotsocats
KaspY,

As you can tell, most of our members feel very strongly about declawing. Indeed, because we are a cat welfare site, we even have a statement in our rules about declawing:



You also might want to read Rule #2

For everyone, the topic of declawing has been discussed and our position is clear. Let's get back to the original concerns of KaspY and please keep your comments civil!

Thanks!

I think KaspY has gotten the idea of what TCS stands for after 10 replies with regards to declawing her cats.
I apologize for the hijack, but I think that this only needs to be said once as lotsofcats did: with the TCS rules in tact. I know if I had been attacked this way I wouldn't of had very much to say about TCS except that I wouldn't bother coming back because I would've felt harassed for what I did when I was trying to seek answers for something else.

She made a conscious choice and how do we know this wasn't her last resort to save the furniture?

**END HIJACK***
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by lunasmom

I think KaspY has gotten the idea of what TCS stands for after 10 replies with regards to declawing her cats.
I apologize for the hijack, but I think that this only needs to be said once as lotsofcats did: with the TCS rules in tact. I know if I had been attacked this way I wouldn't of had very much to say about TCS except that I wouldn't bother coming back because I would've felt harassed for what I did when I was trying to seek answers for something else.

She made a conscious choice and how do we know this wasn't her last resort to save the furniture?

**END HIJACK***
I agree with this. I am not an advocate of declawing, and I too oppose it. But I am also aware of the fact that KaspY lives in the U.S., and unfortunately, there are MANY MANY MANY vets who still support the practice in this country, and many still downplay the dangers and risks, and treat it like a routine operation, like spaying/neutering. It is easy for people to be misled by this idea, particularly when it comes to a family practitioner, such as a vet.

KaspY, there are many other alternatives to declawing, most of which you will find great reading about on this site. As far as your cat's aggression issues, it very well could be because the cats that just returned from the vet now smell different to the cats that stayed home...they probably smell like the vet's office. If this is the case, the tension will most likely subside very soon, once their smell becomes familiar again.
post #18 of 24
I am sorry people are telling you that you should not declawed your cats. I know that was a bad thing. But I have two cats that fight with each other.But it did take a long time thoe.I wish you good luck!!!!!!!
post #19 of 24
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone, i been reading everyones replies and i thank you for your concerns and advises. It been over a week since the declawing on our 3 cats. I used the vanilla on all the cats and thats been working great, plus they smell like little cookies with tails. I notice all the non declawed cats are behaving much better towards the declawed cats. Just this morning i saw them licking each other and they don't mind being in the same room together. I feel in a couple of weeks they should be all back to normal.


qestion off the subject? I was in iraq when she had her kittens, and my wife was at work. My kitten are all diffent sizes large, large, med, med, and small. Who was born first?
or one justs eats more?

p.s.
yes, their all spayed and neu



KaspY
post #20 of 24
I'm glad to hear that the vanilla worked for you!
post #21 of 24
I just read your update, GREAT I am so glad it s better. I wish the vanilla worked for me, but it didn't.

And thank you all for the courage of all the troops, and everything you have done for us!! You are al in my prayers!
post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by lunasmom

I think KaspY has gotten the idea of what TCS stands for after 10 replies with regards to declawing her cats.
I apologize for the hijack, but I think that this only needs to be said once as lotsofcats did: with the TCS rules in tact. I know if I had been attacked this way I wouldn't of had very much to say about TCS except that I wouldn't bother coming back because I would've felt harassed for what I did when I was trying to seek answers for something else.

She made a conscious choice and how do we know this wasn't her last resort to save the furniture?

**END HIJACK***
I would have to agree with lunasmom*** Everyone has their opinions on declawing but I was under the impression this site was here help people not judge. No one should feel afraid of asking a question on here, and if you are honest to have every one pounce on him or her?
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post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by KaspY
Hi everyone, i been reading everyones replies and i thank you for your concerns and advises. It been over a week since the declawing on our 3 cats. I used the vanilla on all the cats and thats been working great, plus they smell like little cookies with tails. I notice all the non declawed cats are behaving much better towards the declawed cats. Just this morning i saw them licking each other and they don't mind being in the same room together. I feel in a couple of weeks they should be all back to normal.


qestion off the subject? I was in iraq when she had her kittens, and my wife was at work. My kitten are all diffent sizes large, large, med, med, and small. Who was born first?
or one justs eats more?

p.s.
yes, their all spayed and neu



KaspY
Size is not always an indication of who was born first. Oftentimes the first kittens are the ones that are larger...but I've had situations where the ones that were born 2nd or 3rd were larger than the first one.

Katie
post #24 of 24
sometimes you have to pounce to get your message heard. they shouldnt be offended, maybe they just didnt know beforehand.
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