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post #31 of 54
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Yes there is a University here .the I believe the University of Guelph is the best here in Canada and is not too far away from me.

However when she said that she would consider putting her down - it is only if the seizures were severe and frequent.

Is your cat on medication? If so what it is on?
post #32 of 54
No, he's not, because he only averages one or two attacks a week, and they're of short duration. He's also hyperactive, and the vets decided that was a counter-indication.
BTW, check your email, as I just sent you one, since your PM inbox is full.
post #33 of 54
Dear Carrie,
My cat has had epileptic seizures for 11 years, which we think were brought on when she ingested boric acid (supposedly non-toxic to animals). The vet prescribed pheno-barbitol - at first 1/4 of a tablet twice a day. The body builds resistance to the drug, and now she is at 1 1/2 tablets a day, but she only has seizures when I miss medication. She is a little drugged sometimes, but otherwise has had a long and healthy life. This might be an option for your cat... good luck! Anne
post #34 of 54
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Originally Posted by carrie007
Yes there is a University here .the I believe the University of Guelph is the best here in Canada and is not too far away from me.

However when she said that she would consider putting her down - it is only if the seizures were severe and frequent.
I've heard of Guelph, and you might want to consider having Boo checked out there. My vets have decades of experience, but not with hyperesthesia, and they referred me to a university veterinary clinic. Some of the vets there did have experience with it, and sat down with me and basically ran through all the options, and made recommendations.
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It seems to get worse when Boo is active - playing and running around. When she is sitting quietly she is not affected by it.
I've come to believe that the activity often stems from the condition, and not the other way round, so I'm not surprised that you've observed this.
post #35 of 54
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The vet called and the neurologist that wrote to her said that she does not believe that it is Feline Hyperesthesia Syndrome. There are two test that she wants Boo to have tomorrow one for the Feline Leukemia Virus and one for a Liver test.

After that she will put her on Phemabarbtol and the other also recommended an MRI. The other vet thinks she may have a liaison on the brain or a seizure disorder.

She said that the eating off the floor (phantom eating) is not part of Feline Hyperesthesia Syndrome.

I have to take her in tomorrow for 8 a.m. and pick her up a lunch. She is also not allowed to eat tonight after 8 a.m and not allowed to eat tomorrow morning. We don't have to decide now if we want her to have an MRI, but I did make the decision to have these two test done as the Doctor said they were important.

She said after the tests are done she will start her on Phemabarbitol. If it is a seizure disorder the medication will work long term. But we'd have to wait a couple of months to see if this actually will continue to work.

I am very frustrated right now. I can't afford to have an MRI done. It is going cost like $1500 dollars. She said it definitly is not allergies because her skin is so good. I don't want to put her through all these tests to find out nothing. But I am going to do as much as I can.
post #36 of 54
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I know that I have to be patient, but if they can't fix this problem or find out what it is ...what do I do? I can't afford an MRI. I am so upset and frustrated.
post #37 of 54
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Originally Posted by carrie007
I know that I have to be patient, but if they can't fix this problem or find out what it is ...what do I do? I can't afford an MRI. I am so upset and frustrated.
You know I'm going through the same thing right now. I've been keeping a diary today of how many times Nakita has these episodes. As an example, she had 5 this morning (each lasting 1-2 minutes). She is the same as Boo, when she is sitting or sleeping she's fine. It's only when she starts walking around.

Of course, I'm trying to read up as much as possible before I have the vet visit. Here's another interesting link which I'm including because it has great information on seizure and drug therapies.

http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/neuro/seizures/seizures.htm

An important quote taken from the link above:

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....active seizure disease is defined as a seizure disorder where the seizure represents only one symptom or manifestation of the true disease process. In this case treating the seizure only treats the symptom, not the disease. The goal of neurologic assessment of patients with seizures is to determine whether the problem is due to epilepsy or secondary to an active seizure disease. The latter condition requires the greatest effort to diagnose and treat, since the active cause must be found and eliminated in order to control the brain abnormality. Failure to do so will eventually result in failure of seizure control. On the other hand, in treating epilepsy, the effort can be concentrated upon controlling the seizure
I can't really tell you what to do except take it day by day. Start with the phenobarbital and see what your options are from there. Also be thankful that you have a great vet that is doing the research for you and suggesting tests. As I mentioned to you before, my last vet didn't offer much.

post #38 of 54
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I can't afford an MRI so how far do I go. I guess I get these tests done and then get her on the medication and go from there.

This is my first cat, other then ones my family had and if something happened to her I don't think I could ever have another pet again. All of these things that could go wrong.....I just can't take it.

And what if the vet has missed something simple? I am just soooo frustrated. I actually closed my office door today and cried.
post #39 of 54
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Originally Posted by carrie007
And what if the vet has missed something simple? I am just soooo frustrated. I actually closed my office door today and cried.
http://www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/vth/client_information.shtm

Here's the direct link for the Ontario Veterinary College. I would say talk with your vet and see if you can connect with the college. They are the experts and would have a better handle on you situation.

I think I will be asking for a referral when I get my appointment.
post #40 of 54
I know it is hard but try not to focus on things that might go wrong or a mistake in diagnosis that might have been made. Get the tests done that you can afford and try the medicine that is being recommended now. All of us can only do what we are able to do and no more. My prayers are with you and and your cat.
post #41 of 54
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Well Boo got two tests done today - one for Feline Leukemia Virus and the other for some liver disease. She is also now on medication. If the medication works, they said it is neurological and they will adjust the meds to the lowest possible dosage they can.

I have decide not to pursue an MRI at this point. i am going to wait until the results are back and also wait to see if the meds work.

they put her on Phenabarbitol ( sp?) one pill every twelve hours. So we'll see how she does.

the vet said that most cats are too smart to take the pills with cheese, but I tried it and Boo ate it. However, she may get wise to this.

Anyways I feel like I am doing everything possible and I feel much better.
post #42 of 54
Having a plan always helps.
Keep us posted.
post #43 of 54
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Okay Boo has only taken three pill of the Phemabarbitol so bar but only one twitch so far. I understand that we have to wait a month or two to see if this will continue to work...but so far it only one little twitching episode.

Anyone have experience with this drug and cats?

If so I would appreciate any information you have.
post #44 of 54
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Originally Posted by carrie007
Okay Boo has only taken three pill of the Phemabarbitol so bar but only one twitch so far. I understand that we have to wait a month or two to see if this will continue to work...but so far it only one little twitching episode.
I'm glad to hear it's having such an immediate effect!
post #45 of 54
Years ago I rescued a feral cat with Hyperestasia due to allergies to fleas that caused her to have seizures. She also had central nervous system problems, and (can't remember what it is called) problems with the iris of her eye being attatched to the cornea with threads. I do not know how she managed to live out there in the wild in the blackberry bushes, but she did for a year even tho she was a mess.
Anyway, I found that if I religiously applied Advantage every 3 weeks she did not have problems with the Hyperestasia and lived a good life for 10 years.
I currently have another cat with central nervous system problems and hyperestesia just in the tip of her tail. Again, I find if I keep her Advantaged, the hyperestesia does not help her. Now, If I could only find something to help her temperment! She is a black Tortie. She is now about 12 years old and going strong. She had seizures that the vet thought were caused by the stress of her going in for her physical. He prescribed Phenobarb. but said to wait to see if she had any more. NOPE! She is fine.
Good luck with your Boo. I know she will do well
post #46 of 54
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Well I have put her on Nutro now and something interesting happened this weekend.

She was trying to tear the bag of Whiskies meatly selections open that was on a shelf and so my husband gave her some and the next day she was back to twitching and phantom eating of the floor. So we think that that food makes her worse. We are going to keep her on the Nutro and see how she is. From my understanding Nutro has far less perservative then the other food.

Anyone have any thoughts on if a food could cause this?
post #47 of 54
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Originally Posted by carrie007
Well I have put her on Nutro now and something interesting happened this weekend.

She was trying to tear the bag of Whiskies meatly selections open that was on a shelf and so my husband gave her some and the next day she was back to twitching and phantom eating of the floor. So we think that that food makes her worse. We are going to keep her on the Nutro and see how she is. From my understanding Nutro has far less perservative then the other food.

Anyone have any thoughts on if a food could cause this?
Yep! I've found that eliminating most grains from Jamie's diet has alleviated the problem. I completely avoid food that's sold in supermarkets, and anything containing large amounts of beet pulp or soy. Nutro is one of the foods he does very well on, though I haven't had any luck convincing him that he should eat Nutro wet food. Welcome to the "maybe I should try this one" club!
post #48 of 54
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I think the meds that they put Boo on are not working any longer. She is starting to twitch more and more.

We are trying different foods to see if they are causing the problem. She seemed to get worse on Whiskis. Maybe we're just kidding ourselves with the food!

I am going to take her back to the vet this week for a blood test and to let the vet know that her twitching has returned.
post #49 of 54
I'm sorry to hear that Boo has had a relapse. Based on my experience with Jamie, I still believe that food plays a role in some/many cases. Perhaps you should ask your vet if an all meat/fish diet would help? With the necessary taurine/vitamin supplements, of course. I'm not an advocate of raw feeding, due to Europe's problems with avian flu, and Jamie's refusal to eat raw, but cooked meat or fish might help. Can Boo live with the twitching? If it's not affecting her quality of life, perhaps it's just something you all have to accept and put up with?
post #50 of 54
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we went to a pet food store today and got some new stuff that they recommended. One is a frozen wet food that has no perservatives. The other is a dry food with very little perservatives. She loves the wet food. The dry food, is another story. But the store send we could bring it back if she did not like it and they would give us our money back.

They also said that Whiskis and Fancy Feast were the worst for perservatives and it could very well be the food.

So we've stopped all treats and are just going to keep her on this food and see what happens. I am hopeful that this will help.

Hopefully we'll see some improvements. If not at least we have tried some new foods. But I do know that when on Whiskis she is worse. So cross your fingers and hope this works.

I could care less about the cost of the food, as long as Boo gets better.

Thanks for your support.
post #51 of 54
Whiskas doesn't have the best reputation, to put it mildly, and Fancy Feast, while very palatable, is something that many vets seem suspicious of due to UTIs. I don't buy any cat food with preservatives.
post #52 of 54
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I took Boo to the vets last night for Blood Work to see the levels of the drugs in her system.

the vet believes that she is having a Partial Seizure because during these episodes of twitching, they are followed by Panthom Eating. basically she eats things off the floor that are not there.

So the vet has increased her meds because the meds were not working and we just have to go from there. She has tested for everything, done blood work and can't find anything wrong with her. We have changed her food to see if that was the problem, but so far no improvement.

So...I guess I am facing the fact that my cat has Seizures ( cause unknown). This is very frustrating for me, however Boo remains in good spirits, except when she has to take her meds, which is getting harder and harder to do. ( the vet is looking to see the meds come in a gel form)

The vet did say that the seizures could get worse because if it is a brain lession and it grows, it could cause them to become worse. However she did also say that she could live a full life,just having to take medication.

I wondered why of all people I would get a cat with seizures and my sister in law said perhaps because you'll take the best care of that cat and do everything you can for it.

I'm sad because I don't know what is going to happen to her.
post #53 of 54
hey Carrie I am new here & my poor Bubbles has just been diagnosed with this feline hyperesthesia syndrome" we are almost at the point of trying the seisure meds but first going to try elavil with a steroid, that is if he'll let me...thanks to all who share here for your posting your cat health issuses has not only helped me with great ideas to help me help him but I don't feel so all alone...a support group is just what i need as this is sooooooooo stressfull....I look forward to chit chatting with you ladies...hopefully i'll have some good news soon but for now my poor Bubbles needs your prayers and for this medication to start working as hes under the bed licking like a madman and won't let me near him......
post #54 of 54
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Hi,
Sorry to hear about your cat - FHS can become very severe - but my cat is doing well on the new meds she is on - she now only has occassional problem. We hope she will continue to do better. If you want anymore information I would be happy to answer any questions - you can now PM me as I have cleared my message box.

Thanks,
Carrie
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