Any breed suggestions?

white cat lover · Dec 16, 2005

This is Briana. Everytime I volunteer at the shelter, I stop to talk to her. Someone here has a picture of a cat that looks like Briana, except where she has gray markings their cat has orange. I think she is simply gorgeous & really want to bring her home, but I am pretty sure I would be in deep kitty poo if I did.

I know that she is just a domestic long hair without papers or knowledge of her parentage, but I know she resembles a certain breed. It has been bugging me for weeks, so I finally decided to ask some input from everyone here.

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?act...=0&tmpl=&stat=
She has a gray tail in addition to the gray marks by each ear.

What do you think?

squirtle · Dec 16, 2005

I don't know much about breeds, but she looks a lot like a friends Maine Coon.

Her story is so sad

I can't believe they kept her for 7 years and then got rid of her because they got a new dog, and the dog didn't like her. I can't imagine someone choosing a new pet over one they had spent so much time with

sharky · Dec 16, 2005

She is beautiful and I hope she gets a great home she deserves it...

as for breed she looks like an angora or turkish van( someone with actul expertise please chime in)

solaritybengals · Dec 16, 2005

Yah if I had to pick a breed.. The fur is a little long for a Turkish Van but its close and the muzzle is a little broad for a Turkish Angora so maybe a mix between the two

. Definite van pattern though. If you wanted to pick a breed to help sell her I'd say Turkish Van is probably closer than an Angora...

tnr1 · Dec 17, 2005

Since you do not know her heritage...I would say your current listing is correct. You can say that she "looks" like a particuliar breed, but it can be misleading to call any cat that you do not know it's parents a purebred.

Katie

goldenkitty45 · Dec 17, 2005

If she's also got a blue (gray) tail, her markings are known as "van". I think she's too mixed with different types to pick out one or two. She's not really "maine coon" or "turkish angora". I'd have to look at some pedigree Turkish Van cats and see if she resembles them.

But is is a mix and looks sweet. Hope she can find a home soon. Shame she is declawed - that's probably the main reason the dog and her didnt' get along - she has NO defense against the dog.

kai bengals · Dec 17, 2005

Originally Posted by TNR1

Since you do not know her heritage...I would say your current listing is correct. You can say that she "looks" like a particuliar breed, but it can be misleading to call any cat that you do not know it's parents a purebred.

Katie

Thank-you for pointing that out. I wish more rescues and shelters would adhere to this advice.

joecool · Dec 17, 2005

That poor declawed baby!

But yes, she does look something like a turkish van.

xdx · Dec 17, 2005

As others have said without papers she is a DLH but she's gorgeous. Such a shame that someone would declaw her

laureen227 · Dec 17, 2005

Originally Posted by SolarityBengals

Yah if I had to pick a breed.. The fur is a little long for a Turkish Van but its close and the muzzle is a little broad for a Turkish Angora so maybe a mix between the two . Definite van pattern though. If you wanted to pick a breed to help sell her I'd say Turkish Van is probably closer than an Angora...

that's what i thought, too - definitely a van pattern.

white cat lover · Dec 17, 2005

I think every cat listed at the shelter is a domestic lh, sh, or mh. I haven't seen any listed as purebred. A turkish van is what I was looking for. I was wondering about the pattern, not necessarily the breed.

Her story is a shame. I don't think they gave the dog & Briana much time to like each other. The worst part about her is that she has some "issues" because she was declawed. More people look at her because she is declawed, but she can be a real crab. If I was stuck in a cage with dozens of other cats around & no where to hide I would be a crab, too! She does know how to strike a pose, though!

tnr1 · Dec 17, 2005

Originally Posted by Kai Bengals

Thank-you for pointing that out. I wish more rescues and shelters would adhere to this advice.

Gaye has me trained pretty well. We have a couple of "siamese looking" kittens in our rescue. Mom is a tortie and we do not know whether dad had any siamese in him. So I tell people they are flame point DSHs.

Katie

goldenkitty45 · Dec 18, 2005

One of my pet peeves with shelter/rescue places is the description they give the kitties. Since showing cats, I really don't like when people call their cats grey, orange, tan, flame point, etc.

I know most just call it what it looks like, but I try my best to educate the proper color descriptions. Hope this helps some of you for the future.

Orange, buff, ginger should be called RED (as in Red Mackeral Tabby, Red Classic Tabby)

Grey should be called BLUE (Solid Blue, Blue Tabby, Blue point)

Buff, tan should be called CREAM (bluecream, cream tabby, cream point)

Chocolate is chocolate - most call it correctly.

Orange, cream, black are TORTOISESHELLS - and their colors should be referred to as black, red, and cream. The dilute version is either BLUECREAM OR DILUTE TORTIE (blue, cream mixed).

Pointed colors on shorthairs should be called SEAL, CHOCOLATE, RED, CREAM, BLUE, or the tortie points if mixed or tabby points if tabbies.

On a longhair pointed, sometimes "flame" is substitued for red points.

I'd love to work at a shelter sometimes just to help them identify the correct colors on cats - seen so many "wrong colors" or "wrong types" of what the cats are.

tnr1 · Dec 18, 2005

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

One of my pet peeves with shelter/rescue places is the description they give the kitties. Since showing cats, I really don't like when people call their cats grey, orange, tan, flame point, etc.

I know most just call it what it looks like, but I try my best to educate the proper color descriptions. Hope this helps some of you for the future.

Orange, buff, ginger should be called RED (as in Red Mackeral Tabby, Red Classic Tabby)

Grey should be called BLUE (Solid Blue, Blue Tabby, Blue point)

Buff, tan should be called CREAM (bluecream, cream tabby, cream point)

Chocolate is chocolate - most call it correctly.

Orange, cream, black are TORTOISESHELLS - and their colors should be referred to as black, red, and cream. The dilute version is either BLUECREAM OR DILUTE TORTIE (blue, cream mixed).

Pointed colors on shorthairs should be called SEAL, CHOCOLATE, RED, CREAM, BLUE, or the tortie points if mixed or tabby points if tabbies.

On a longhair pointed, sometimes "flame" is substitued for red points.

I'd love to work at a shelter sometimes just to help them identify the correct colors on cats - seen so many "wrong colors" or "wrong types" of what the cats are.

Oftentimes rescues and shelters do not have a cat breed/color expert. Also, be aware that the reason most shelters do mislabel colors is that people who are adopting do not come in saying "I'm looking for a Blue cat"...they say "I'm looking for a Gray cat"...so shelters/rescues are simply marketing to what the adoptor is looking for. You may want to offer your services to your local shelters.

Katie

gayef · Dec 19, 2005

Gaye has me trained pretty well ...

LOL@Katie

random · Dec 20, 2005

I thought marked patches of color were calicos and an incoherent mix of all three is tortoiseshell.

Many shelters have a limited number of options on their computer apps. While I was in a local area shelter helping a friend look for her calico Japanese Bobtail mix, I pointed out that a dilute calico they had was marked as a regular calico. They said they didn't have the option in their systems. I imagine that if my friend's cat (who later returned on her own) was found, she would've been marked as a manx or a DSH with a stumpy tail.

goldenkitty45 · Dec 20, 2005

Yes you are right. I didn't include EVERY combination. But torties are black/red/cream mixed. Calicos are basically a white cat with patches of black/red. A tortie with white is a tortoiseshell with some white (like paws, belly, face).

Then you have the "van" pattern with color only on the head, tail and a body spot or two - ideal van is just head and tail.

renny · Dec 20, 2005

Whatever she is...she is gorgeous! And i hope someone recognizes that and takes her home soon. It breaks my heart to hear stories like that. I would have gotten rid of the "new" dog long before my friend for 7 years. Terrible.

white cat lover · Dec 20, 2005

Originally Posted by Renny

Whatever she is...she is gorgeous! And i hope someone recognizes that and takes her home soon. It breaks my heart to hear stories like that. I would have gotten rid of the "new" dog long before my friend for 7 years. Terrible.

I would have ekpt them both. Eventually they work things out. Ours dogs & cats don't get along very well. When the cat is mad, the dogs run & hide. I call that an established pack! The dogs know the cats are higher in the pack than them!

wellingtoncats · Dec 21, 2005

She's definitly just a van DLH. Where are my beach friends, eh?????

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