Performatrin Ultra?

My local Pet Valu has a great deal for their in store brand. If you buy 9 bags of Performatrin Ultra the 10th is free. I think this is a great way to get people to go with a good brand above things like friskies, and Pet Valu gets the added bonus of regular customers, *like me*

Sorry if this is an old topic, I came upon it while going through google searches about something else and I thought I'd add my two cents.

Edit: I should say, that deal is for any Performatrin brand bags of food, not just the Ultra, Ultra is what I get.

Also, I should add that my pne cat did get soft stools for awhile. but then everything went fine. Probably it was just the change over to a new food that did it for him. Also, he had been eating some crappy brand before that so he could have just been getting rid of nasty stuff in his body. Detoxing.

I have a 5 month old kitten named bear that I rescued from the human society and pet value gave me a free bag of performatrin ultra kitten food and I was slowly switching him over to royal canon kitten food but this morning I noticed blood in his stool witch was not there before so I am taking him off royal canon to see if that is what is causing the problem any suggestions as his behavior has not changed and he is still eating

I work at a PetValu, and I love it there. Performatrin Ultra is a good food. It's on the same level as the other holistic foods. I do agree that the regular Performatrin isn't that great. Usually I recommend a brand of food specific to a customer or pets needs. Like Chicken Soup for a budget-conscious person who usually buys Meow Mix because it's cheap, or Nature's Variety Instinct for a high protein low carb diet. And I always push the wet food!

bear999 said:

I adopted a 5 month old kitten from pet value his name is Bear I have started to switch him from performatrin ultra kitten food to royal canon kitten for nurtured kitten but I seen blood in his stool today what should I do cause his appetite is fine and he plays just as much

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Hi! How is your kitten doing now? I think your question may have been overlooked since this is an old thread. I am sorry no one has offered any advice.

Sometimes changing food can cause intestinal upset and you will see a little bit of bright red blood in the poop. A slow changing of the food may help to clear it up. The best way to switch foods is to gradually add the new food to the old. A good mix to start with is 1/4 new food, 3/4 old food. When you think the cat has adjusted (no diarrhea or blood), make a mix of 1/2 old and 1/2 new, and continue the process gradually till you reach 100% new food. Depending on the cat, it can take a fairly short period of time to switch (a week or two) or, if the cat is sensitive, as much as a month.

If you are still seeing blood after a week, Bear may need to go to the vet. It could be a more serious problem, or possibly related to a food allergy. But I have a feeling it was probably brought on by the food switch- it happens to two of my girls every time I have changed food.

You may want to start a new thread about Bear's issue to be sure it gets noticed. Everyone is very helpful and friendly, but a lot of times they don't look at older threads. Welcome to the Cat Site and I hope Bear is feeling better soon!

It depends on what you were feeding previously it's really rich compared to grocery store foods.It contains real proteins.Do you feed dry as well?

I don't understand where you get the idea Performatrin is garbage.I think if you look up the ingredients you will not find by-products in any of their food.I pride myself on being educated in the pet food industry as I work for Pet Valu and they provide a very informative training program so we know what we are selling. It is one of the best pet foods you can buy and it is priced for most consumers budgets. I feed it to my pets and I have tried them all.I have been a former Science Diet customer but recent ingredient changes have blown me right out of the water with their first ingredient now being chicken by-products in most of their food INCLUDING the prescription diet sold at the vet.My cat was on SD M/D for a long time and recently developed a severe rash as a last resort not thinking till the end I checked the ingredient list sure enough the first ingredient had been changed to chicken by-products......the same has happened with Royal Canin!I was so disappointed.With the trend for taking better care of our fur "kids" how dare they pull the rug out on unsuspecting pet owners who rely on their research! Performatrin is an excellent source of real protein and an excellent choice for your pet.But that is just my educated opinion.Sincerely,Kat Durant

PERFORMATRIN ULTRA

Beef Stew

Beef, Beef Broth, Beef Liver, Diced Carrots, Diced Red Peppers, Dried Egg White, Potato Starch, Dried Egg Product, Torula Dried Yeast, Tricalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Guar Gum, Natural Flavor, Spinach Flakes, Sweet Potatoes, Peas, Potassium Chloride, Sunflower Oil, Brewers Dried Yeast, Sodium Phosphate, Menhaden Fish Oil, Salt, Taurine, Choline Chloride, Parsley, Sodium Ascorbate (To Promote Color Retention), Flaxseed Oil, Inulin, Dried Kelp, Oregano, Sodium Carbonate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Dried Blueberries, Dried Cranberries, Dried Apples, Sage, Beta Carotene, Vitamin E Supplement, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid.

http://petvalu.com/cat/food/product/25092/beef-stew-performatrin-ultra

Hmm, $3.00 Canadian for a 13.2 oz. can, that doesn't seem too bad.   

There's no carrageenan in this one either.   I wouldn't say there's too many offensive ingredients.  It has some carrots and peppers in case you get hungry too?  

Edit - unless I missed it, I couldn't find the kcal content for their foods.  That bothers me personally. 

Same as Grreat Choice (Petsmart), they don't list their calories per can.  I even emailed them and never heard back. 

Today I tried Performatrin Ultra Turkey, Salmon, Duck pate on Cocheezie. She literally buried her face in it.

Performatrin Ultra Turkey, Salmon, Duke pate

Ingredients: turkey, turkey broth, turkey liver, carrots, red peppers, natural flavor, menhaden fish oil, guar gum, sweet popatoes, tricalcium phosphate, carrageenan, potassium chloride, spinach flakes, brewers dried yeast, flaxseed oil, sunflower oil, choline chloride, taurine, salt, dried kelp, sodium ascorbate (to promote color retention), inulin, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, dried blueberries, dried cranberries, dried apples, beta carotene, oregano, parsley, sage, yucca schidigera extract, vitamin e supplement, thiamine mononitrate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, sodium selenite, niacin supplement, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, vitamin a supplement, biotin, potassium iodide, vitamin d3 supplement, vitamin b12 supplement, folic acid.

CRUDE PROTEIN (MIN.) 10.0%
CRUDE FAT (MIN.) 6.0%
CRUDE FIBER (MAX.) 1.0%
MOISTURE (MAX.) 78.0%
MAGNESIUM (MAX.) 0.03%
TAURINE (MIN.) 0.06%
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS* (MIN.) 0.70%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS* (MIN.) 0.09%

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http://petvalu.com/cat/food/product...ey-salmon-duck-pate-recipe-performatrin-ultra

The old girl has been eating, but will only deign to eat FF Cod, Sole, Shrimp. She is not regaining the weight she has lost (she may never). We are at the final stage where she can eat whatever she wants to eat, but I was becoming increasingly concerned about so much seafood (although the ingredient list states "liver, meat by-products" in the second and third position respectively on the label). I've spent at least $75 on good and bad food so far trying to find a pate that she will eat.

Is there any ingredient that raises concerns or eyebrows? or is a constipation culprit?

Hopefully, this new flavour and taste will continue to have her blessing and it is not just a one-off entertainment.

The education vets receive is provided and sponsored by the pet food industry.  ie:  Science Diet would send their rep to "educate" the potential graduates of the Ontario College of Veterinarians on animal nutrition.  They upon leaving their hard earned education,  come away promoting (and selling...) their product.  Decide for yourself, whether they should be advising you on what your pet should consume.   Big Pharma does, however, have a big influence on this industry...and that is a sad state of affairs.  Gone are the days....it is simply a business now.

Grains are not the root of all evil. A lot depends on the type of grain used and the quality of the ingredients overall. Performatrin is not the equivalent of Cat Chow, as it is Canadian made with no artificial flavours or colours in it, and no questionable preservatives. Generations of cats and dogs have done wonderfully well on it and it continues to be a quality food with a good track record. That being said, it doesn't matter how good a food is, it isn't going to work for each and every pet. Each animal has its own dietary needs and likes. If my cats would eat Performatrin, I would feed it, however, they prefer Nutram.

Actually, grains are really bad for cats as they are NOT part of their ideal diet as they would have it in the wild - except for tiny bits in a mouse's stomach. Too many carbs (that's what grains are) cause tons of felines to become obese and develop medical conditions such as diabetes. So, grains may not be at the root of all evil, but they have NO PLACE in cat food!!!

They have a place in my cats' food. I'll stick with my Science Diet, Royal Canin, and Solid Gold and know I'm getting excellent quality food and excellent results. Bright eyes, shiny coats, good weights, healthy appetites, normal litter box, good teeth. My fifteen year old still thinks he's a kitten. All these trendy, hippie dippy diets are for the birds if you ask me; I've see the ramifications of messing around with an animal's diet too many times (I had one person say the internet said taurine was deadly to cats. Of course if the internet says it, it must be true... )

I've tried all kinds of things with all kinds of cats over the years. I tend to get a lot of the non-eaters, so I do a lot of coaxing. Get them going and then get them onto the good stuff. I've used everything from Whiskas to Go! to home-made; they either go home on Royal Canin or Science Diet (with the exception of one lovely little soul with a love for Nutro). It usually takes them about a week to be eating properly, and then I see major improvement in overall condition.

Well, if you don't mind feeding a species-inappropriate diet, that's your decision. 

You know, you're right. Forget decades of scientific research and good results. I'll just release a bunch of mice, moles, voles, rabbits, and birds into the house and let them have a natural diet. Cats are only supposed to live until three or four, right? They all have parasites, anyhow. Its natural. While we're at it, lets all stop spaying and neutering too. And I'm not providing water anymore, because cats get their moisture from their food. They don't drink. And they never ever eat plants.

Really?

I've done my research, too, over the years. Not on the internet, thank you, where people can write total garbage like I just did and be applauded as the queen of holistic cat care. I feed my cats with good common sense. They tend to live longer than their estimated to, and they have good healthy lives. May, for example, will be thirteen this year. She was a rescue. The vet figured with her problems, she might make it to six or seven. Big, bright eyes, glossy coat, healthy weight, she's an energetic little spitfire of a tabby who gets her point across LOUDLY. She's not slowing down a bit. I credit her good health mainly to a good, scientifically based diet. I'm not going to damage her kidney (yes, I said kidney, singular) with a forty-eight percent protein content, nor upset her touchy gastrointestinal tract with two percent fibre. Her buddy, the same age, who is perfectly normal, likes to see if she can get all around the house without having to touch the floor. The last time I had Morgenne at the veterinarian's office, she climbed the veterinarian and sat on her shoulder. Felix, at fifteen, still thinks he should be able to fly and one day he'll figure it out...I have a population of mainly senior cats who don't look or act senior, and though there are special needs in the bunch, everyone is healthy. We all have all our nice clean teeth, too.

So? Looking at cat foods? How long has it been around? Where's it made? Where are the ingredients sourced? What's in it? What's the guaranteed analysis look like? What does the company say? Does it meet my requirements for that animal? I'll use about anything to entice a non-eater, but when it comes to a proper, permanent diet, there's a very short list of things that I'll use.

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that's weird because when i visited an emergency hospital in my area (North York, part of Toronto, Ontario, Canada) they told me that most of the cat problems come from feeding cats with Performatrin. Their recommended food was Royal Canin. 

When I talked to a salesperson from Pet Valu she told me the reason for that is because they are the only company that endorses vets, so figure it out....

Majki said:

 
that's weird because when i visited an emergency hospital in my area (North York, part of Toronto, Ontario, Canada) they told me that most of the cat problems come from feeding cats with Performatrin. Their recommended food was Royal Canin. 

When I talked to a salesperson from Pet Valu she told me the reason for that is because they are the only company that endorses vets, so figure it out....

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Yeah, I would tend to agree with the person from Pet Valu.  It's not the name brand, but rather the ingredients that matter.  Cat food is such a touchy subject though, and is so personal.  Also, there are different quality levels of the Performatrin too, so maybe that's what they're seeing?

Started using Performatrin Ultra and have also noticed that our cats' fur is much shinier and healthier looking.  The cats LOVE it!  All varieties.

vanillasugar said:

I find a lot of foods claim to be "premium" when they're really just corn and by-products in a bag. Regular Performatrin is pretty much equivalent to Cat Chow. They're not good foods at all. The Ultra is more comparable to what's been labled as "super-premium", things like Natural Balance, Wellness, Innova, etc.

The wet Performatrin isn't really very good either, but if it's all you can afford, it's better than no wet food at all, so I'm not in any position to tell you otherwise 

Honestly, you made a good choice switching over and I'm sure your kitties will thank you for it!

 

Originally Posted by Yosemite It seems to really come down to each person's personal choice when it comes to cat food.

I agree, but ask people to make it an educated choice. It's one thing to take a vets advice into consideration, and another to follow it blindly, without learning about what it is you're feeding your animals. I'm of the mind that vets actually focus very little of their time on nutrition, and really aren't the experts to be listening to in that regard. I trust most vets fully when it comes to illness and injury, but I seriously doubt a vet that tells me a food laden with corn, wheat and by-products is really the best nutrition for a carnivore. It just doesn't make any sence. I encourage EVERY pet owner to read, to learn about pet food, what goes into it, what should and shoudn't be found on an ingredients list, and then make their decisions from that, possibly with some guidance from a veterinarian if you see fit, but I know many who have taught THEIR vet a thing or two about nutrition, and the vet fully appreciated, or at least was open to, the information.

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i dont know if you actually know what your talking about when u say biproduct the biproduct used in performatrin and vet lines are specally selected and only the highest quality bi product has 4 levels and high quality brands use a different level then other brands JUST BECAUSE IT READS BI PRODUCT does not mean beaks and hooves not to mention our wonderful little house cats are obligate carnivores

I've been feeding my 2 cats    ( Performatrin healthy weight formula)    for about 5 yrs @ $50.00 for a 15 lb. bag. from Pet Valu

Is this considered a substandard grade? I've been reading about   "Performatrin Ultra"  on this site.

 One of the  things I find disturbing about this product is the fact that it contains both domestic and "imported ingredients".

The words imported ingredients raise a question (what sort of imported ingredients)? and why? I would appreciate any feedback you can offer