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Cats and raw eggs?
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Feeding raw is a very controversial topic, some people have many years of experience feeding raw with success and some people do not feed raw also with success, so many articles on both sides and it's confusing, i made a choice of feeding raw because i believe that is my cat's natural food as long as the proper nutrients are provided, i'm not too concern about bones because they are built for that, if they can digest the whole prey they certainly can digest the grounded bones that i provide, i also believe that a piece of bone lodge in the system could be fatal.
BTW, i red the article and it stated that dry food is the best thing to give to your pet and stay away from canned food, and the food recommended suppose to be of a high quality are, eukanuba, purina and science diet, the guy obviously hasn't done his research.
BTW, i red the article and it stated that dry food is the best thing to give to your pet and stay away from canned food, and the food recommended suppose to be of a high quality are, eukanuba, purina and science diet, the guy obviously hasn't done his research.
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Hunter, my only suggestion would be to (as you probably already do) try to get certified organic eggs, or from a farm where you know the overall health reputation of their chickens and the eggs they produce.
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I honestly don't think the shell color matters concerning this - but I'd certainly prefer free-range eggs to eggs from chickenss fed hormone/antibiotic-laden feed. Ugh!
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those are right up there with organic...thats what i use
That's what we use...we eat a lot of eggs
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As I said, I know a woman whose poor dog was injured by the bones she put into his raw meat. That's enough for me to realize that bones are dangerous.
The vet who treated the dog also told that woman he sees many other dogs injured by bones in their raw food.
That's fine, I'm not arguing the point. I also know a woman who's dog choked to death gobbling kibble. Apparently, that's fairly common too. I'm not saying someone's dog wasn't injured by eating bones. I'm not saying it never happens. My point is, dogs can be injured eating ANYTHING. Dogs can choke on ANYTHING. Dogs can die from swallowing bits of stick while playing fetch. My vet saw one dog come in with a punctured colon from eating the wooden handle of a spatula, that splintered. They can even aspirate water and choke to death on it.
My dogs have enjoyed a massive and noticeable boost in health since switching over to raw. Many dogs I know have. To me, the risks of feeding processed kibble laden with indigestables and preservatives that cause pancreatitis, bad breath, gum disease, kidney disease, and numerous forms of allergies and cancer greatly outweigh the risk of feeding a healthy natural diet free from artificial additives, and out of the numerous people I've talked to in my years researching a raw diet, including bones, the tale of your friend is the ONLY ONE I've heard where a dog has actually been injured by the bones contained in the food. I said it was unlikely, not impossible.
My dogs have enjoyed a massive and noticeable boost in health since switching over to raw. Many dogs I know have. To me, the risks of feeding processed kibble laden with indigestables and preservatives that cause pancreatitis, bad breath, gum disease, kidney disease, and numerous forms of allergies and cancer greatly outweigh the risk of feeding a healthy natural diet free from artificial additives, and out of the numerous people I've talked to in my years researching a raw diet, including bones, the tale of your friend is the ONLY ONE I've heard where a dog has actually been injured by the bones contained in the food. I said it was unlikely, not impossible.
My dog isn't fed raw diet, but since we get a side of beef yearly (hormone free, grazed cattle), my dog gets nice raw soup bones.
He also gets raw chicken thighbones regularly.
But he also isn't a food gulper, he chews everything.
The benefit for him is gleaming white, tartar free teeth, he's 4 years old.
He also gets raw chicken thighbones regularly.
But he also isn't a food gulper, he chews everything.
The benefit for him is gleaming white, tartar free teeth, he's 4 years old.
I haven't read every word in this thread, but just scanning it over (excuse me if this was mentioned) I don't think I saw an explanation of what exactly the danger of raw bones is. We know the danger of cooked bones -- they splinter, resulting in sharp edges. Raw bones don't. But there are still twin dangers of 1) choking and 2) intestinal obstruction -- both from trying to swallow something too large to swallow. Both fairly low dangers, but both can be minimized if the cat chews the bone correctly before swallowing. Now, this is something that isn't immediately obvious. A cat that doesn't know how to chew bones? Yes -- a kitten learns how from momma cat. But many cats today have no experience dining on prey, or raw meat and bones, having eaten cat food their whole lives.
I've fed raw chicken on bone to my cats several times. Two of the three cats don't know what to do with it. The other cat, who was a stray in former life and probably survived killing prey, knows how to tear up the meat and properly crunch the bones before swallowing. So, my advice is, if you're going to try feeding raw bones and meat to your cat, closely supervise the first few feeding sessions to make sure that your cat knows how to properly crunch up and chew those bones before swallowing. Then you stand the best chance of avoiding the primary dangers from raw bones.
I've fed raw chicken on bone to my cats several times. Two of the three cats don't know what to do with it. The other cat, who was a stray in former life and probably survived killing prey, knows how to tear up the meat and properly crunch the bones before swallowing. So, my advice is, if you're going to try feeding raw bones and meat to your cat, closely supervise the first few feeding sessions to make sure that your cat knows how to properly crunch up and chew those bones before swallowing. Then you stand the best chance of avoiding the primary dangers from raw bones.
Yeah and humans choke on food all of the time that dosent mean we stop eating the food that every human has ever choked on!
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silly ?/ but how do you give a cat a bone?? or do you grind them
All of the raw foods and B.A.R.F. sites I've seen recommend a meat grinder for meat/bones fed to cats.
When I started the switch to put my cats on raw I did buy a meat grinder. Before, only my dogs were on it and they got the meat bits and bones whole. Now, its just easier to grind up the whole meat order than seperate out what is to be for the cats and what for the dogs.
The reason I grind the bones for my cats is because if I did not, they would be dragging bones all over the house trying to hide them from each other. My dogs still get huge beef soup bones to gnaw on recreationally, so don't really need the whole chicken or turkey bone...it serves the same purpose ground up with the meat and offal. I still give them whole turkey necks or wings on occassion as a treat, and have no problem doing so.
However having seen my cats chew through wood, I have no doubt they'd be able to crunch up chicken wings, bones and all, if I gave them the chance.
The reason I grind the bones for my cats is because if I did not, they would be dragging bones all over the house trying to hide them from each other. My dogs still get huge beef soup bones to gnaw on recreationally, so don't really need the whole chicken or turkey bone...it serves the same purpose ground up with the meat and offal. I still give them whole turkey necks or wings on occassion as a treat, and have no problem doing so.
However having seen my cats chew through wood, I have no doubt they'd be able to crunch up chicken wings, bones and all, if I gave them the chance.
Weird occurrence: The other day, I gave some raw chicken to my cats. Both mom and dad sniffed at it and had absolutely no idea what it was, and just stood there, meowing in curiosity. They would not even lick it. The kittens, however, dove right in and scarfed it all between the 3 of them. Neither mom or dad had any clue what the chicken was, and they both were rescued strays (mom @ 4-6 weeks, though, but dad was considerably older when we took him in (about 6 or so months). The kittens have been indoor cats from the day they were born.Originally Posted by coaster
I haven't read every word in this thread, but just scanning it over (excuse me if this was mentioned) I don't think I saw an explanation of what exactly the danger of raw bones is. We know the danger of cooked bones -- they splinter, resulting in sharp edges. Raw bones don't. But there are still twin dangers of 1) choking and 2) intestinal obstruction -- both from trying to swallow something too large to swallow. Both fairly low dangers, but both can be minimized if the cat chews the bone correctly before swallowing. Now, this is something that isn't immediately obvious. A cat that doesn't know how to chew bones? Yes -- a kitten learns how from momma cat. But many cats today have no experience dining on prey, or raw meat and bones, having eaten cat food their whole lives.
I've fed raw chicken on bone to my cats several times. Two of the three cats don't know what to do with it. The other cat, who was a stray in former life and probably survived killing prey, knows how to tear up the meat and properly crunch the bones before swallowing. So, my advice is, if you're going to try feeding raw bones and meat to your cat, closely supervise the first few feeding sessions to make sure that your cat knows how to properly crunch up and chew those bones before swallowing. Then you stand the best chance of avoiding the primary dangers from raw bones.
