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help me please with my baby

post #1 of 27
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Hey my kitty Gracie is pregnant for the first time. but i am so scared for all of the things that might go wrong plus to make it worse, every website is making me feel guilty for letting her get pregnant. We got the cat that got her pregnant fixed (His name is George). but anyway, she is on day63. im scared... i have read almost everywebsite and they all say the same thing, but i am mainly scared because she has never had babies and i dont know how i would have to tie and cut the umbilical cord (if i needed to) so PLEASE write back
Natascha
post #2 of 27
Natasha where are your parents? Surely they will be helping you if you run into problems?
post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 
well my mom will help but what if she is at work. my mom doesn't really research and she wont know what to do. i am just happy that it's a weekend now.
post #4 of 27
Breath... breath.... take a deep breath... calm down.... it's okay. Truth be told, most deliveries go without a problem. Best thing to do is to call your vet, let them know when she goes into labor, and keep an eye on her. Chances are, nothing will go wrong, but if something does, at least your vet will be expecting your call. Good luck!
post #5 of 27
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Originally Posted by Septemberbabi09
Hey my kitty Gracie is pregnant for the first time. but i am so scared for all of the things that might go wrong plus to make it worse, every website is making me feel guilty for letting her get pregnant. We got the cat that got her pregnant fixed (His name is George). but anyway, she is on day63. im scared... i have read almost everywebsite and they all say the same thing, but i am mainly scared because she has never had babies and i dont know how i would have to tie and cut the umbilical cord (if i needed to) so PLEASE write back
Natascha 14years old
Hello Natascha and welcome to TCS! I am so glad you found us so we can help you feel a lot less scared about Gracie and the babies. My first suggestion to you is simple: Remember to breathe. *grin*

OK, now let's just get one thing straight, right from the jump, OK? No one can make you feel anything you don't want to feel. Now repeat that over and over again until you can make it real for yourself. What's done is done and there is no undoing it now. So, with this in mind, the chances are good that Gracie will probably not have any significant issues with having these babies.

If you are forced to cut the cords and discard the placentas, this is not something you need to panic about. But you will need to prepare yourself for this if Gracie doesn't do it herself.

If the sac is not removed within a few minutes after delivery, the kitten will suffocate, so you should be prepared to intervene. The kitten's face should be wiped with a warm, damp wash cloth or gauze to remove the sac and allow breathing. Vigorous rubbing with a soft, warm towel will stimulate circulation and dry the fur. The umbilical cord should be tied with cord such as sewing thread or dental floss and cut with clean, sharp scissors which have been thoroughly washed with soap and hot water. Do not soak or leave the scissors in alcohol and do not wipe them with alcohol before using them. If you have an automatic dishwasher, place the scissors in with your normal wash load and set to Heat Dry - not Air Dry - to “sterilize†prior to the delivery. The cord should be tied snugly and cut about 1/2 inch (1.3 cm) from the body so it is unlikely to be pulled off as the kitten begins to move around the queening box.

I am not trying to make you feel badly about this, but you really do need to think about having Gracie spayed as soon as the kittens are weaned. It is the right thing to do for her and for you. Start saving up your spare change and offer to help pay for it if your parents are reluctant.

Just let me know if you have any other questions, OK?

Again, welcome. We look forward to hearing more about your Gracie and her babies.

~gf~
post #6 of 27
Don't be scared - we have all been through this, and there is a first time for everyone! Most of it is common sense, with a few instructions. In most cases you will not have to do anything, as hte momma cat does it all herself, but as explained, you should know the procedure just in case something goes wrong. Don't rush in to help momcat too soon - she will probably take a few moments to sort each kitten out as it is born, but if she seems to be ignoring a kitten then you will need to help. Can you try and find a neighbour or friend who has been through cat birth to be with you, if your own mom cannot be or does not know what to do? ANd as said, do have the vet number close by and warn them in advance and they will almost certainly be able to explain things to you if you are unsure at any stage. Good luck with it all.
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by Septemberbabi09
....plus to make it worse, every website is making me feel guilty for letting her get pregnant. We got the cat that got her pregnant fixed (His name is George)....
You know what? I bet most cat owners have had a mishap before! Most have probably had a pregnant cat. Don't let others knock you down... it wasn't your fault, it's animal instincts. CJ got pregnant, and I didn't want it to happen, and I got Billy neutered days too late, and I probably could've prevented it somehow, but the fact is I didn't, it happened, and now I have two adorable kittens. What's done is done... there's no changing the past, and if other websites slam you for that, then maybe you just shouldn't go to those websites. You can stay here!
post #8 of 27
Thread Starter 
Guess what everybody! Gracie had her babies this morning from 4-6. i was so prepared! My mom didn't know how to help. The problem was... Gracie only took the umbilical cord off the first baby and not the other 3 so i had to do it. Now they are sleeping peacefully except for a little black one that can't seem to find the nipple. um so i am having my dad go and get kitten milk and bottle just in case it wont eat. i definitely will make sure it eats today and tomorrow so it will get those important nutrients that it can only get from Gracie. Thanks for your help! i am so happy. it has been a tiring morning!
Natascha ps is it bad to hold the kittens while i try and help it find the "TEAT"?
post #9 of 27
No it is not. When Annie was little, I had to get up every three hours and hold her up to nurse. If she starts doing barrel rolls, as in turning, let us know, will ya? When Annie wouldn't nurse, she couldn't find the teat, and just kept spinning... turned out it's because she has a medical condition. If your kitty spins, will ya let me know? Then maybe I can help.

Oh, and CONGRATULATIONS!!!
post #10 of 27
Thread Starter 
well the kitten just moves around crying. it's very sad and it doesnt' hold onto the nipple like the other kittens. i think it kinda rolls.
Natascha
post #11 of 27
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Originally Posted by Septemberbabi09
well the kitten just moves around crying. it's very sad and it doesnt' hold onto the nipple like the other kittens. i think it kinda rolls.
Natascha 14 years old
Does it bob it's head alot?
post #12 of 27
Thread Starter 
let me see.......... yes it bobs it's head and rolls... why?
post #13 of 27
HI.
How many did she have?

I am sorry if I scare you by saying this but LILO had 7 babies and one of her babies did that. I tried even a bottle but it just couldnt suck. It also rolled alot. It would roll to its back. Like it had no control over its little body. He died at 2 days old.

RIP.. Angel

But congrats on the babies and welcome.
post #14 of 27
Thread Starter 
oh she had 4 babies. i have a cat named Garfield ( he's an exotic persian) & your cat lilo looks like my gracie except gracie is gray. is there anything i can do aobut little "BOB"
post #15 of 27
Sounds like exactly what Annie has. She has a Vestibular Disease. Since it was born with it, the chances are that it's congenital and that it will have it the rest of it's life. You can bring it to the vet, and they will most likely give it some antibiotics because it can be an infection. I don't know if they can give it to him/her that young, though. What Vestibular disease is is it effects the equilibrium, causing kitty to feel like he/she is constantly on a swaying boat. As kitty gets older, and begins to walk, kitty will stumble a lot, hold it's head crooked, but will live a normal life. All you can do right now is to hold kitty up to nurse, and make sure kitty eats. Otherwise, kitty will starve. You can call your vet, and see what he/she knows about Vestibular disease, and see what they say.

You can IM me over AOL IM or Yahoo messanger if you wanna talk more in depth.

P.S. What gender is it? I feel stupid calling it "kitty" all the time. LOL
post #16 of 27
Here's some stuff from my research on Vestibular diseases.

Vestibular ataxia This is caused by problems with the inner ear or nerves from this part of the body to the brain. The vestibular system is important in controlling balance and feeds
information into the cerebellum. Affected cats may have a head tilt, nystagmus (flickering of the eyes from side to side or, more rarely, up and down) and tendency to walk in circles and fall to one side. Signs of motion sickness such as nausea and vomiting may also be seen.
http://www.fabcats.org/wobbly_kittens.html

IDIOPATHIC VESTIBULAR DISEASE IS THE MOST COMMON
FORM OF VESTIBULAR DISEASE IN DOGS AND CATS.

Middle ear infection is a likely possibility for vestibular disease especially if the patient has a history of ear infections. When an otoscope is used to visualize the external ear of an animal with vestibular disease and debris is seen, this would be a good hint that there is infection in the middle ear as well. However, just because debris is not seen in the external ear does not mean that a middle ear infection is unlikely. Special imaging of the middle ear bones may be in order.
The most accessible way to evaluate the middle ear is with a special set of radiographs called a "bulla series" (so named because it focuses on an ear bone called the "tympanic bulla"). If the bulla appears abnormal, the ear may require surgical drainage. The problem is that radiography is often not sensitive enough to pick up damage in the middle ear and a normal set of films does not rule out disease. In these cases, special imaging such as CAT Scan or MRI is better (though rather expensive). These imaging techniques, however, allow imaging of the brain tissue itself (which radiology does not) thus allowing brain abnormalities to be evaluated as well.
If a middle ear infection is present but is not known to be present, a routine cleaning of the external ear can lead to a flare up of vestibular symptoms. This is often unavoidable in long standing ear infections.
Brain tumors can be a cause of vestibular disease if the signs fit with a central lesion. In these cases, special imaging as mentioned above is needed to make the diagnosis. Such tumors may be treatable depending on their location.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...r_disease.html
post #17 of 27
Thread Starter 
i don't know yet. i haven't checked. we thought that it was eating but it was just laying down on the moma. it won't eat. ill tell my mom. but my dad doesn't want to take the kitty in too the vet. i told him to but he just got way pissed at me.
post #18 of 27
I will keep "BOB" in my thoughts and prayers. Please keep us updated on how he is doing.

If you need anything you can private message me.
post #19 of 27
Congrats on the babies, and hopeffully little Bob will be fine. You are a great cat mommy and caretaker!

Did you see all the little stickies in this forum? http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=36
post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Septemberbabi09
i don't know yet. i haven't checked. we thought that it was eating but it was just laying down on the moma. it won't eat. ill tell my mom. but my dad doesn't want to take the kitty in too the vet. i told him to but he just got way pissed at me.
If it is a vestibular disease, there isn't much they can do right now anyway. I would keep an eye on Bob, and just make sure he/she eats. That's what's important right now. Getting it to eat. Good luck, and you can message me anyway if you wanna talk.
post #21 of 27
Thread Starter 
ok i think i got it to eat for a second. i am going to try the bottle but is it true that if they start on the bottle, they never go off of it until they are weaned? im really happy that little Bobby ( that's what im naming it- it's a girl) is eating a little. should i put fatty yogurt in the milk?
Natascha
post #22 of 27
No, I don't think that's true. And, I wouldn't put yogurt in the milk... just use the KMR as it says on the directions. She may not take to the bottle though... Annie wouldn't, and most kittens don't. But it's worth a try. If she does, wonderful, if not, you may just have to hold her up to the teat and let her eat.

P.S. Cute name!
post #23 of 27
Thread Starter 
ok but what is KMR?
post #24 of 27
Hi there-

KMR is Kitty Milk Replacer- it comes in powder or liquid. Bobby could be the runt of the litter and just not able to hold onto a nipple right now. If you bottle feed her, you have to be very careful to not feed her to quickly and to feed her in the right position, while she is on her belly and not on her back. No one but a vet can tell you if the little one has any type of disease and we all wish you the best as you intervene to try and help her-

www.kitten-rescue.com will help you learn about bottle feeding newborns. It is not true that once they start to bottle feed you have to continue, but if you do start, you have to commit to be sure she gets fed every three hours around the clock.


Best of luck-
post #25 of 27
Thread Starter 
thanks. little baby bobbie seems to be doing fine. she isn't crying right now and she seems good. thanks.
Natascha
post #26 of 27
I hope all goes well. And I also wanted to clarify... I didn't mean she DID have it, I meant it sounds just the way Annie did when she was little. If your vet is puzzled like my old vet was, you might wanna ask what they know about vestibular disease.
post #27 of 27
Thread Starter 
ok... um bobbie is doing pretty good.... still bobbing it's head, not really rolling as much. just thought i would update!
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