OK - here goes. We're adopting a daughter and she needs prayers.

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Originally Posted by LDG

SHE DOES NOT HAVE AIDS, SHE IS NOT H.I.V. POSITIVE - and she doesn't even show any signs of Hep-C (which she was diagnosed with in the past)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU -

How can Gary, Naomi and I thank you enough for all your incredible good will and good wishes?

Oh - when we hadn't heard from her by 10:00 last night, I told Gary that I thought she wasn't going to come if we let her get away with it - that she's just too scared to get the results. He agreed, and we were prepared to hit the car and roll into the City again. Which is, of course, what happened. At 1:30am she called to say she didn't think she was going to make the last bus out here, she'd just catch an early bus in the morning. Gary said, "Honey, the last bus left half an hour ago. dWe know you're really scared, and we know that on some level you really don't want the test results. But we're going to get this behind us so we can do what needs to be done, whatever that is. We all need to put this behind us. So we're leaving right now, we are driving into the city to pick you up, so this time you're going to tell us where to pick you up. It will take us no more than one hour, so just to be absolutely sure we are there waiting for you, where do you want to meet us at 3:00?" (3:00 am!) Go Dad Go!

We checked into the hotel at 5:30am, Naomi and I slept until 10:00, and we got it together and headed to the Docs. She was rigid like a stone, walking like a zombie, and staring off into never-never land. It snowed here - we were on time, and the Doctor was late! We had to wait for about 25 minutes, and each minute was complete excruciating agony. Doc waived us in - and we asked Naomi if she wanted us to be with her. She said no, she really wanted to do it alone, but she really, really appreciated our making her do it and being there for her (Gary managed not to cry until she disappeared into the examining room).

It seemed like they were in there forever - though it was only about two minutes before the door opened and Doc popped out for something. Gary and I walked over to the exam room door and peered in - and she had almost a smile - and I said to Gary - "I think she's smiling - " - and she lit up like the Fourth of July and said "I'm OK!" - We glanced at Doc - and she was beaming and gave us both thumbs up. We were whooping and crying and we were all hugging - it was insane. But she had more stuff to go over with her, so we got coffee for everyone, and they did take like half an hour.

When they were done, Doc came out and said - I don't know how you guys do it, but you've got an amazing kid on your hands.

And Naomi confirmed that she wants us to legally adopt her. And we went back to the hotel, discussed the creation of the Homeless Assistance Network for a couple of hours, and then passed out.

She feels like she's been given a new lease on life, and she doesn't want to waste it.

We told her let's do things one step at a time - we've got to get her healthy first, and as she's been through (state-run) detox several times, she knows that this news is really the hardest news of all, and she just went through the easiest part of it.

She kept thanking us for being there for her, over and over again. We keep telling her she does not have to keep thanking us - and it finally hit me.

I don't know who wrote or said this - or if I just made it up. I have no idea. But I told her that thanking us for "being there for her" is like thanking the sun for shining, or thanking the wind for blowing. So instead of continuing to tell her to stop thanking us, every time she thanked us, we were going to thank her for being.

Now - the hard part begins. We had to let her go again. She did not come out prepared to head straight to detox, though she said again, she is committed to doing this. I told Gary - I think she's really going to. He said - let's just see. When you're in the curve, it is so clear that you want to quit - but when you're coming down, it's a completely different story.

So anyway, we went out to dinner with her friends, and then we drove her back into the city. She says she's going to call the clinic Thursday or Friday to make the commitment to go in, and she's going to say good-bye to her friends - because, as she puts it, if she wants to do this right, she can't see them again for a long, long, time and that by the time she's probably ready to see them, she won't know how to be with them because all they really have in common is the high.

So - one day at a time. Oh thank God she's OK! She really is our Sunshine, and boy do I hope we can help that little beacon of light shine.

Thank you all so, so, so, so, so much!
I am kind of new here and I just now found this thread but I wanted to say "BLESS YOU" ! We all make mistakes in our lives and all of us need people like you and Gary to help! She is ONE LUCKY girl to have the two of you!
 

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I just read the updates... I hope everying it still going on the right track. Sending tons of hoping your way, to help.
 

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L and G---I follow this thread with interest. I agree with all of the cautionary notes that have been placed in this thread, and I also know that you already have your hearts in this and cannot pull back or be cautious now. I figure it's better to give wholeheartedly and try, even if you get your hearts broken, than not to follow your hearts. I continue to wish you the very best of luck. The hardest part is that Naomi, although she truly does want to be with you and change her live, is still controlled by the drug to which she is addicted. That drug will continue to make her decisions for her until she really kicks it for good, if she can do that. Let's just hope and pray that the intervention may be enough stronger that she can continue to take steps toward health and sanity. My thoughts are with you.......
 
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Originally Posted by D'Elle and Beau

L and G---I follow this thread with interest. I agree with all of the cautionary notes that have been placed in this thread, and I also know that you already have your hearts in this and cannot pull back or be cautious now. I figure it's better to give wholeheartedly and try, even if you get your hearts broken, than not to follow your hearts. I continue to wish you the very best of luck. The hardest part is that Naomi, although she truly does want to be with you and change her live, is still controlled by the drug to which she is addicted. That drug will continue to make her decisions for her until she really kicks it for good, if she can do that. Let's just hope and pray that the intervention may be enough stronger that she can continue to take steps toward health and sanity. My thoughts are with you.......
Boy did you hit the nail on the head! She is controlled by the drug, and she did not find the strength to make the call. Push did NOT come to shove.

She did not show up at pick-up time. But this time we didn't "pander," and he left a message on her cellphone that he was there, waited, and understood the message she was sending, so when she's ready to come home, she should call and we'll figure out where to go from there, but that he was going home.

She called at around 11:30 or so - and said "Dad, I'm out of control." "What do you want me to do, Naomi? Do you want to come home?" "Not yet. Rabbit's the friend that she was in town to see not leaving until Sunday, so I'll come home then. But I don't want you to worry, I just wanted you to know I'm OK." "But you're not OK, you just said you're out of control, and our agreement was that you were coming home today." "Dad, I'm not used to being told what to do or when." "Noami, I'm not used to being a dad, and what I'm hearing is a desperate junkie asking her dad to put his foot down and insist on coming in to pick you up. The only problem with that is that you technically are an adult, you do have to make your own decisions - of course, you've expressed over and over again that you're not happy with the results of those decisions, and we can't do this for you. I'm assuming you didn't call Chris today." "No dad, I didn't." (Now crying). "Dad, I don't want you to come get me. I'll call you tomorrow." "Naomi, this is your home now whether or not you're ready now, tomorrow, next week, or next month for detox. Please do not let shame prevent you from coming home. We'll work this out Sunshine - in the meantime, we need to find you a new specialty - one that doesn't involve torturing me!" Now she's laughing. "But dad, it's so easy to torture you! I'm OK, really. I'm going to hang with Rabbit, and I'll call you tomorrow. I love you dad, and please tell mom I love her too." click. Call ended.

So.... there you have it. She did call today and wanted to come home. So Gary drove in to have dinner with her and Rabbit (a 22-year-old traveler - an artist who lives in the drifter community - they have a whole network and communicate with each other online). I stayed home because of the storm - if there were any problems, someone needed to be here. Rabbit was leaving Sunday - just at 2:45am. So they've dropped him at the train station, and they're on their way home now. At a crawl. It is blizzard conditions in the city.

In the meantime, I've loaded up on "Parenting the Hurt Child," "Adopting the hurt Child," "Recovery Options: The Complete Guide," "The Truth about Addiction and Recovery," etc. and I've been boning up on how to deal with this - "downloading" information at a greater rate than you can get with one hour sessions with a therapist. For Naomi, as a heroin addict, therapy isn't all that helpful. We need it as a "family," because we all have to learn how to be one. But what Gary and I additionally need is to find a therapist with experience in older adoptions and addiction to act as a guidance counselor.

And, I think we might actually have just been handed the way to find one. I'd called so many detox programs - and one of the hospitals called back today. They have a waiting list a mile long (which doesn't matter now because we've chosen the people and the program, and she's got until Feb 4 to make the call though she doesn't know that before she has to wait to get into this one). Anyway, one of the hospitals called back, and they work with a "rehab counselor" (not detox) who is familiar with all of the rehab programs in the area and the psychiatrists who specialize in opiate addiction around here, and what he does is meet with the family, and match the addict to the program and/or psychiatrist for post-detox. Of course, we should be able to prevail upon his knowledge of the local psych community to find someone who can really help walk us through how to handle Naomi, because while we're getting therapy, we're not getting much useful information on how to deal with her as an addict, which is now clearly what we need since she's obviously not ready to go to detox.

At least she wasn't ready yesterday or today. But there's always tomorrow....

In the meantime, we'd better get prepared for having a daughter that's addicted to heroin, because neither one of us has any interest in turning back. Our hearts are in this, and what we have to figure out is how to be there for her, but not make it so easy for her to be an addict that she has no motivation to quit.

Thank you all so much for your support and good thoughts for her. I have no idea what we're going to do, I just know we're not giving up, and hopefully she won't either. Hopefully she'll pick up that phone tomorrow, once she's home and feeling safe, but out of her circuit, and isn't quite so high....
 

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Bless the 3 of you, may you find the support and strength you need, keeping the 3 of you in my thoughts and prayers,
 
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SHE MADE THE CALL LAST NIGHT - and we didn't even know it! She didn't get Chris on the phone - got voicemail. But he called back today, and when she was in a state of mind to deal with it! Normally she'd have to get together with him before they would commit to a date, but because of the snowstorm, travel problems - and the fact that NYC is NOT a good place for her, Chris was willing to settle for an extended conference call alone with her.

After her chat with Chris, he spoke to Gary and I. They highly recommend a specific therapist and program in Gainesville, FL as rehab follow-up to this detox program, although they like our idea of visiting Canyon Ranch up in Mass right after - get out of the area, get away from access to people she knows, and have someone else responsible for getting us all back on a get-up-in-the-morning and go-to-sleep-at-night schedule. Plus the spas, massages and acupuncture would be really good for her - detox will get the heroine out of her system, but there's a lot of healing left to do, both physically and emotionally. I've had such great success with acupuncture for various things in the past, and she's really into the idea. We have a great acupuncturist in the city, but I think we've found one out here for further follow-up once we're back.

We'd like to spend two weeks in Gainesville, so hopefully we'll be able to schedule that tomorrow. Right now, detox is scheduled for Thursday.

Today she's more lucid than we've ever seen her. We've ordered course catalogs from all the community colleges around here, and some of them have started arriving. She is so excited about the idea of starting to take classes. She/we will be in therapy daily once we're back, but she's been working on planning out all of the things she'd like to do. Math tutor, writing class, guitar lessons, yoga, tai chi (all of us will be doing this one together) and acupuncture in addition to daily therapy to start. Individual two times a week, group twice a week, and family twice a week, each type with a different therapist. I think that sounds busy enough to start with. She will need time alone, and she does want to write.

Thank god we've got some angels to help us afford all of this.

Unfortunately, right now I've got a sinus infection and bronchitis. After her call with Chris, we zoomed over to the doc - and after dropping me off back home, Gary's keeping her mind occupied by shopping with her for a desk and typewriter, about which she is ecstatic. Gary's heading over with her to the cat shelter where they're volunteering tomorrow (all day), and she's at Narcotics Anonymous meetings each evening now. I think Wednesday we'll head out for a day trip - it's about a two hour drive to upstate NY to see the world's largest Kaleidoscope. Just keep her busy and distracted until it's time to go in - then the real work can begin.

The stress and crazy schedule is really starting to take its toll, so while they're still out, I'm off to catch a much needed nap. I am so, so pleased she made the call on her own, no prompting, and without even telling us until afterwards. I'm even more pleased she was able to follow up with it this morning - and, well - we'll see. There's still no guarantee, but it's looking darn hopeful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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yay! things are looking so good for all of you! thanks so much for keeping us informed.........I always check whenever there is a new development on this thread. I continue to send you my good luck wishes! (by the way, things like yoga and tai chi are truly excellent for those who are recovering from drug addiction. They work on other levels than just the physical. They also help to heal the spiritual level, emotional, and psychological levels, and they help to integrate all those things inside that get fractured and split up when a person is addicted to drugs. I know this may sound woo-woo, but it is not, I know this for a fact and from experience and a lot of observation. These practices are thousands of years old, and they really do work. I very highly recomend that you do your best to keep Naomi involved in taking classes of either or both of those. It will truly help.)
 

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She is beautiful! She is JUST my size, too. I am a teeny bit taller, and I weigh 84~
I am especially interested in this. I will PM you soon.
 

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Laurie, that is wonderful news! It continues to boggle my mind how things are falling into place, and how well Naomi is responding to this big opportunity in her life. Obviously, it ain't over til it's over, and that's a long way off, but does it ever look hopeful.
I'm glad to hear, too, that there are "angels" helping to make it possible. I've been feeling anxious for you at the financial implications, which could be staggering. Anyway, continued prayers and vibes for the three of you. You really are awesome!
 

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I am SO happy to hear the good news! That is so wonderful.
Things are rolling now, it seems. I will continue to pray for you all!


 

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Laurie - I am SO happy for you all!


If you are driving to Florida, you are more than welcome to stop by here in Western North Carolina
 

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It sounds like you are all making great 1st steps towards healing and becoming a family. I am keeping all of you in my prayers and I hope that Laurie, you recover from your illness quickly!
 

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That's great!!!!! What a surprise!!!!!
I hope things keep going in that direction. Hope you get to feeling better too.
 

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Woo hoo!! So far so good! Hope you keep moving in the same direction! Lots of hugs to you all.
 
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