Probiotics and kidney disease

Status
Not open for further replies.

dbdraggin

TCS Member
Thread starter
Kitten
Joined
Mar 17, 2016
Messages
2
Purraise
1
Hello everyone, I'm a new member but long time lurker on this and many other cat related forums.

Our boy "Buddy" is 13 or 14 years old. Last June some issues began that led to many blood tests and examinations of all types. Not only did our guy have thyroid issues, terrible anemia, UTI issues, licking the concrete floor plus eating his litter, and the beginning of kidney disease... but also a fist-sized cyst on one of his kidneys that has been twice drained under ultrasound and returned to full size in less than two days later each time.

Hes been a trooper through all of it, but the last few months we've begin to see him deteriorate pretty quick. He was always a big boy, around 18-19 pounds, but now he's dropped to just under 10 as of the last vet visit 2 weeks ago today.

-Medication brought the thyroid under control.

-Epogen yielded really great results for boy, and his anemia hasn't been a concern for around 4 months now.

-He doesn't eat his litter nearly as much, but we know he still does because we find it in the bottom of his water bowl... and doesn't seem to lick the concrete anymore. Switching to non-clumping litter and giving him a liquid iron supplement twice a day seems to have helped with this.

-Switching him to Royal Canin wet and dry food has brought his kidney level to a level of maintaining with no dropping.

-He gets fluids every other day and we also bought a pet fountain he seems to like which seems to have stopped the UTI issues for quite a while.  Fingers crossed on this one, every piece of fabric in our home is lined with plastic and blankets... it only takes being pee'd on once with bloody urine while you're sleeping to become very VERY proactive, very thankful for the water proof mattress cover that was already on the bed.

Problem being, the last time he DID have UTI issues? they were back-to-back. The previous 3 times he had issues before it was one round of antibiotics and done. The last time? he literally was off antibiotics and pain meds for maybe 36 hours tops before the same thing came right back. Thankfully, a different antibiotic was the solution, but when all was said and done it was nearly a full month straight of antibiotics in his system. This is when the constipation, weight loss, and poor eating began.

The constipation seems to have been eased quite a bit with the addition of a stool softener to his diet, in the beginning he went 2 or 3 days straight of no eating at all until he finally went to the bathroom no matter what was offered to eat. Even now though, while his poop is moist enough to have litter sticking to it, he still has his times during the day where hes sitting very uncomfortably like when the severe constipation first cropped up.

His eating was doing well for a short time a few weeks ago, back to two scoops a day of dry food and some wet as well in the AM. Seemed to put on a little weight. But after a few single episodes of dry heaving spread out over a few days, I came home to find a fair amount of vomit on our UTI-protected couch and his eating habits are down to less than a scoop of dry food a day. 4 days ago, he had a dry heaving episode again and Laxitone has been introduced twice daily now with no further repeated performances. He seems to actually like it instead of flinging it ALL OVER the house like he use to many years ago.

While the litter munching could be the root to this? and is being addressed. I'm thinking the timing of when it all got bad (when the near-month of antibiotics took place) could be the culprit.

Today, I stopped by the vet and came home with this: http://vetriproline.com/gi-balance-pro/

I didn't get to talk to the vet, as he was with another patient and I didn't have time to wait. I also have never had reason not to trust the care/products they provide. My questions are, after the short novel I just typed out...

1) Are these good?

2) Is there something better?

3) Is this something that is acceptable to be giving our boy considering the multitude of issue I have listed above?

I've done so much research the last few days on probiotics, some was old and seemingly outdated, some just seemed like blatant product pushing, my head is swimming. I figured it was safest to just ask.

I thank you all so much for your time, you'll never know just how much I appreciate it.

Russ
 

mrsgreenjeens

Every Life Should Have Nine Cats
Staff Member
Advisor
Joined
Aug 13, 2009
Messages
16,451
Purraise
7,238
Location
Arizona
 
Probiotics are great for all cats. I don't buy into any notion that cats need a cat or pet specific variety. I give my cats this one.  

I would be concerned about feeding a cat with kidney issues and a history of UTIs any dry food at all. Ideally you want him on a wet food only diet. 

http://www.foodfurlife.com/use-probiotics-in-cats.html
Totally agree with missmimz.  I also give my cats probiotics daily.  I give them this one:, but have been considering the one missmimz uses. 

I just recently lost my kidney cat, but couldn't agree more that moist food, with extra water added is the best thing for them, especially if they have a history of UTIs.  That, the fountain, and sub-q fluids are what kept my girl alive for so long.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #4

dbdraggin

TCS Member
Thread starter
Kitten
Joined
Mar 17, 2016
Messages
2
Purraise
1
Thank you to everyone who replied here and contacted via PM. I was reading the responses from my phone as they came, but couldn't post replies until I was on a pc to properly type.

Everything you said I researched and looked into right away. Sadly, we had to have our boy put to sleep yesterday and I never got much of a chance to act on what was said

We came home Easter night after being away from 3-3.5 hrs and he was very weak and had collapsed on  the floor. He tried to walk, but only managed a few very unstable steps each time before he would collapse again. He was fine when we left, and Saturday had been a REALLY fantastic day in terms of eating and being back to our usual boy. A day like we hadn't seen in a month or so that really inspired hope. He even snuggled with me on the bed, on purpose! Me, the evil husband who did all the pillings and poking him with needles. It had literally been months since he snuggled with me at any length.

We took him to the local animal hospital where he was admitted right away and his blood results showed his potassium was low, they began treatments when we left. Never in a million lifetimes would I have suspected we'd never be bringing him back home again. His kidneys levels we elevated that night in the low 70's as opposed to the low 50's early this month. They called us about 4 or 5 hours after we left, around 4AM and said he wasn't responding to the treatment and his eyes weren't reacting as much as the vet would like. They said they'd call back in an hour if there were any changes, getting in touch with them proved near impossible once the sun came up, each time they said someone would call us back, each time they did not. Finally we just showed up asking to talk to someone.

The vet explained he still hadn't responded, though his potassium was up to where it needed to be. His kidney levels were now over 100 and he was showing large amounts of white blood cells. After 3 hours of deliberation/sobbing/and what if's between my wife and I, while snuggling with our boy and making him feel relaxed while telling him how much we loved him, how important he was to us the last ten years, and would always miss him... we decided to let him go.

As I type this, I sit on my chair at the dining room table that I always turned for him to jump onto and then into his favorite window... sitting beside his water fountain and listening to its gentle trickle... watching the sun shine though the same window onto the floor which he's spend a lot of time laying on to enjoy its warmth. This is all terribly heartbreaking.

I really do appreciate everyone who took their time to reply and offer help, I'm sure you get a lot of people who never return after asking questions. I didn't want to be one of those folks.

Russ
 

LotsOfFur

What greater gift than the love of a cat.
Top Cat
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
1,621
Purraise
634
Location
Texas
My heart is breaking for you, I'm so sorry for your loss!
Buddy knew he was loved and you sound like a wonderful guardian! Hold on to the memory that Buddy gave you on Saturday, it sounded like it was a good one. [emoji]128149[/emoji]
 

pushylady

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 26, 2005
Messages
16,398
Purraise
451
Location
Canada
I'm so sorry that after all you did you lost Buddy. He was obviously greatly loved by you and your wife, and I'm sorry you had to let him go so much sooner than you were ready for.

This thread will now be closed as per TCS policy. We do this out of respect for the cat that has passed.
If or when you feel up to it, you may find that posting a tribute thread on our Crossing the Bridge forum helps you. :rbheart:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top