FIP?

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One of my cats, 7 year old Figaro, started to lose weight a couple weeks ago (around Jan 23/25). Took him to vet Feb 3rd, by chance - seen on an xray- she found that he had fluid in his chest (he was not breathing hard or panting or coughing or open mouth breathing).

He was kind of worked up so she kept him overnight, and 'put him under' for fluid removal. She removed fluid, fluid was 'yellow straw color'. (I did not see fluid which now I regret!)

It was so thick she was unable to get all of it, so she asked to keep him again overnight. She started him on pred, clavamox and Lasix, to cover all bases until we could figure out what it was. T

The next day, she called to tell me that #1) the fluid that had been left in there the previous day was all but gone #2) the fluid was consistent with FIP due to the globulin vs protein ratio. She kept him Friday night as well - so she could rexray him on Saturday AM. She said she tried to tap him but again fluid was too thick to get out.

She did say it could be other things, so I took him to get an ultrasound to rule out the other potential causes. The ultrasound vet (my old vet clinic), prob spent a whole 5 minutes with Figaro in the ultrasound room (I was not in there). He told me when I walked in with the cat - before even seeing him - he was 100% sure it was FIP and there was zero reason to do an ultrasound. His temp was actually low @ the ultrasound apt (and normal at the first apt).

His blood work was perfectly fine. Globulins were slightly elevated but not a lot.

He is perfectly normal & we are going on 3 weeks from when I noticed weight loss I *feel* he has put on some of his weight altho realistically I know it could be fluid buildup (former vet did not even look at fluid I know, so mad at them!), but he isn't really poochy like he was before he got drained before.

He is going back tomorrow. I am going to see if she has to retap him if she will get another blood sample (hate to do it if he is awake, hate for him to stress any more than normal esp if it is FIP) to see if anything is changed, but typically in FIP, the WBC is low/high from what I read and his was normal.

I joined an FIP FB group in hopes of getting some answers, but of course they cant tell me. They say that FIP is usually in the abdomen, I read that only 34% of the time it occurs in the chest.

He also has not been thru any trauma or stress. Everything at our house has been the same as it always was. No new cats, nothing new at all.

 

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The fluid itself does sound like fip, it's not common to see it in a 7 yr old cat.

If the fluid did not suggest fip, there are other causes for chest to accumulate fluid.

The color, thickness, and glob/protein ratio is pretty indicative I'm sorry to say.

The fluid will return too. I would have it drawn out as long as he is acting okay and eating fine, but you did say he is losing weight, cats are award winners at masking their suffering and discomfort too.
 
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One of my cat rescue friends said fip fluid was sticky but wasn't thick?

He went in for vet visit today. No fluid. She wants to see him again in a month. He hasn't had the classic symptoms. Still keeping him on pred, antibiotics and steroids.

He has put on weight. I thought it was fluid buildup but if there is no fluid...

We are almost at 3 weeks now.
 

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One of my cat rescue friends said fip fluid was sticky but wasn't thick?

He went in for vet visit today. No fluid. She wants to see him again in a month. He hasn't had the classic symptoms. Still keeping him on pred, antibiotics and steroids.

He has put on weight. I thought it was fluid buildup but if there is no fluid...

We are almost at 3 weeks now.
One of the characteristics of fip fluid is the specific gravity, it varies but is usually called 'thick', this can vary, possibly depending on how long it's in the body....(?)

Drawing it out also depends on the size needle being used.

FIP is tricky, and it has so many different signs, I should say more that they will vary timing wise, most commonly seen is a fever of an unknown origin, but not all get the fever, or get it at the end once it has done a good deal of internal damage.

At this point, holding out hope is good, it's our nature to think this way, and it may very well turn out not to be, but at the same time do yourself a big favor and try to stay realistic that it just might be fip too. 

There is nothing easy about my saying that, we all know the shock of this diagnosis, how heartbreaking and painful it is to think of 'no cure' and losing our beloved fur babies.

Now and then we see cases where it actually turned out not to be fip, which is the best, triumphant news!

But more times then not it is fip, but it helps to have some time to absorb the possibility, and of course I am sure hoping this can be one of those times.

I've seen cats seem just fine but with either fluid, or the fever, so off to the vet they go without getting anything confirmed for sure, then suddenly there will be a downward spiral that comes suddenly too. This is what makes fip so tricky.

No 2 cases are the same.

Sending lots of positive vibes to you and your little boy.

  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Just a short/quick update..hopefully LOL.

Figaro is doing superbly. He had yet another check up last Monday (2/29). I had thought the fluid returned as he wasn't his normal self.

NO FLUID!!!!

The vet said he looked good, had put on weight and she was shocked that there was no fluid. She said he was 'full of piss and vinegar' as he was having none of her. He was even hissing which is not typical for him (maybe some roid rage? or prob just mad that people keep messing with him!). She was very happy with his progress. And how 'chubby' he was.

We are cutting him back on pred (1/2 pill for a week & now he is down to 1/4 pill - 2.5 MG a day) and also the Lasix (1/2 pill every day). She put him on another round of antibiotics.

She only did a CBC on him because he was doing so well. His WBC a small bit high - she thinks due to the high dose of pred he was on. She said most likely that is why he felt yucky.

No one has any idea what is going on with him but no returning fluid (has been a little over a month - he had his first and hopefully only tap on 2/3) & kitty acting normally/eating normally/exc. I will take it :) :) :)

My niece and me have been joking that he has been 'faking it'. Her theory is that he loves the vet so much he has feigned sickness. I caught him in his carrier a couple days ago (pic attached). I thought it was so hilarious (it is the small things). Its a horrible picture - the light downstairs sucks - but makes me laugh every time. He was like 'no...wait...please don't send me back...'.


The other pic is him last Monday. He ran around like a crazy cat all night. I think he was trying to prove to me he was fine and didn't need to go back and see the vet.

 
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