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Back story:I took in a pair teenage brothers that had issues. I didn't know what they were until I got them. One was very destructive; killing plants, splashing water out of every water source possible and killing pet fish and birds. I could not keep him and took him to the SPCA. The other brother has diarrhea, eats and drinks a lot. He's wrecked multiple litter boxes. This has been going on for several weeks now.

Treatments; I've been feeding him dry cat food and water. I've supplemented with Kefir and whey for the probiotics but it seemed to make things worse.
Currently trying Diatomaous Earth (DE) mixed in some wet food. Thinking he's got worms and this will deworm him. I also read that garlic and ground pumpkin seeds (for deworming) and tumeric (for intestinal inflammation) is also good for clearing up diarrhea.
I would like others opinion. I know people will say take him to the vet but I want to try to fix this organically.

Garlic is poisonous to cats.  DE can be used as a wormer but does nothing against the various intestinal things he may have.  Saccharomyces boulardii is a good and very specific natural cure for many intestinal problems, and can be purchased on Amazon and given to them in their food. 

Primadiana said:

. The other brother has diarrhea, eats and drinks a lot. He's wrecked multiple litter boxes. This has been going on for several weeks now.

Treatments; I've been feeding him dry cat food and water. I've supplemented with Kefir and whey for the probiotics but it seemed to make things worse.
Currently trying Diatomaous Earth (DE) mixed in some wet food. Thinking he's got worms and this will deworm him. I also read that garlic and ground pumpkin seeds (for deworming) and tumeric (for intestinal inflammation) is also good for clearing up diarrhea.
I would like others opinion. I know people will say take him to the vet but I want to try to fix this organically.

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I would suggest sooner a mild full fat yoghurt, preferably containing Acidophil(?) and Bifidus bacteria added.    I have not heard whey is supposed to be a probiotic, and as it contains lactose, these lactose intolerant may have difficulties.

Another tip I believe much in - may help in many cases, is RAW goat milk.  If you dont know of a goat farm, I have heard many shops specializing on "natural food" does carry it.

Bottled, or cartooned goat milk is OK to use as good nourishment but its not the same healthy properties as natural enzymesl, natural antibodies and such.  - Much of these are destroyed in the pasteurizing process.

DE must be of food quality - or human quality, depends on brand

Garlic, yes, its more or less poisonous for cats.  Not so verry poisonous as many thinks, but still, nothing I would dare to experiment with in more than a very minute amount, unless really desperate. "garlic or life"

Likewise,  I dont know much about grounded pumpkin seeds for deworming.  But crushed plain pumpkin (in USA its sold as canned) is often used to controll the quality of poo.  Both against constipation, but also de facto some diarrheas.   If you are outside USA, you can try with crushed sweet potato instead.

Give pedialyte as water source if the diarrhea is heavy.

Here a link to a recent diskussion I did participated in.

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/301213/pedialyte-question-6-week-old-kitten#post_3778057

You are a naturalist, eh?  RAW honey is useful in may situations.  The same idea as raw goat milk: contains many natural enzymes and antibodies.   And as I propose using honey if you dont have access to glucose/dextrose sugar proper,  I presume you can have some raw honey as sugar source in this pedialyte...

If these tips above will help, I cant swear.  You will probably need to visit a good vet anyway in the end.

But none of them can hurt - and they MAY hlep.

Our new cat was having very loose and stinky stools and the vet recommended trying to check if it was a protein sensitivity. They told us to try feeding only one protein type (fish, chicken, or beef)  for a week or two at a time to see if things got better. We cut her back to only fish flavor canned food first and within days her poop was all better! After a week or so we gave her a chicken flavor canned food and she almost ran us out of the house with her stinky poop. We continued and tried different proteins and we have determined that red meats and fish are safe, but anything with feathers makes her stool really bad really quick.  It turns out she has a poultry allergy. 

  Maybe you can try limiting the protein types to see if that clears up the loose stool. 

I know many people who swear that switching to raw food solved those problems with their cats. Kibble is hard on the digestion for cats. At the least dry a novel protein like rabbit for 6 weeks and then slowly start adding other proteins in case of allergy. While Purina Fortiflora is not the very best probiotic out there I have read many, many reviews of it that credit it with helping their cats who have chronic diarrhea. You can get it on amazon for cheaper than the vet sells it

Ok, here is my take on it and I already know, you won't like me.

Doing "organic" healing and "Holistic" is fine. As long as you kill only yourself like Steve Jobs.

You have a responsibility here for an animal that is in your care, and whether you are a believer in esoteric healing methods or not does not change the fact that these methods are called "alternative medicine" for a reason: They do not work!

If they worked, there would be a scientific study and then they would simply be called "medicine".

Quite frankly, to have an animal in your care and using it as a specimen to experiment with your "organic" approach is unethical.If you think she has worms, there's a simple injection that will take care of it, plain and simple without pain, instead of giving her garlic, which is poisonous as another poster as pointed out.

Sorry if this sounds rude or cruel, but it is my firm believe that if you take care of an animal, that animal depends on you and you have an obligation to give it the best care you can afford. Not something that satisfies your belief system. The cat's need should come first, not your own.

Yeah, I know I sound harsh, but when it comes to health, the buck stops here.

I'd have to agree with Playerdark. There are many vets out there who take a more holistic and natural approach while still providing adequate medical care for your pet. Would you be willing to try one of those? While you wait and see which method works your cat may become sicker....

Playerdark said:

Ok, here is my take on it and I already know, you won't like me.

Doing "organic" healing and "Holistic" is fine. As long as you kill only yourself like Steve Jobs.

You have a responsibility here for an animal that is in your care, and whether you are a believer in esoteric healing methods or not does not change the fact that these methods are called "alternative medicine" for a reason: They do not work!

If they worked, there would be a scientific study and then they would simply be called "medicine".

Quite frankly, to have an animal in your care and using it as a specimen to experiment with your "organic" approach is unethical.If you think she has worms, there's a simple injection that will take care of it, plain and simple without pain, instead of giving her garlic, which is poisonous as another poster as pointed out.

Sorry if this sounds rude or cruel, but it is my firm believe that if you take care of an animal, that animal depends on you and you have an obligation to give it the best care you can afford. Not something that satisfies your belief system. The cat's need should come first, not your own.

Yeah, I know I sound harsh, but when it comes to health, the buck stops here.

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Totally agree with you, well said!