Every cat food is making my cats sick!

I've literally have fed anything that is suppose to be the best of the best as well as others. Blue Buffalo, Holistic foods like Luna Moon Solid Gold, Merrick (both wet and dry), Natures Variety Wet food, Friskies, Purina Proplan...

I use to feed them raw and boiled chicken, and they did well on that. But I kept getting critically sick from the raw meat.

I wanted to try Natures Variety Instinct Raw, but I'm not sure if I can handle the raw.

Any kind of wet food makes them sick.

Their Symptoms (to all or most foods):

-Vomiting

-Diarrhea

-Dry heaves

-Stomach Gurgling

-Gas

-lethargy

-Mouth frothing (only with friskies)

I am afraid to try anything like Science diet, as I have heard bad things about it too. I feel awful I cannot give them the raw chicken, but i could possibly die from the poisoning, then who will feed my babies?

Please, I need some help finding a good food!

I had just thought of this now,

My boyfriend and I use to get Tyson plain chicken breast, diced form. Would this be okay for them?

ingredients:Boneless Skinless Chicken with rib meat, water, contains 2% or less of the following: Canola Oil, Chicken Flavor, Chicken Stock, Dextrose, Flavors, Maltrodextrin, Molasses, Salt, Sugar, Yeast Extract

Calories: 100

Fat: 2.5g

Sodium:480

Can you get raw goat milk?  It would be worth the try.  Why, possibly even raw cow milk may work.  Much better than pasteurized.  This is somewhat risky, but at worsk they will get some diarrhea.

I am afraid to try anything like Science diet, as I have heard bad things about it too. I feel awful I cannot give them the raw chicken, but i could possibly die from the poisoning, then who will feed my babies?

Please, I need some help finding a good food!

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How old is your cat and how long has this been  going on for?  Have you tried human baby food chicken stage one (only stage one)?  Hill's (science diet) also makes a sensitive stomach formula.

You said your cat vomits on all wet food.  How about dry?  If he tolerates dry then maybe you just have to go with that.

chinakats said:

 
I've literally have fed anything that is suppose to be the best of the best as well as others. Blue Buffalo, Holistic foods like Luna Moon Solid Gold, Merrick (both wet and dry), Natures Variety Wet food, Friskies, Purina Proplan...

I use to feed them raw and boiled chicken, and they did well on that. But I kept getting critically sick from the raw meat.

I wanted to try Natures Variety Instinct Raw, but I'm not sure if I can handle the raw.

Any kind of wet food makes them sick.

Their Symptoms (to all or most foods):

-Vomiting

-Diarrhea

-Dry heaves

-Stomach Gurgling

-Gas

-lethargy

-Mouth frothing (only with friskies)

I am afraid to try anything like Science diet, as I have heard bad things about it too. I feel awful I cannot give them the raw chicken, but i could possibly die from the poisoning, then who will feed my babies?

Please, I need some help finding a good food!

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I'm sorry to hear that you'r having so many problems finding a good diet for your kitties. NVI raw was fully rejected by my kitties. They wouldn't even try it. I do give them some commercial raw. I feed them Rad Cat , Primal and Stella and Chewy's. Are you washing your hands thoroughly after handling the meat and sanitizing any tools you use? I've never had an issue with food borne illness from feeding raw. What you can also do is wear disposable gloves while handling any raw meat then once you dispose of them, wash your hands with an antibacterial soap. Feeding them just raw and /or boiled chicken is not a balanced diet. The commercial raw is complete and balanced. You can also add a supplement to cooked meat to make it complete and balanced. https://www.knowbetterpetfood.com/cat_food_u-stew

I hope you find something that works for all of you. 

StefanZ said:

 
Can you get raw goat milk?  It would be worth the try.  Why, possibly even raw cow milk may work.  Much better than pasteurized.  This is somewhat risky, but at worsk they will get some diarrhea.

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Cats are lactose Intolerant

StephenQ said:

 
How old is your cat and how long has this been  going on for?  Have you tried human baby food chicken stage one (only stage one)?  Hill's (science diet) also makes a sensitive stomach formula.

You said your cat vomits on all wet food.  How about dry?  If he tolerates dry then maybe you just have to go with that.

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They are both 1 years old. It was a few months ago I stopped raw. I'll definately have to try it, has a lot of people had success with it? And would it be okay to feed long term if it agrees with them? I'm just curious since baby food is more of a liquid than a solid haha.

They don't usually vomit with all dry food, but 9 times out of 10 it'll give them diarrhea

Kat0121 said:

 
I'm sorry to hear that you'r having so many problems finding a good diet for your kitties. NVI raw was fully rejected by my kitties. They wouldn't even try it. I do give them some commercial raw. I feed them Rad Cat , Primal and Stella and Chewy's. Are you washing your hands thoroughly after handling the meat and sanitizing any tools you use? I've never had an issue with food borne illness from feeding raw. What you can also do is wear disposable gloves while handling any raw meat then once you dispose of them, wash your hands with an antibacterial soap. Feeding them just raw and /or boiled chicken is not a balanced diet. The commercial raw is complete and balanced. You can also add a supplement to cooked meat to make it complete and balanced. https://www.knowbetterpetfood.com/cat_food_u-stew

I hope you find something that works for all of you. 

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I have a very weak immune system, so almost anything gets me sick> Everything was sanitized afterwords, but it was always a few hours after feeding I would get sick. I even fed local farmer's chicken to avoid any extra germs and bacteria.

I will have to look in some more commercial raw. The only one I can get a hold of is Nature's Variety in Chicken, rabbit or duck. Thanks for the help!

Kat0102, I have a very weak Immune system, almost anything gets me sick. I will have to look into commercial raw diets using gloves. The only raw diet I can get around here is the Natures Variety in Chicken, rabbit or duck. Thanks for the help!

(my first message to you didn't go though, so if another one pops up just ignore it.)

chinakats said:

Cats are lactose Intolerant

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Goat's milk has smaller proteins and is more easily tolerated than cow's milk. It does have lactose but for some reason a lot of lactose-intolerant people/animals can handle it.

Yeah, you can't just feed raw or cooked meat. It needs to be balanced with calcium and vitamins. If you go to the Raw and Homecooked subforum you should get some good advice about making a balanced homemade diet, and how to properly handle raw meat to avoid food-borne illness yourself.

Many of the commercial raw products have been pasteurized using a high-pressure process. Some stores also treat their meat for human consumption this way, so that might help you to not get sick too (I know Costco does, if you Google for more info I'm sure you'll find others). Nature's Variety raw is HPP treated so that should be safe, if your cats will eat it.

Baby food is just meant for sick cats, it can't be fed long-term as it isn't balanced.

Have you tried any of the limited-ingredient canned foods? It's hard to know exactly what your cats are sensitive to, a limited-ingredient food might help narrow it down. It sounds like you'd better stick to canned foods, dry may be a bit hard on their systems.

chinakats said:

 
Cats are lactose Intolerant

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You mean, YOUR cats are extremely lactose intolerant?   OK, so they wont manage unpasteurized milk, although its safer than common pasteurized milk.

But be as it may be, cats seems to manage nicely goat milk.   Lotsa of our forumists has very good results with goat milk. Also bottled, but raw is even better.

So I suspect, its really not the lactose, but the culprit its some protein being in cow milk, but not in goat milk.

Willowy said:

Goat's milk has smaller proteins and is more easily tolerated than cow's milk. It does have lactose but for some reason a lot of lactose-intolerant people/animals can handle it.

Yeah, you can't just feed raw or cooked meat. It needs to be balanced with calcium and vitamins. If you go to the Raw and Homecooked subforum you should get some good advice about making a balanced homemade diet, and how to properly handle raw meat to avoid food-borne illness yourself.

Many of the commercial raw products have been pasteurized using a high-pressure process. Some stores also treat their meat for human consumption this way, so that might help you to not get sick too (I know Costco does, if you Google for more info I'm sure you'll find others).

Have you tried any of the limited-ingredient canned foods? It's hard to know exactly what your cats are sensitive to, a limited-ingredient food might help narrow it down.

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It seems like a lot of the foods have more fruits and veggies than Meat. Also, ther eis almost always fish mixed in the chicken recipes I pick out, and neither of my cats can digest fish. I'm thinking that could be a reason. I'll check that forum out, thank you for the help!

StefanZ said:

 
You mean, YOUR cats are extremely lactose intolerant?   OK, so they wont manage unpasteurized milk, although its safer than common pasteurized milk.

But be as it may be, cats seems to manage nicely goat milk.   Lotsa of our forumists has very good results with goat milk. Also bottled, but raw is even better.

So I suspect, its really not the lactose, but the culprit its some protein being in cow milk, but not in goat milk.

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Sorry, yes my cats are lactose are intolerant. Luckily there is a goat farm nearby where I live, would it me safe right from the goat? Also, what will the milk do to help them?

chinakats said:

 
Kat0102, I have a very weak Immune system, almost anything gets me sick. I will have to look into commercial raw diets using gloves. The only raw diet I can get around here is the Natures Variety in Chicken, rabbit or duck. Thanks for the help!

(my first message to you didn't go though, so if another one pops up just ignore it.)

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That certainly doesn't help, does it? I applaud you for going to the lengths that you have to try to find a diet that suits your cats' needs while not making yourself sick. A lot of people wouldn't do that for an animal. 

This is a great website to go to to obtain information on making home cooked diets for cats http://catinfo.org

There is also a forum on this site that has tips and recipes for home cooked and raw diets. 

Goat's milk is just for a treat, but it's also very nutritious. And if you get it fresh from the goat, it should have some beneficial enzymes that may help settle their tummies. Don't give too much, maybe a tablespoon a day or so.

I know a lot of canned foods have fruits and veggies and other things cats don't need. But if they can tolerate it, I wouldn't quibble too much about the ingredients . Unfortunately, for some cats it can take a ridiculous amount of experimenting to find a food they can tolerate.

chinakats said:

 
 there is a goat farm nearby where I live, would it me safe right from the goat? Also, what will the milk do to help them?

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Yes, if the goat is healthy and they keep a normal, good hygiene routines, it should be safe.   

If you are still anxious,  make the change stepvise, very little in the beginning.

I have never heard about any negative drawbacks from goat milk.   Some forumite told her orphan kitten got constipation, its true, but it was just to have a little water.  A standard trick with kmr too.

Adult cats dont need milk, so normally it would be mostly as a treat, as Willowy mentions.

But your cats  have difficulties with most types of food.    So raw goat milk could be an substantial supplement for them.   Good and mild proteins, calcium, and a rather high niveu of fat, about 4 percent.   If necessary, they could probably survive mainly on goat milk!..

Raw Goat milk is often used as therapy on many cat animal, not just our beloved furry friends, but also for example,  sick leijons....  And people with sensitive stomach do too often manage goat milk nicely.

Kat0121 said:

 
That certainly doesn't help, does it? I applaud you for going to the lengths that you have to try to find a diet that suits your cats' needs while not making yourself sick. A lot of people wouldn't do that for an animal. 

This is a great website to go to to obtain information on making home cooked diets for cats

There is also a forum on this site that has tips and recipes for home cooked and raw diets. 

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Thank you so much! They're my babies, I want to make sure they eat what they are meant to. I will check that site out, thanks again!

Willowy said:

Goat's milk is just for a treat, but it's also very nutritious. And if you get it fresh from the goat, it should have some beneficial enzymes that may help settle their tummies. Don't give too much, maybe a tablespoon a day or so.

I know a lot of canned foods have fruits and veggies and other things cats don't need. But if they can tolerate it, I wouldn't quibble too much about the ingredients

. Unfortunately, for some cats it can take a ridiculous amount of experimenting to find a food they can tolerate.

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Yes, if the goat is healthy and they keep a normal, good hygiene routines, it should be safe.   

If you are still anxious,  make the change stepvise, very little in the beginning.

I have never heard about any negative drawbacks from goat milk.   Some forumite told her orphan kitten got constipation, its true, but it was just to have a little water.  A standard trick with kmr too.

Adult cats dont need milk, so normally it would be mostly as a treat, as Willowy mentions.

But your cats  have difficulties with most types of food.    So raw goat milk could be an substantial supplement for them.   Good and mild proteins, calcium, and a rather high niveu of fat, about 4 percent.   If necessary, they could probably survive mainly on goat milk!..

Raw Goat milk is often used as therapy on many cat animal, not just our beloved furry friends, but also for example,  sick leijons....  And people with sensitive stomach do too often manage goat milk nicely.
 

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Thank you both for the help. I will be visiting the farm as soon as I can. If they are able to tolerate it (I'm Sure they will), would it be okay to mix it in with their food every once in a while? Maybe as a permanent ingredient?

chinakats said:

 
Thank you both for the help. I will be visiting the farm as soon as I can. If they are able to tolerate it (I'm Sure they will), would it be okay to mix it in with their food every once in a while? Maybe as a permanent ingredient?

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Yes, why not?  I dont think there are any contra-indications, and it may be useful if they dont like milk (mine resident cats doesnt!).   Also, it is is useful in some recipe you want to follow.

Although dont boil it (long).  It will destroy some of the useful enzymes and antibacterial structures naturally occuring in unpasterized milk.

I mean, the milk will proceed to be harmless if you boil it, but the extra advantages will be lesser.

Good luck!

StefanZ said:

 
Yes, why not?  I dont think there are any contra-indications, and it may be useful if they dont like milk (mine resident cats doesnt!).   Also, it is is useful in some recipe you want to follow.

Although dont boil it (long).  It will destroy some of the useful enzymes and antibacterial structures naturally occuring in unpasterized milk.

I mean, the milk will proceed to be harmless if you boil it, but the extra advantages will be lesser.

Good luck!

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Okay thank you again. I will start making some food tonight, Hopefully getting some milk tomorrow morning to test first.