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I need some advice, my kitten, he is 7 month old. He became poorly this morning became very lathargic, wobbly on fe, very hot and bad breath, on looking noticed his molars are retained and gums very sore. I took him to the vets straight away and he was give a shot of strong anti biotics and some special food to suringe feed him as with his mouth sore he was reluctent to eat. His temprature was over 100 degrees. He is back at the vets tomorrow morning and possible blood tests if the fever hasnt subsided. What can i do to help him through the night ?there is very slight improvement but still very ill :-(
 

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I'm not sure if this is too late to be useful to you, but a few things:

A cat's temperature is usually between 101 and 102.5 degrees - most vets I've known don't consider it a fever until it's 103.5 or higher. You didn't say exactly what his temperature was, but over 100 isn't alarming; it could be completely normal.

For keeping him comfortable overnight, here's what I'd do. I'd set him up in a quiet corner of my bedroom, with food and clean water and a litter box close by (though I'd leave a few feet between all of these things, so food doesn't get into water and litter doesn't get into food or bed). That way, he doesn't have to go far for any necessities and I'm right there if there's a problem. Just keep an eye on him - pet him if that seems to comfort him, but be prepared to just let him be otherwise. Most feeling poorly cats don't want much fussing. In my experience, they do want to huddle under something, so if you have a chair or low table you could put his bed under, that might make him feel more secure.

Good luck, and I hope he's much improved by tomorrow morning!
 
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Hi thanks for your reply i cant remember the exactvtemprate (think i was so worried) but he said it was high for a cat so had to address that before anything else!
He was weighed an thankfully hasnt lost any weight since his castrate last week. I did what you said, i have had to line the tray with puppy pads for now as he was licking the litter so didnt want to let him ingest that, he used to try eat litter when younger and had cat flu but stopped when he was better. He made it on to my bed after his many attempts and amd asleep on my bed.
Iive stayed up most of the night to monitor his food/ water intake as his sore gums mean he can be reluctant but the special vet food can be watered down so he can lap it up.
He is still falling over if he tries to walk :-( seems a little brighter though and showing a tiny bit of interest in his surroundings
 

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I assume he's been back to the vet this morning? Any update or additional information from the vet on what the problem is? Best wishes to both of you. My kittens are about the same age and seeing them suffering is awful.
 
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His temprature is normal now but probably only positive at the moment. He still cant stand with out falling over, hes had blood tests this morning and most of them have came back fine but there is an indication of a virus, hes still waiting for results of coronavirus, which after googling it I hope its not as I has a high mortality rate :-/ hes been on a drip in vets all day and so they say he will probably become anemic to. Just been back to discuss things with the vet, hes goimg to be sent to the 24 hr vets for tonight then transfered to my usual vets tomorrow. Was awful not getting to say bye to him, just hope ill see him.again, hes getting the best possible chance to survive but I guess the rest is up to him, there is a good chance he wont make it. Vet said it might be something in his breeding as he sees it alot in pedigree cats. I feel so sad going home without him. He came to me ill and nearly died then, poor baby :-( hes so small for his age as well and hes only 1.8 kg! Ill see him tomorrow at 8 am,no sleep for me
 

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Oh how frightening. I'm so sorry both of you are going through this! I'm glad the fever has improved, and especially glad you've got him in thr right place to have the best chance of getting well.

I'm not sure where you're located, but around here (middle US), viruses are common, but FIP is not common at all. I hope that's the case with you, too, and that your vet is just attempting to rule it out. Can you call the breeder to ask them if they've had any cases, or if they're aware of any other illness making the rounds? They may have information that could help you and your vet help your little boy.

Take care and get what rest you can - your kitten is in the best place. Please keep us updated. I'm thinking of you and sending you both my best wishes.
 
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Thanks i need all the good vibes i can get at the minute, its awful hes always the one on my lap. My other kitten oliver is keeping me busy been naughty, he just climbed up my shelving unit and knocked everything off one by one with his paw.
Im in the uk, i think its rare here as well as the tests were sent to scotland to process which is a good 300 miles (though not as big as some distences in the US)
I have just spoke to the out of hours vet hes still on his drip, they say it seems neurological at the minute but hes not been there long as ambulance got caught in traffic. I will definetly see him tomorrow at half 8 and hopefully vet can tell me more later when i call.
Heres a picture of him and my otherr kitten when they were tiny (teddys not grown much just more fluffy and chunkier.

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I'm sorry to hear your kitten isn't feeling well. Hoping he makes a full recovery and sending lots of positive vibes for the little sweetheart <3 <3 <3
 
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Thanks. Vets just updated me via phone hes a little brighter but still very ill and still no answers as to whats wrong,poor guy. Just waiting for my dad to drive me tothe vets so I'm there when the ambulance drops him off
 

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Poor guy! I'm glad he's improved a bit, and I bet he's very happy to see you. You said they felt it might be neurological - did they have any further thoughts on that? How does he seem now?

I couldn't get your picture link to work, so I clicked your avatar to see your photos. Is he the little guy with the patches, and Oliver the one with more Himalayan coloring? They are both gorgeous, but that little patchy fellow, holy moly what a cutie!
 
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Hi I managed to upload some more pictures in my avatar page once my phone would let me. My main avatar pic is now teddy, my poorly boy. There are a few pics of him with the others to, 2 curled up to oliver- hes the multi coloured perdian type kitty. He was the runt, only 59 grams born, little fatty now. The one with the himalyan type markings is isis hes 10 month old now. Ive got 2 black kitties susie a disabled girl of 8, just put pic of her up and binx who was rescued from living in a cupboard, he has the same birthday as isis. 2 black kitties seem to move when I try take a picture of them so only one of them for now.
they arent sure yet what the cause of his symptoms are yet :-/ I was at the vets to see him arrive bleess him he looked better in himself but with a shaved neck and huge bandage on his foot to Keep drip in he looked a little sorry for himself. So good to see him though, he was purring away when I syarted stroking him, he tried to climb on me for a cuddle but fell over.. bless him.
I phoned an hour ago and still stable, not sure if he will be home over night tonight yet or going back to 24 hr vets will find out a little later
 

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Aww, Teddy is just so precious! (all of your cats are) ^_^ Really hope he gets well soon :) 
 
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Really need some advice now, im so so upet no idea what to do or what to think. He was at my regular vet all day, my dad took me to the vets tonight so we could take him to the over night vets, they said he was making slow progress, eating and using his tray on his own and although still bad on his feet, hes responding more, even purred at one of the nurses. When i got to the night vet they told me that euthinasia is a valid option if there is any improvement tomorrow. Was heart breaking as when the vet went to get forms to sign to admit him he wobbled over to me purring and wanting a cuddle. They still dont know what is wrong with him and i dont want to make a decission without facts, i dont want to give up on him of there is a chance but dont want him to hurt if there isnt :-( they did mention seeing a neuroligist for mri scan ect, i have really good insurance and they will cover up to £4,000 of veterinary fees for this condition, so far we are up to £500 so the cost isnt an issue if he has a chance im willing to take it but i dont want him to hurt if im been selfish
 

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You say your daytime vet seems to feel he's improving slowly, that he is eating, using the litterbox and that he came over to you for cuddles on his own when you went to see him, and also that you are in the fortunate and enviable position of not having to worry about cost. You don't know what's wrong, but the best guess seems to be something viral. You've still got some time to wait before you get the test results on the coronavirus, right?

If it were me, I would give him the chance to keep fighting. He's young, he's still eating, he's making small improvements, he's taking pleasure in some things and actively trying to engage in them when he goes to you to cuddle. You're right there and have a better grasp of where he's at, so if you feel strongly that he is suffering too much and doesn't seem like he can pull through, then okay. But from your description and your regular vet's description, this doesn't seem to be the case, so don't let the emergency vet pressure you into a decision you don't feel is right.

All my best wishes to you both. I'm so sorry you're going through this.
 
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Yeah im still waiting for results, my vet is going to ask for a toxoplasmosis test as well. His initial blood tests did suggest it was a virus as everything else was in normal range exept for his white blood cell count.
I really want to give him a chance, from what regular vets are saying he hasnt given up completely so feel i cant give up on him, i dont feel its his time. i dont want him to hurt right now i dont think he is, hes very ill but not distressed and at no point even the out of hours vets have said his condition has worsened. Thanks for your support just want to do the right thing by him, makes me feel abit happier In making the decision to fight for him, i have nothing to lose by giving him this chance and if the worst still happens at least in my mind ive done everything i can. Dunno i just dont think i could live with him been put to sleep because of a decission ive made :-(
My pets are my life, surrondef by all my babies, just an empty teddy shapped spot here
 

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I'm glad it helped! You're doing the best you know how for your baby. He's so lucky to have someone so devoted and so prepared caring for him and giving him the best possible chance.

Are you planning on going ahead with the MRI? How expensive is that? I hope you get some answers soon, so you know what you're fighting and are better able to decide the best course of action.

I looked at your pictures - you have some lovely cats! I really liked the one of Teddy, Isis and Oliver all on separate steps together. Oliver is the one who knocked me out wiith sheer adorableness, but they are all stinkin' cute.

I have two black moggies myself, both kittens, a giant six month old boy and a tiny seven month old girl. Before that, I had a beautiful blue tabby boy who would tolerate no other cat beside him. Love of my life; he passed away last year from kidney failure after almost 19 years with me. I did have to make that difficult decision for him - if at any point you want to hear about what went into it, let me know.

Please make sure you're getting rest yourself. I know you've got to be worried sick, and I am sure I wouldn't be sleeping much if I were you, but do take care of yourself! If nothing else, it will put you in a better frame of mind for making decisions for Teddy's care.
 

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By the way: I just ran this thread by a friend of mine with plenty of vet/rescue experience, and she was of the opinion that the night vet might have said that out of consideration for a client pursuing expensive medical treatment with which they couldn't guarantee success, and not necessarily as an indication on how they felt about Teddy's prospects.

From the sounds of it, you're doing the right thing :vibes::vibes::vibes:
 
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I often dont trust my ability to make a correct decision due to some of my circumstances at the minute :-/ been sat up all night wondering what could of caused his problems, i phoned out of hours vets ahain, she really isnt positive even asking to call through the night if I decided euthernasia is the best thing as hes sleepy, she said something about a virus or trauma or bad breeding Hope your friend is right, ive gotten two very different reactions from both vets, my vets seemed to think I should only send him to over night vets as a precaution as my insurance will pay so might as well give him best care ;-/ im going to ask about the possibility of a mri scan with the vets tomorrow , worth a look into. Keep thinkimg does his neuter have anything to with it as he has been wrird since the op, no major changesbjust not quiet right :-/ just blaming myself really. More confused about the coronavirus/ fip more than ever thanks to google, think imscaring myself. Some articles I read seem possible and some really don't sound like it at all. I tried to sleep as suggestrd but at nearly 2am still awake. To much thinking and the coffee I had earliee probably didnt help (I dont usually drink cafine but I thought s ginger bread latte might of cheered me up lol
id definetly like some advice if I do need to make a decision of euthernasia, I know in circumstances it can be whats best but this decision has never been 100% my decision as only pets ive had euthernised were family pets which is very different was hard enough when my bunnie rabbit died on my arms, she went naturally though sad im sure she waited for me to come to die as she was begging to be out then when on my knee just gave up :-(
My labrador collie cross is best in these kind of situations hes so goofy with his huge slobbery chops and enthusiastic naturate that you have to laugh at him. Hes stayed by my side all night
 

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DR. GOOGLE IS THE WORST. I bet you're terrified after googling! I'm not foolish enough to think you'll stop googling if told to, but if you can find anything else to distract yourself, even for a little, please do! Google will drive you mad.

For example: About six weeks ago, my little girl was playing hard and collided face first with the wall. She ended up with unequal pupils, a scratch on her cornea and some haze inside her eyeball. She went to the emergency vet, then to my vet the next day, and they said mild head trauma, prescribed some drops for her eye to keep it from getting infected while it healed, and said otherwise she was presenting as a perfectly healthy kitten and would be just fine.

I went home and googled uveitis, part of my vet's diagnosis, just so I could get an idea on how quickly it would clear up - long story short, within 24 hours I was crying uncontrollably, sure that her eye would have to be removed and that she was permanently neurologically damaged. Within 48 I was at an emergency appointment with my state's traveling veterinary ophthalmologist, who looked in her eye, told me she was fine and the drops were no longer necessary, and charged me $160 for the experience.

Anyway: I would put more weight on your regular vet's opinion, and I strongly recommend that, unless there is some sudden terrible crisis, you talk to them first if you begin weighing euthanasia more seriously. I know it's impossible not to second-guess yourself when you're responsible for another creature's wellbeing, but from here it looks like you are doing everything right.
 
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