Guessing kittens' age? When do they start venturing beyond their "nest"?

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There's a small litter of feral kittens beneath my back porch (and, at times, zooming all over it) and so far they seem content to hang out with each other and mama cat.  I don't want to capture them too early, but I'm also apprehensive for their safety since we live near a busy street.  The yard is mostly fenced in, but I know they watch the feral adults leave and enter through the "doorway".  

It would bring me peace of mind if I knew exactly when they're going to start asserting their independence, or when curiosity will get the better of them.
 

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It really varies kitten to kitten. They will not part from mom until after the time when you should already have separated them though, if you want to have the best results in terms of socialization. Generally,t he earlier you can capture and begin to socialize the feral kittens the better, with the caveat that they should stay with mom for AT LEAST 6-8 weeks. (6 weeks is usually way too early to take a kitten from mom, but in this specific case, it can be okay, especially if you are concerned it might take you some days/weeks to trap the kittens for whatever reason and you want to have some time cushion built in).  While some people have even been successful socializing adult ferals, the truth is that as kittens get older they get harder and harder to completely socialize, so grabbing them on the younger side is a good thing.

How old are they now? How do you plan to catch them? Have you done this before or do you need advice on these subjects?
 
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It really varies kitten to kitten. They will not part from mom until after the time when you should already have separated them though, if you want to have the best results in terms of socialization. Generally,t he earlier you can capture and begin to socialize the feral kittens the better, with the caveat that they should stay with mom for AT LEAST 6-8 weeks. (6 weeks is usually way too early to take a kitten from mom, but in this specific case, it can be okay, especially if you are concerned it might take you some days/weeks to trap the kittens for whatever reason and you want to have some time cushion built in).  While some people have even been successful socializing adult ferals, the truth is that as kittens get older they get harder and harder to completely socialize, so grabbing them on the younger side is a good thing.

How old are they now? How do you plan to catch them? Have you done this before or do you need advice on these subjects?
I *think* they're 7-8 weeks old.  I'm getting individual traps later today from a person who works with a local rescue org.  I still haven't figured out what the best plan of capture is and am open to suggestions.  I wondered if I should feed everyone in "dead traps" for a couple of days before setting them.  I don't know if it would make the process easier or not.  

There are four to catch, I'm going to try to get pictures of them later so people can estimate their age (and see how adorable they are!), and now I need to dash for a bit.  

Thanks for the response!
 
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This is the feral mama and babies currently residing on/beneath my back porch.  The plates are standard dinner plates.  (A few kitties are a little wet because they got spritzed with rain when climbing up onto the covered porch.)  So...how old do we think these kittens are?
































 

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Oh cuteness overload :heart4:

I'm guessing they are about 6 weeks old :D
 
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Oh cuteness overload


I'm guessing they are about 6 weeks old
Whoa!  That young?!  I guess my 8 weeks estimate was a little off 
  In a way, it's actually a relief.  I can gradually work on socialization (as much as hovering, hawk-eyed mama will let me, that is) for another 2-3 weeks before I have to start thinking about how best to trap them.

If anyone else would like to weigh in (pun intended!), feel free to contribute a guess 


By the by, anyone in the Pittsburgh, PA area to Morgantown WV, if you're interested in adopting one of these little beauties when they're ready, I'd be more than happy to bring you a kitty.  They'll be getting tested, vaccinated, flea-treated, dewormed, microchipped, and possibly fixed (depending on weight at time of capture), and the rescue org. I'm working with charges a $65 adoption fee (to help defray costs associated with getting the animals ready for adoption).  

I'm pretty sure the tabbies ("the dynamic duo") should be placed together, since they share a special bond and have similar temperaments (a little bolder and more adventurous than the calico and marmalade).
 
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Night pics!  














Taken without a flash to avoid frightening anyone.  The gray and white calico is a member of the colony, the marmalade in the last pic is dad.  

Feel free to let me know if I go overboard with the photo sharing! 
 

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Whoa!  That young?!  I guess my 8 weeks estimate was a little off :doh3:   In a way, it's actually a relief.  I can gradually work on socialization (as much as hovering, hawk-eyed mama will let me, that is) for another 2-3 weeks before I have to start thinking about how best to trap them.

If anyone else would like to weigh in (pun intended!), feel free to contribute a guess :)

By the by, anyone in the Pittsburgh, PA area to Morgantown WV, if you're interested in adopting one of these little beauties when they're ready, I'd be more than happy to bring you a kitty.  They'll be getting tested, vaccinated, flea-treated, dewormed, microchipped, and possibly fixed (depending on weight at time of capture), and the rescue org. I'm working with charges a $65 adoption fee (to help defray costs associated with getting the animals ready for adoption).  

I'm pretty sure the tabbies ("the dynamic duo") should be placed together, since they share a special bond and have similar temperaments (a little bolder and more adventurous than the calico and marmalade).
They could be more like 8 weeks, I was just guessing :D I'm more use to maine coon kittens which are huge compared to domestic kittens. So I could be way off with my guessing :lol3:
 
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They could be more like 8 weeks, I was just guessing
I'm more use to maine coon kittens which are huge compared to domestic kittens. So I could be way off with my guessing
I know someone with a Maine Coon and could not *believe* how huge it was as a kitten.  Little baby mountain lion!  
 
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