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Ah, yes, now I don't see any red; it must have just been her undercoat or a reflection. So no red kittens :(. Her girls will be torties if the daddy was red.
 
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oh my he is gorgeous! look at that hair, flawless! what shampoo does he use because i could do with some of that myself haha *jokes*. thank you, she is a beautiful cat, i cant understand why anybody would just abandon her and leave her out in the cold, although i do appreciate she may have run away or got lost, but she was so hungry and skinny when i took her in.

so what colour kittens could she possibly have, just going by her colour of course because the dad could be one of three males, as far as im aware anyway!
 

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Well it certainly seems like she's found a forever loving home with you now. She looks well settled in, relaxed and at home :rbheart:

Right colours - so boy kittens always take their colour genes from their mother. So the boys will either be -
Brown tabbies
Solid black
Possible blue tabbies or solid blues if both parents carry the blue gene.
All with or without white if the father has some white.

Females this is harder depends on who the father was as girl kittens take one colour gene from mother and one from father. So given the three possible fathers

Father number one black and white one could produce -

Solid black
Brown tabbies
Solid blue or blue tabbies if both parents carry the blue gene
All with or without white

Father number two red/Ginger one could produce -

Brown tortie tabbies
Tortoiseshell
Blue tortie tabbies and blue torties if both parent carry the blue gene
None with white unless this red boy as some white on him

Now the white father - this is where it gets more complicated. White is a masking colour - it masks all other colours. So even though he is white to look at he could genetically be a red, brown, black, blue cat under that white coat.
So he could produce any colour kitten. Including all white kittens like himself.

Now it's alway possible that your female mated with just one or two or all three of these boys. ;) So these kittens could have different fathers - making it even more complicated lol :lol3:

Also your girl is shorthaired. The red father is long haired and also the white boy is longhaired. You don't state what the black and white boy is. But any way the shorthaired gene is dominant over the longhaired gene.
So all the kittens will be shorthaired regardless of who the father was. UNLESS your girl also carries the longhair gene. Then I think it something like one in four of the kittens might be longhaired.
 
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Woah, i think she probably only mated with one, I hope so anyway because otherwise I'm getting them all on Jeremy Kyle ha.

I didn't realise one cat could have kittens in so many different colour variations, and that's just assuming one of those is the father. Where did you learn all of this, do you work with cats?

Thank you so much for this, I Quess it's just a waiting game and see what colour kittens my girl has :-)
 

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Yeah sorry I got that wrong:/ a brown tabby i used to have(she went from house to house when we went to Virginia and her owner as of then gave up the 3 week old kittens to a shelter,that was 5 years or more ago) had orange tabby kittens,brown tabbies,a black,and a torbie...but the father was indeed a orange tom cat......sorry about that ,but Im not sure anyone could find out what color Sages might be...and we may not have to wait long to know she's been looking for a place and has been extremely clingy....
 

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And the wait is the best part,because once they're here they grow so fast that if you'll blink you'll swear you'll miss something ...but the wait makes you impatient it also seems to bring on a new level of understanding between you and your cats,because after those almost 9 weeks you spend with the mother when she's pregnant ...she'll spend the rest of her time caring for her kittens ...developing a growing bond that will last forever.And you will stand in awe at the adorable and undoubtable sweet nature of a mother and her babies.
 

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Yeah sorry I got that wrong:/ a brown tabby i used to have(she went from house to house when we went to Virginia and her owner as of then gave up the 3 week old kittens to a shelter,that was 5 years or more ago) had orange tabby kittens,brown tabbies,a black,and a torbie...but the father was indeed a orange tom cat......sorry about that ,but Im not sure anyone could find out what color Sages might be...and we may not have to wait long to know she's been looking for a place and has been extremely clingy....
Excellent news, have her mammary glands developed? Has she got milk?I'm still waiting on Tigger, according to the vet were at day 59 now so should see something soon...anything lol! Good luck and I hope everything goes well for you are Sage :-)
 

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Woah, i think she probably only mated with one, I hope so anyway because otherwise I'm getting them all on Jeremy Kyle ha.

I didn't realise one cat could have kittens in so many different colour variations, and that's just assuming one of those is the father. Where did you learn all of this, do you work with cats?

Thank you so much for this, I Quess it's just a waiting game and see what colour kittens my girl has :-)
Yes I do work with cats and dogs but how I know about cat coat colour genetics is because I am a ethical pedigree cat breeder on a very small scale. :D I breed pedigree maine coons - specialising in blue and brown tabbies. Now to be an ethical cat breeder and having my cats part of a controlled breeding program means I need to know all about cat genetics in general. So this as taken many years of learning and understanding and Im still learning new things all the time - Also I still find it confusing lol :lol3:


Yeah sorry I got that wrong:/ a brown tabby i used to have(she went from house to house when we went to Virginia and her owner as of then gave up the 3 week old kittens to a shelter,that was 5 years or more ago) had orange tabby kittens,brown tabbies,a black,and a torbie...but the father was indeed a orange tom cat......sorry about that ,but Im not sure anyone could find out what color Sages might be...and we may not have to wait long to know she's been looking for a place and has been extremely clingy....
I can tell you what kitten colours are possible from your Sage and your blue boy - blue colours are a speciality of mine, it's the coat colour I breed myself.

So Sage is either a very beautiful dilute tortie lynx point or a dilute tortie and white. It doesn't matter which as both have exactly the same colours involved just different patterns that all.

If she does have a pointed pattern none of the kittens will have the pointed pattern unless your blue boy carries the pointed pattern too. It is very unlikely he will as the pointed pattern is quite unusual in domestic cats. The pointed pattern is recessive so the kittens need to inherit two copies of the gene one from mother and one from father to be pointed themselves. So unless your blue boy carries a copy of this gene he cannot pass this gene on which means no pointed kittens.

Sage is a dilute tortie and a dilute tortie is blue ( which is the dilute of black ) and cream ( which is the dilute of red ). She also has the white gene ( whether this is caused by the pointed gene or the white spotting gene )

Your blue boy has two copies of the dilute blue gene - that's how he is a blue colour :D

Now male kittens always get their coat colour genes from their mother. Sage is blue and cream so they are the only two colours she can pass on, so male kittens will be either cream or blue. Sage also carries the tabby pattern where their father carries the solid gene.

So possible colours and patterns for male kittens will be-
Solid blue
Solid cream
Blue tabby
Cream tabby
All with or without white as Sage carries a white gene of some kind.

Female kittens take one coat colour gene from mother and one coat colour gene from father. Sage can pass on either blue or cream and the father can ONLY pass on blue.

So possible colours and patterns for female kittens will be -
Solid blue
Dilute tortie ( blue and cream )
Blue tabby
Dilute torbie ( blue and cream with a tabby pattern )
All with or without white

So it looks like you are going to get more blue coloured kittens. As all the females kittens will have blue on them as either just blue or blue and cream. And roughly half the boys will be blue the other half cream. So on average 75% of the kittens blue coloured and 25% cream.
 
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I really hope I get cream never had a cream cat before...thanks Gemsgem;) I have all blue (except for sage & faith)cats...Bentear(my tom cat) is a third generation blue cat ....that's what happens when your between houses and the people that cared for your cats claimed they got them spayed and neutered my family came home to a very pregnant longhaired blue cat who's mate was out of our nieghbors litter.she had two litters before she was spayed one was of Bentear and 6 siblings ...three of which were soild gray,the other three Ironically were gray tabbies.So I wouldn't doubt they'd come out tabby...thanks again I haven't check if her milk dropped because last night I could feel the kittens I counted 2-3 but I definatly hope all gos well.Both parents carry longhair is their a chance the kits could
 

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I really hope I get cream never had a cream cat before...thanks Gemsgem;) I have all blue (except for sage & faith)cats...Bentear(my tom cat) is a third generation blue cat ....that's what happens when your between houses and the people that cared for your cats claimed they got them spayed and neutered my family came home to a very pregnant longhaired blue cat who's mate was out of our nieghbors litter.she had two litters before she was spayed one was of Bentear and 6 siblings ...three of which were soild gray,the other three Ironically were gray tabbies.So I wouldn't doubt they'd come out tabby...thanks again I haven't check if her milk dropped because last night I could feel the kittens I counted 2-3 but I definatly hope all gos well.Both parents carry longhair is their a chance the kits could
Wow I'm jealous of all the blue cats lol :lol3: blue cat are my fav :D

Yes as long as BOTH the parents carry the longhair gene it is possible to get a longhaired kitten in the litter ;)
 

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Hey any more developments on Sage? Tigger has been behaving quite odd the last couple of hours. She been getting under my bed for a few days which.I have blocked of because if she had them under there they'd have to stay there. But today she opened my draw under my wardrobe, don't ask me how, took my clothes out and climbed behind the drawer. She also took some items of clothing with her. Also she's been off her food most of the day. She's eaten some regular cat food, but she will only eat the jelly from the kitten food. And her belly feels quite hard aswel whereas earlier it wasn't!
 
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Sounds like she is not far off. Keep checking her bum area for the mucus plug coming away also she might get few spots of blood coming away. These are first stages of labour beginning :D
 

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really? Exciting
 best not get too excited though! I have checked her bum area, there's no signs of wetness yet but I will keep a close eye on her. thanks
 
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Sage should have them soon my mom really wants a bluecream,although blue cream would be nice but I'm just hoping for a safe delivery and for atleast one to be a bobtail.Shes been nesting....but still no milk.
 

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Tiggers the same, her appetite is back now. But she's still searching the house for a quiet corner! And her stomach is still really hard! I'm trying to be patient. Still no milk here either.
 

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I wonder if Tigger and Sage will have them on the same day since they seem about the same in how far along they are....but you never know.
 

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I wonder if Tigger and Sage will have them on the same day since they seem about the same in how far along they are....but you never know.
That would be pretty awesome. Especially given the fact were in different countries :-) I'm starting to think she will never part with them!
 

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The one of you might be able to help me (fingers crossed). My Tiggers baby sadly passed away. She seems to be looking around the house a lot and getting into weird places. Is there anything I can do to comfort her, or will she move on in her own time. Last night she was so restless :(
 

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OMG !!! I am so sorry for your and Tiggers loss :rbheart:

She will come though it in time but I know it breaks your heart when you see them looking for their baby. The best thing you can do is try and keep her occupied to keep her mind off it. Lots of playing with toys. I know that's hard to at night when you are trying to sleep. But if you can keep her busy in the day and evening especially if you can tire her out by playing with her, so she sleeps better though the night. ;)
 
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