Stubborn herpes infection? Add Lactoferrin in addition to Lysine

Thank you for addressing the GI question!

Well, I got the stamp of approval from the vet today!  I took Molly in to our new vet for a check up, told her what we're doing for Molly's IBD and FHV and when I told her about the lactoferrin, she said "GREAT!  Keep doing that."  She says if I stop it, it may cause a flare with the red puffy eyes or other FHV symptoms.  She was all for continuing it indefinitely.  

I told her I give the lactoferrin mostly now and not the lysine and she said that's fine, obviously it's working....  

betsygee said:

Well, I got the stamp of approval from the vet today!  I took Molly in to our new vet for a check up, told her what we're doing for Molly's IBD and FHV and when I told her about the lactoferrin, she said "GREAT!  Keep doing that."  She says if I stop it, it may cause a flare with the red puffy eyes or other FHV symptoms.  She was all for continuing it indefinitely.  





I told her I give the lactoferrin mostly now and not the lysine and she said that's fine, obviously it's working....  

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Awesome! Glad to hear that this is working so well for Molly.

Just bought it in Amazon! I've been wanting to try this on my herpes cat, because it seems like the l-lysine isn't working as well as I would like it to. I can't wait to try it out and have my cat feeling even a little bit better!

I've been using the Lactoferrin on my herpes cat for a couple days and can see a significant improvement! I don't know if it's just me wanting to see improvement, because it's only been a couple days, but he's much more energetic because he's not as sneezy and his eyes have totally cleared up. His breathing isn't as stuffy either!!!

molldee said:

 
I've been using the Lactoferrin on my herpes cat for a couple days and can see a significant improvement! I don't know if it's just me wanting to see improvement, because it's only been a couple days, but he's much more energetic because he's not as sneezy and his eyes have totally cleared up. His breathing isn't as stuffy either!!!

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Isn't it great to see them feeling better?  I can tell Molly is feeling better, too.  She plays more and is more sociable. I am still putting lysine in her food 2-3 times a week as well because I'm not sure exactly what combo worked for her but she seems to eat more when I use just lactoferrin.  I think Laurie or somebody on this thread said lysine is salty tasting (I keep meaning to try it myself but always forget LOL) so maybe that's why she eats better with just the lacto.  Molly also has IBD so I do whatever I can to keep her eating well.  

I am going to be trying the lactoferrin, also. I see that adults are being given half the contents of a 250mg capsule, twice per day. And that kittens should be given half the adult dosage.  Would a 7 month old who is 7.5 lbs still be considered a kitten or a cat, in terms of dosage? I'm thinking of going with something in-between, perhaps 1/3 a capsule twice per day. Would this be appropriate?

I think that makes sense. :nod:

Hmm, this product looks interesting.

(1) How do I know if I'm buying 'Bovine' Lactoferrin?  I looked at the Jarrow brand and I don't see 'Bovine' on it? 

(2) Edit - I see NOW 'Colostrum' (Bovine) - is that the same? 

cheers,

Marc 

The Yarrow lactoferrin is definitely bovine -- someone has already called the company and checked this and posted it.  The colostrum is a different product, you can use both and many people do (especially for themselves!) but the one under discussion is just concentrated lactoferrin.

Thanks - I ordered the Jarrow brand Lactoferrin. 

It's 60 pills @ 250mg/pill

How much should I give and how long would it take to notice a difference, if it's going to help? 

I have just posted about Bluebelle's eye infection and then read this thread!

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/274288/bluebelles-eye-infection

I already have a herpes cat (Wellington) who takes lysine daily as Enysil paste, sardine flavour, which helps him a lot. I have started Blubelle on it too, though so far it has not made any difference, so her problem may be different. But does anyone from Europe know if lacto-ferrin is easily available here? I will try to get some, for Wellington if not for Bluebelle.

I couldn't find it easily locally, I had to order it online. I wouldn't be surprised to find the same holds true there. Whatever brand it is, I would confirm with the manufacturer that it is bovine lactoferrin before buying any. They all seem to be marked "lactoferrin" yet there is a common one that is human lactoferrin made with transgenic rice. The funny thing is that even in people, the bovine lactoferrin proved to be more effective in studies. :lol3:

I went with Jarrow brand because that's what LDG recommended as bovine. I had to order it online to save- $28 online vrs $60+ in stores!

Unfortunately, I haven't seen a huge improvement in my cat after he's been on both lysine & lactoferrin for good two months now. He's almost out of the lactoferrin and I think I'll just keep him on a maintenance dose of the lysine. If he has a flare-up, I'll get more lactoferrin, or maybe the colostrum one instead.

@jennyranson: I purchased and fed colostrom to our little Tuxedo, Thomas for a bit when he first came to us. He was very tiny, skinny and we thought he might have been orphaned. We had no history on him. The colostrum was to boost his immunity.

Colostrum contains lactoferrin and a whole bunch of other natural nutrients such as vitamins, minerals, amino acids. If you are in switzerland and are interested in a local organic source, you might want to check out this company : http://www.swissbiocolostrum.com/en/.

They have three different sources of colostrum : Cow, Goat and Sheep

List of ingredients : http://www.swissbiocolostrum.com/en/ingredients.htm

I also use the Jarrow brand and thought I would check in here tonight to give an update. Perla's eye has not needed anything other than the Vetericyn gel to gently clean the outer eye in the mornings. She has not had a need for any of the eye drops that I have on hand for her nor has she needed the Steroidal eye drop since we started the supplement. There has been quite a significant improvement in her eye as far as the red sores erupting as well as the weepiness has diminished at least 50%. Still weepy but much improved. Still have her on the Lysine but at 250 mg. twice daily at this point with the added 1/2 capsule of Lactoferrin twice daily. I imagine her eye will always be weepy but I am very happy about the fact that she has had no flare ups of the red - oozing sores on the eyelids. :bigthumb: I imagine this is hit or miss (trial/error) with all of our kitties. What may work for some will not work for other's but it definitely is great to have all of these incredible and helpful options here on site to try for our ailing kitties !!!!!

ALSO !!!!!!!!!!! She also has been acting better - I don't know if this has anything to do with her eye feeling better BUT thought it worth mentioning. She is so much more loving !!!!!!! I think she feels better and has been coming out and sitting by me on the couch at night. :shocker: I GET :lol3: to pet her for the whole evening. If any of you know Perla - some do - this is not her !!! rincess: She has NEVER done this and it started a couple of weeks after the introduction to Lactoferrin. Who knows.............. but I will take it!!!! I am loving the LOVE from her. Even Larry mentioned at how friendly she has become and willing (WANTING) to be pet. :heart3:

I noticed you are in Canada @PushyLady, and that you ordered the Jarrow brand online and had to pay $28.  I am in the U.S. and ordered the exact same thing through Amazon and got 2 bottles for a total of $36 and change with free shipping (Amazon offers free shipping on orders over $36 which is why I ordered 2).  I find it really ironic that when I had a herpes eye ulcer myself, the doctor gave me a prescription and a free sample of a gel eye ointment to use that worked very well.  However, when I went to fill the prescription, Medicare wouldn't cover it, so I got a different medicine -- of course that one didn't even compare to the first one, so I decided to get the first one and pay for it myself -- but the cost of a tiny tube was over $200!  However, I was able to order it through Canada Drugs and they got it shipped from England (Americans cannot order drugs directly from England but we can from Canada and many do as they are MUCH cheaper there!)  The entire purchase including the shipping cost me $38.  It's so ironic that it's made by a well-known American company and they no longer produce it in England because they weren't making enough money.  Now they produce it in America and without insurance it would cost me $200, but I can get it from England, through Canada, for $38!  It works very well on active herpes ulcers in cats, also!

Since somebody is bound to ask what it was, it's an antiviral gel.  When it was made in England, they called it Virgan.  Now that it's made in America, they call it Zirgan.  It does not cause pain and doesnt have to be put in the eye every 2 hours like the other medicine.  It totally saved the eyes of a cat I rescued shortly after that, because the cat opthalmologist had never heard of it, and I just renewed my own prescription and used it on him and it was like a miracle.  She was impressed.  Here are the details:

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Virgan ointment is what the vet has given me to calm Bluebelle's eye. She said it was not a cure but would make her feel better while we waited for the results of the biopsy. It cost me 12 euros.