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alternative for Propulsid/cisapride?

post #1 of 11
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Harriet, one of the cats at my job, has been on Propulsid (cisapride) for years, along with lactulose.  I had been getting her cisapride from her vet, 10 mg twice a day.  My office just moved in June and the cats went to their new vet two weeks ago.  That vet only had 5 mg cisapride.  He also told me that now it's nearly impossible to get any more due to the FDA.  He said that some humans have been taking the veterinary supply for themselves (it was taken off the market for people years ago).  I don't know what I'm going to do when her supply runs out.  She's only getting half her usual dose.  The vet said there was another drug (Reglan?) but that it doesn't work as well.  Does anyone have a cat on Reglan?  Was your cat previously on Propulsid?  Is there any other option?

 

Some years ago I noticed Harriet going from one litter box to the next many times throughout the day, but she didn't produce anything.  After a couple of days and no stool I took her to the vet.  The vet was useless and she returned 5 times in the next couple of weeks before I took her somewhere else.  She's been on Propulsid & lactulose ever since.  The second vet said that for whatever reason she had gotten constipated and it might have stretched her colon (? not sure what part it was) and it formed a little bulge or pocket, and now all of her stool tends to catch in that area and builds up because she's unable to move it through herself.  That's what the Propulsid is for, plus lactulose to soften the stool.

 

Her stools tend to be fat and she doesn't go every day,  She also will poop on the floor if she's having trouble.  We have a large cage (from my boss' Labs) and I usually shut her in there with her box & food/water if she hasn't had a bowel movement in 24+ hours.  If she poops before I leave work, she's set free.  Otherwise she spends the night in the cage.  She ends up in the cage overnight maybe twice a week.  Because she lives in a retail store, we can't have her going on the floor.

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Some years ago I noticed Harriet going from one litter box to the next many times throughout the day, but she didn't produce anything.  After a couple of days and no stool I took her to the vet.  The vet was useless and she returned 5 times in the next couple of weeks before I took her somewhere else.  She's been on Propulsid & lactulose ever since.  The second vet said that for whatever reason she had gotten constipated and it might have stretched her colon (? not sure what part it was) and it formed a little bulge or pocket, and now all of her stool tends to catch in that area and builds up because she's unable to move it through herself.  That's what the Propulsid is for, plus lactulose to soften the stool.

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Hello poodlebone, sounds like Harriet has chronic constipation/megacolon (when the vet told you the constipation stretched her colon).  My cat has the same condition, for years now.  We've been through the same, tried Lactulose, Cicipride (Propulsid), with no consistent results .. what has helped finally for us was not cicipride or lactulose, but MIRALAX, I give him 1/2 teaspoon every other day, it has been a lifesaver for him, look into it, there are quite a few threads here..

(ps let her out of cage for goodness sakes, poop can be cleaned off the floor, she is sad sitting in a cage!!)

post #3 of 11
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Last year the vet did recommend Miralax.  She hasn't been getting it every day but if she doesn't go in two days she gets it.  She also gets it on Sundays because nobody at work is willing to give her pills or liquid, but mixing something into her food is easy.

 

As for letting her out of the cage, it is a problem because she's in a store.  Customers usually don't enjoy shopping someplace that has poop on the floor.  Putting her in the cage lets her know what she's supposed to do, and most of the time she does go withing 10 minutes of getting shut in.  Since I know she doesn't go every day, if she goes on Day 1 I don't worry about Day 2.  If by the end of Day 2 she hasn't gone, she goes to the cage.  Also, I leave earlier than some of my co-workers and they're instructed to check the box before leaving to let her out if she's gone.
 

post #4 of 11

IVE JUST GONE THROUGH THIS WITH MY CAT.... THEY WANTED TO PUT HER DOWN BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT SHE HAD A MASS IN HER RECTUM AREA... I LEFT THE VET AND TOOK HER TO A SPECIALIST WHERE THEY DID AN OSTIPATION..... MY CAT IS ON THE CIPASIDE AND A STOOL SOFTNER.....SHE IS GOING REGULARLY.... AFTER SOME RESEARCH THOUGH I HAVE ADDED SOME CANNED PUMPKIN TO HER WET FOOD..... SHE IS GOING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THINGS SEEM TO BE MOVING ALONG.... TRY SOME CANNED PUMPKIN IN THE FOOD.

post #5 of 11

You can still get Cisapride from a compounding pharmacy. I just reordered this medication from my local compounding pharmacy.  Or you an check with one of the mailorder compounding pharmacies like Roadrunner.

post #6 of 11

Have you tried any diet changes? I know many people have treated constipation and mega colon with a combo of diet changes and laxatives and miralax seems like the most popular. Here are some good threads to read through on the topic (http://www.thecatsite.com/t/205398/diet-to-manage-megacolon) and (http://www.thecatsite.com/t/262510/constipation-issues). The megacolon thread is a really interesting one with some great information- good luck!

post #7 of 11

My rescue cat came to me literally nearly dead, with multiple issues...a huge abscessed snake bite causing an open wound from her rib cage to the base of her tail, infested with maggots. Her digestive issues are not just the type usually described as mega colon, but include pelvic injury (probably from a car) which also broke both her back legs, never set, healed incorrectly.  She actually is shaped like the pointed end of a football, and the constriction causes her stool to become hard for her to pass.  She is on Cisapride, lactulose, pumpkin, Miralax and daily sub-Q fluids to assure sufficient fluids to her intestines.  I still have to be vigilant to prevent stool from becoming caught at the end of her tract and causing a hard obstruction.  I think we have made as many changes to her diet as are possible. 

post #8 of 11

Like all of you I have been through the same thing. I have a three year old orange tabby who had to go into the vet 3 times for constipation. It broke my heart seeing him trying to strain to poo. The Vet put him on Cisapride and he got bound up again. After the second visit he was put on laculose as well. For a while it worked wonders on him before his stool became TOO runny. Now he is on the same does of cisapride and laculose as needed. He has gained his weight back and looks as handsome as ever. I would recommend keeping them on the cisapride. I know it costs a lot. We are paying a $157 for one bottle that lasts 4 months but it is worth it.

post #9 of 11

Hello, James the Cat here. I too suffer from Megacolon. My human has told me my colon is 5 cm across in spots where a normal kitty's would be 2-3cm. I get horribly bound up and strain and struggle to make my number two in my kitty box. It can be horribly humiliating too when I have trouble and end up going #2 on the floor. For some reason I can never bury my poo when its on the strange fuzzy dirt in my humans house. I cannot dig through it though I sure try! It's almost as if they have covered the floor in some rough blanket wall to wall!  Several times Ive ended up at the emergency vet for a de-obstipation procedure. My human is so very terrified every time I go under anesthesia and honestly, Im not wild about it either... My human struggled with all manner of drugs and solutions. We tried Miralax, Pumpkin, Metamucil, Cisapride, Lactulose, Milk, you name it....

 

My human recently took me off my Cisapride altogether. He learned that in humans, Cisapride was taken off the market due to potentially deadly heart arrhythmia caused by this drug. He not only worries that I may suffer some type of cardiac event, but add to this my owner had a kitten in the past two years ( on a sidenote, they only brought home one kitten so I assume the rest of the litter didnt make it or perhaps mommy only had one kitten, bizarre...do humans only have one kitten at a time??/ really?) but I digress... they didnt want their youngling to get a hold of my medicine and potentially ingest this rather dangerous drug. I have to admist, human kittens are like walking talking clumsy disasters waiting to happen!! They run into walls, fall over, eat strange dirty things! If I were a human parent, I'd be worried too!!! 

 

So they now have me on a Miralax mix in my Fancy feast, they simply add a half teaspoon to my catfood gravy and sprinkle a few drops of water in until it dissolves, and when I do not poo for a day or more, I get a big syringe of Lactulose. I also get kitty treats for hairballs as they contain a bit of petrolium jelly as an ingredient and occasionally, I get a ribbon of Petromalt to "lubricate" things....Remember too, miralax is a "dose-to-effect" drug and the worst thing that will happen is the opposite of constipation with an overdose. It is non-toxic and relatively easy on the system. AND IT WORKS!!!

 

So that's my story and Ive been in good shape since coming off Cisapride. In my opinion, (then again, I am just a cat, but...) this drug is too dangerous and expensive to be worth the risk and cost. Especially since I have experienced great results since my human has kept me on Miralax, Petromalt, and the occasional dose of Lactulose when things get "hard"....I am also on wet food only. 

 

Best wishes to my fellow feline friends! 

 

Yours truly,

James the Cat

post #10 of 11

Hi All,

 

My kitty Tinker (who is17yrs.old) has recently been prescribed Cisapride in combination with a no-name-brand stool softener which works the same way as Miralax (it is called Clearlax here in Canada - brand name one is Restoralax).

 

I too want to take him off the Cisapride as it is expensive but cannot find anything else that does the same thing exactly - there are similar meds for the upper intestine and for the lower stomach but not for the lower intestine/colon.

 

My vet assures me he is no danger from the side effects humans experienced before Cisapride was taken off the market (only animal doctors can get it here now) but it still bothers me that humans can die from complications with it.

 

My question to all you folk is: Did your kitty yowl and scamper around just before or after trying to defecate before you got them regular?  And did the yowling cease once they were pooping at least every other day?

 

Tinker is now going every second day regularly, thinner, longer, softer poops when the Clearlax was added but still howls/yowls before and after visiting the litter box.  He sometimes decides to 'play' at this time too, knocking toys about and chasing them down the hall - which he doesn't do at any other time now that he is older.  The yowling is worrying me...

 

I can't afford extensive testing - I pay the vet 50.00/month and have for almost 3 years as it is, trying to get an existing bill paid (he had eye surgery) and am on a disability pension. That is now in addition to the 35/month for the Cisapride. The guilt about this is enormous.  The people at the clinic seem so disapproving that I can't pay for this or don't pay for that... and sometimes other people too - the attitude being that you should not have an animal if you can't pay for it's care.  I try and tell myself that he was living in a garbage alley eating pigeons and rats when I first made him mine, I wasn't disabled then and he got the very best of expensive care for 10 years.  It's not likely he would have been adopted at 12 and 1/2 years old when I had to take a pension as there are so many kittens who do not get adopted, so he was likely better off with me, getting much attention and love.  But now, now he might have a blockage or God forbid cancer and I'm just treating the symptoms... 

 

He does not go off on his own but rather stays near me most of the day.  He plays actively with me and seems bright-eyed and happy.  But then, he seems pretty happy when he is yowling/scampering too...

 

Maybe a few yowls and some scampering are normal for an old cat with mega-colon? 

 

Thanks for any suggestions.  Happy Cat-Loving to you all.

post #11 of 11

     my cat is taking cisapride and I get it from a compounding pharmacy, my vet orders it with a prescription and I don't have any trouble picking it up. you will need to have your vet send a prescription to a compounding pharmacy that's near where you live but I don't know if their is a limit on the milligrams or not I get 2.5mg. for my cat and he takes it 3 times a day.

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