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post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 

 Can i use the frontline plus for dogs on cats? is it the same? I have a 3 pack for dogs 23-44 lbs.. how do i determine how much per cat? I notice the little green container vial is the same size as a cat one but contains twice the amount of liquid..

post #2 of 30

NO!!!

Please do not give any medication labeled for a dog to a cat.

MANY cats have died this way.

Google it if you don't believe me.

post #3 of 30

Actually I just googled it and they are the same active ingredient. But the dosages are different. 

 

I would ask a vet who is a straight shooter.

 

http://catsabouttown.org/resources/flea-meds/frontline-plus-for-dog-vs-cat-formula/

 

post #4 of 30
Thread Starter 

I am thinking since one dose would do one dog up to 44lbs. I can at least do 4 - 10lb cats?

post #5 of 30

This is assuming the dose for a cat and dog of equal sizes is the same. Not a safe assumption.

post #6 of 30

Maybe if you call the cat rescue I posted the link for

http://catsabouttown.org/resources/flea-meds/frontline-plus-for-dog-vs-cat-formula/

they will tell you the appropriate dose. 

 

They have a phone number to call.

 

I am simply not qualified to tell you the correct dose and even if I was you shouldn't trust some random stranger on the internet with this one.

post #7 of 30

The dosing for cat and dog frontline/advantage/etc differs between the species it's meant for. I know this because my vet told me. Sadie (dog) had picked up fleas somewhere and I only had cat frontline at home, I called the vet and asked, she said I could apply it but it wouldn't last nearly as long because of the way the pesticide absorbs in cats is different than in dogs. You will have to speak to a vet about it, I don't know if the rescue can give you advice because of the legal liability. 

post #8 of 30
Thread Starter 

Ok, I came up with frontline for dogs 23-44lbs has 1.34ml vs 0.5ml for all cats 8 weeks and older on pet meds....Does anyone have a frontline for cats on hand to verify that dosage? I usually buy that kind at the vet and it cost me $70.00 for 6 but I have 16 cats jumping.gifI have used one container of the cat frontline  on 3 kittens before because i didnt want to poison them.... can someone help me with the math? if all cats get 0.5ml? how many cats per 1.34ml can i do?

post #9 of 30

You should really contact your vet to check the proper dosage before you try to administer the meds yourself. You have nothing to lose, a call to the vet is free.

post #10 of 30

You are also thinking you can accurately divide a large pipette into several doses.

post #11 of 30

Frontline is the only one you can do this with. But I do it all the time. Its the dosage you have to get advise on. I use a suringe to messure is out.

post #12 of 30

I do animal rescue and have researched this thoroughly. The ingredients of Frontline Plus are EXACTLY the same for dogs and cats. The dosage is .05 ml per lb. So, a 10-lb cat would get .5 ml. I purchase the Extra-Large dog size, which is 4.0 ml per tube. So, for 10-lb cats, that's 8 doses per tube! I empty a 4.0 ml tube into a small glass vial and measure out each dose using a 1-ml syringe (without the needle, of course). Then I use the syringe to apply each dose to the back of the cat's neck, just as you would with a tube. The cost difference is amazing, because the price for each tube is basically the same, whether 4.0 ml for an extra-large dog or .05 ml for a 9-lb cat! So, for example, if the cost for one .5 ml tube (a cat-size dose) is $10, the cost for one 4.0 ml tube (extra-large dog-size dose) is also $10. THEREFORE, instead of paying $10 per cat-size dose, I pay only $1.25 per dose. Other animal rescuers and I have been doing this for years, so SPREAD THE WORD! (Caveat: You can do the same thing with some generic brands of Frontline Plus, but not all! Just be sure you check the ingredients of the generic brand to make sure they are exactly the same as Frontline Plus, which is fipronil and S-methoprene. Some of the generic brands replace the S-methoprene with different ingredients for cats and dogs. For those brands, you CANNOT use the extra-large dog formula on cats!)

post #13 of 30

i looked on line and found that the chemicals in the dog and cat frontline are the same except that the cat stuff has 35% more of the stuff that prevents the flea larvae from hatching. i am wrestling with the same question. it only goes to figure that the same amount would be sufficient. HOWEVER, i am going to put a smaller dose on my babies, better safe than sorry; and apply accordingly. you can tell when it is wearing off. DO NOT use the frontline with the tick killer in it or you will kill your cat. when i go to the vet to get it, i will, of course ask them. you know how vets are though. they never want to give free advice.

post #14 of 30

1.24 cats

post #15 of 30

That is interesting rsmith and kimilou,

wow, what a cost saver to use the large dog product instead.  The stores around here do charge a bit more for the larger sizes, but not proportionally to the increase in ingredient amount.

 

Since Frontline (as is most of the products) is marketed for weight RANGES, I wouldn't be worried terribly about meticulously dosing.

ex. if you have a 1.34 ml dog vial and a 10 lb. cat, I'd administer half the vial and feel comfortable.

I'd rather give a wee too much than not enough.

 

There are line scores on the Frontline vial sides, though they are to help you grip, it does help you gauge where the liquid is.

 

And yeppers kimilou, I hear you on that vet attitude- that has been my experience.

If I actually get to talk to the vet, which is rare since the office personel and the vet techs want to field the calls and try to do the answering instead,

the vet will be vague and give me the "it could be, maybe not, we'd have to have a look, won't know until I do xyz..."

And being in such a rural part of Ameica, the choices of professional help are not endless- it's quite frustrating actually.

post #16 of 30

Check on luvmypetssupplystore..com for kits with large tubes and all the accessories you need to split into individual doses.  I have used it on my cats with no problems.

post #17 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmith271 View Post

I do animal rescue and have researched this thoroughly. The ingredients of Frontline Plus are EXACTLY the same for dogs and cats. The dosage is .05 ml per lb. So, a 10-lb cat would get .5 ml. I purchase the Extra-Large dog size, which is 4.0 ml per tube. So, for 10-lb cats, that's 8 doses per tube! I empty a 4.0 ml tube into a small glass vial and measure out each dose using a 1-ml syringe (without the needle, of course). Then I use the syringe to apply each dose to the back of the cat's neck, just as you would with a tube. The cost difference is amazing, because the price for each tube is basically the same, whether 4.0 ml for an extra-large dog or .05 ml for a 9-lb cat! So, for example, if the cost for one .5 ml tube (a cat-size dose) is $10, the cost for one 4.0 ml tube (extra-large dog-size dose) is also $10. THEREFORE, instead of paying $10 per cat-size dose, I pay only $1.25 per dose. Other animal rescuers and I have been doing this for years, so SPREAD THE WORD! (Caveat: You can do the same thing with some generic brands of Frontline Plus, but not all! Just be sure you check the ingredients of the generic brand to make sure they are exactly the same as Frontline Plus, which is fipronil and S-methoprene. Some of the generic brands replace the S-methoprene with different ingredients for cats and dogs. For those brands, you CANNOT use the extra-large dog formula on cats!)


Actually, the dog frontline has 8.8% methoprene and the cat frontline has 11.8% methoprene.  The fipronal is the same 9.8%   (according to Cats About Town Society)

post #18 of 30

And ya gotta woner why 3% more of that ingredient for cats makes a difference.  Do cats bed in the same place more, so there's more chance of larvae accumulating ...

do dogs excrete more skin oil readily and don't need more ... just pondering out loud ...

 

'tis odd.  ohwell.gif

post #19 of 30

They theorized that cats have fewer pores per square inch than dogs.   That would mean less is taken up in the body and a higher percentage is needed to get the same results.

post #20 of 30

Huh!  Good to know. 

I take it since it's become a not-so-well-kept-secret amongst shelter/catteries/multi homes,

that folks are having decent results, though, with using the dog formula.

 

Perhaps in a terribly infested initial situation - the cat concentration I would definately go with.

 

By the way, I do notice the cheaper brands of other active ingredients (even the Hartz, etc... brands are going with an etofenprox combo instead of the old fashioned pyrethrins, PBD etc...)

will often have S-methoprene as well.

 

I did a spreadsheet last week to get a "picture" of what ingredients are out there now, which brand has what and if each ingredient is safe for cats ...

it was quite the brain dazzler - geez!  Lots of choices out there for dogs and cats (and in some cases- ferrets).

post #21 of 30
The dosage for Frontline Plus for dogs is;

Cats; .5 ml

Dogs;
>22 lbs .67 ml
23-44 lbs  1.34 ml
45-88 lbs 2.68 ml
89-132 lbs 4.02 ml
post #22 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by ms cat love View Post

 Can i use the frontline plus for dogs on cats? is it the same? I have a 3 pack for dogs 23-44 lbs.. how do i determine how much per cat? I notice the little green container vial is the same size as a cat one but contains twice the amount of liquid..
The dosage of Frontline for dogs (if your using for cats) is;
Cats; .5 ml

Dogs;
>22 lbs .67 ml
23-44 lbs  1.34 ml
45-88 lbs 2.68 ml
89-132 lbs 4.02 ml
post #23 of 30
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Originally Posted by rad65 View Post

You should really contact your vet to check the proper dosage before you try to administer the meds yourself. You have nothing to lose, a call to the vet is free.

Yes, I agree with this completely!
post #24 of 30

MY VET TOLD ME I CAN USE FRONTLINE FOR DOGS ON MY CATS.....BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY CATS...IT SAVES ME MONEY...YOU GIVE THE CATS A REDUCED DOSAGE OF DOGS FRONTLINE...A LARGE DOG WOULD FLEA 4 OR 5 CATS DEPENDING ON THEIR WEIGHT...I HAVE DONE THIS FOR YEARS~ YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW MUCH YOU GIVE THE CATS....

post #25 of 30

Please don't shout at us. It is rude.

post #26 of 30

YES you can, but only with Frontline . I am a certified Vet Tech and I do it all the time. The dose for any size cat is .5 mls.  I buy a three pack of the extra larde dog size, then give my large dog his correct dose then the cats each .5 mls. In case you can't see it I am saying point 5 mls for cats.

 

The thing you CAN NEVER do is be using flea and tick spray, shampoo, and the like together or even in a two week period. That much will kill any animal. All the boxes say it has to be a four week period between doses if it happens to not work.  We tell our clients as long as it is Frontline or Advantage, you can give another in two weeks. JUst never with the other cheaper brands. I would say 95% of our clients have luck on the first try.

 

Good luck,

Melissa-Vettech

post #27 of 30

Just to make it a bit clearer, she says 0.5 ml per cat.  Not 5 ml as it may look.

post #28 of 30
Yes, we use the Frontline for dogs too for them and measure it out. Been using it for years. Saves a lot of money, but one has to know how to measure it out correctly.
post #29 of 30

You can do this with Advantage also. I was told this was ok by veterinary staff.  Been splitting it up on my cats & dogs for years and have never had a problem.

post #30 of 30

This is the chart I have always used for measurements.. http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/advantage.html

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