My little pet peeve

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Everyone has their little foibles.  The good news is, it doesn't make any difference, in the long run. 

Just because some organized body says there is no such thing as an orange cat doesn't mean that everyone (or even anyone) else will see it that way.  The world is full of examples.

Now, personally, it annoys me when people say "snuck" as the past tens of "sneak," "dove" as the past tense of "dive," and when anyone talks about their "hot water heater."  But I'm not going to stay up nights worrying about any of them, and, more and more, the dictionary (which is descriptive, rather than prescriptive, much to the annoyance of language purists) says I'm fighting a losing battle.
 

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Two things get me annoyed - one I think can be justified, the other not. The first is misuse of apostrophes - it absolutely infuriates me, though I know that these days it is not really taught in school, so it is unfair to blame people. But I get SO mad, as it is so simple to get right, and it SHOULD be taught in school. The other is a bit like yours - I feel mildly annoyed when people talk about 'white horses' because such a thing is actually very rare in nature and what most people see as a white horse is genetically a grey, and has almost certainly started as a darker colour and matured into 'white'. But why should people who are not horse peole know that, just as why should people know about 'orange' cats not being orange?
 

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Ah, the apostrophe thing.  I knew it was a losing battle when I saw the door behind the college dean's secretary's office that said, "Employee's Only."
 

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Regarding pet peeves, I HATE incorrect English.  For example:   "me and my husband".     "me and Paul",   etc.

Do you ever watch Judge Judy?    She always corrects incorrect English and I just love it.  The other day a litigant said "He ain't got no money".  You should have seen the look on Judge Judy's face!

Another example was one someone said  "I borrowed my friend the money".      It makes me want to scream.    You don't have to be a college graduate to know what is correct and what is incorrect.

Also - incorrect spelling on ads, commercials, etc.      A while back a local attorney advertising his services, said he specializes in   "seperations".    This was on TV.   I phoned his office, got his voice mail and told him it should be "separations".   I never heard back from him but in a few weeks the commercial was corrected.

Don't know why this bugs me so much ---- do any of you feel the same way?
 

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Why does it bother me so much when people call red cats "orange"? Orange is not a recognized cat color, but so what. Either is gray. Gray is called Blue. Either is brown, for that matter, which I only recently found out. Brown is actually officially called chocolate or seal. But I just hate it when people call red cats "orange". WHY? Why does it annoy me so much? It makes no sense for me to be so bothered by this. There is no such thing as an "orange" cat. The ginger shades are red.
But who cares, right? I do, for some unfathomable reason.

I absolutely hate it when people call red, cream, cinnamon, golden etc. cats orange (same goes for grey, tuxedo, flame point and other stuff like that)! It can pretty much mean any warm shade of cat, so without a picture I will have no idea what color they are really speaking about which bothers me because I like knowing what kind of cat is being discussed about. And to add to that brown cat list: brown tabbies are genetically black.


It's even worse when someone is asking what color their cat is and people keep misinforming them and saying "he's orange" (sometimes they do that even if they know the term is red, which IMO is like giving wrong directions on purpose to someone who's lost and asking for the right direction). And if they don't know the terms, they shouldn't be giving wrong answers either, guessing is a different thing but it should be mentioned that the person replying doesn't know/isn't sure what he/she is talking about.You don't call natural red head humans orange haired either, so why cats?

Without this post I wouldn't know what the heck is a ginger cat, and I think last year was the first time I ever heard about a 'buff' cat. I think using the wrong terms annoys me specially because english is not my first language, so terms like buff, ginger etc. are total gibberish to me when they are supposedly color terms. Ginger is a plant/spice to me and buff is a very muscular person..


I didn't use random terms when I was a kid, so I don't think being a breeder makes much of a difference here either, I just recognize different colors and patterns better now (for example the difference between a blue point and a lilac point, shaded and chinchilla).
 

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The other is a bit like yours - I feel mildly annoyed when people talk about 'white horses' because such a thing is actually very rare in nature and what most people see as a white horse is genetically a grey, and has almost certainly started as a darker colour and matured into 'white'. But why should people who are not horse peole know that, just as why should people know about 'orange' cats not being orange?
I assume horse owners know much better what color their horse is than a cat owner seems to know the color of their cat. If horse people know correct terms for the animal they have/are interested in, why isn't it so with cat people? It makes me think the lower appreciation to cat as a pet (they get dumped much more often than a horse or dog for example, so people just don't seem to be really interested in the animal they chose to live with. I see it as a lack of research which should have been done before getting the animal in question, what ever species it is, excluding random rescue cases).
 

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NorthernGlow, you have a point there about calling people redheads not orangeheads....

I am aware that "orange cats" are called red cats. (You'll really hate me for this one otto! :lol3: ) I still call them orange. If of course I was filling out some kind of registration form I would put "red tabby", but if I'm just referring to what color my cat is, I say orange. Because:

THIS is red:


THIS is orange:


Out of those two colors, what color is this cat closer to?



If my eyes see right, I think it's closer to orange. As to help on how to get rid of your pet peeve, I don't know if you can. :lol3:
 

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If my eyes see right, I think it's closer to orange. As to help on how to get rid of your pet peeve, I don't know if you can.
I'd hate to break this to you, but I think your cat is not orange OR red, he looks like a cream tabby!
 
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If my eyes see right, I think it's closer to orange. As to help on how to get rid of your pet peeve, I don't know if you can. :lol3:

I'd hate to break this to you, but I think your cat is not orange OR red, he looks like a cream tabby!:tongue2:
You know, you could be right! One of the reasons he stood out at the shelter was because he was a lighter "orange" than the other kittens. Sometimes he looks a bit darker, though. :dk:
 

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I don't know WHY we have some little "pet Peeves", thing's that just make us :cringe: We all have them and it is an interesting topic as to "the WHY's" ...... I love calling "red" cat's - Orange - and in fact I call my Perkin's OOORRRAAANNNGGGEEE - as a nickname. I also have a "blue/silver" cat - who is my grey boy. I do have some "pet peeves" - but not too many and I haven't a clue why they bother me :lol3:....
 
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You know, you could be right! One of the reasons he stood out at the shelter was because he was a lighter "orange" than the other kittens. Sometimes he looks a bit darker, though.
Nope, a cream is much lighter. He is ORANGE.  So  sez I.  :)  Or red as the cat fancy goes.
 

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I assume horse owners know much better what color their horse is than a cat owner seems to know the color of their cat. If horse people know correct terms for the animal they have/are interested in, why isn't it so with cat people? It makes me think the lower appreciation to cat as a pet (they get dumped much more often than a horse or dog for example, so people just don't seem to be really interested in the animal they chose to live with. I see it as a lack of research which should have been done before getting the animal in question, what ever species it is, excluding random rescue cases).
Well, I think one of the main differences between a horse and a cat is the cost. Horses cost a lot more than a cat (both to purchase, and to take care of), so probably more research is done on breeds simply based on the cost. I looked at getting a horse a few years ago when we first moved to the country and decided we just couldn't afford it. But some of them cost more than my car, and that was just to bring it home.

Now, for me, all my cats have been "random rescue cases" and I did my research, but I was more concerned with nutrition for kittens, epilepsy, feline herpes, etc, rather than worry about the proper term for their coloring. I can understand why its a pet peeve for breeders like you, and if I ever decide to show my cats I would use the correct terminology. But, since they are just my personal love bugs they are my orange tabby, my grays and my torties.
 
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To otto:
Hun, you KNOW my post was just a joke, right? :hugs:
Don't you go getting mad at me because I posted alllllllll those oranges there :lol3::lol3::lol3:
You know we luvs you "over heres" :heart3:

just wanted to say that.... before TCS I would not know at all what a "red" or Silver, or Lynx..... or even tabby was....... so....... I guess not everybody in so much into cats and cat educated like us :dk:

As to getting over pet peeves? I think the worst you try to..... the worst it gets :lol3:
:wavey:
 

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Well, I think one of the main differences between a horse and a cat is the cost. Horses cost a lot more than a cat (both to purchase, and to take care of), so probably more research is done on breeds simply based on the cost. I looked at getting a horse a few years ago when we first moved to the country and decided we just couldn't afford it. But some of them cost more than my car, and that was just to bring it home.

Now, for me, all my cats have been "random rescue cases" and I did my research, but I was more concerned with nutrition for kittens, epilepsy, feline herpes, etc, rather than worry about the proper term for their coloring. I can understand why its a pet peeve for breeders like you, and if I ever decide to show my cats I would use the correct terminology. But, since they are just my personal love bugs they are my orange tabby, my grays and my torties.
I don't have a clue how much a horse costs, but all cats aren't free/cheap either. But you got the point: because horse=money, it means much more to it's owners, whereas free/cheap cat="it's just there" for it's owners and can be easily gotten rid of when it's not fun anymore/becomes a burden=starts costing something (not meaning people on here obviously, this is generally speaking). That is sad. Something becomes interesting enough only if it's worth a lot/cost a lot to get.

By the 'random rescue cases' I meant just what you pretty much said: I don't assume anyone unfamiliar to cats to start doing a research on cat genetics or behavior when they find a starving kitten from the ditch, they want to know how to save it first. That's why I excluded the random rescues. It gets again a bit different if you plan the rescue before hand, then you have to (=should) do a more thorough research on cats if you plan on getting one. It's different when you have no plans to get one but one gets you instead.
 

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NorthernGlow, you have a point there about calling people redheads not orangeheads....
I am aware that "orange cats" are called red cats. (You'll really hate me for this one otto!
) I still call them orange. If of course I was filling out some kind of registration form I would put "red tabby", but if I'm just referring to what color my cat is, I say orange. Because:
THIS is red:

THIS is orange:

Out of those two colors, what color is this cat closer to?

If my eyes see right, I think it's closer to orange. As to help on how to get rid of your pet peeve, I don't know if you can.
Yup! He's a cream tabby :)
 

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Isn't he too dark for a cream?

My Peanut is a dark red



My Julie was a blue cream tabby



When someone says 'orange' it just shows what stage they are in, not a cut down to kittydom. It is hard to weed through all the myths. Someone told be red tabby come in male only. Just like calicos and torties. Not true. But that is what out there.Hard to clear things up when the public doesn't want to hear anything cat. You have to fish gentle, not throw the whole ancker at them.
 
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