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My cat is declawed but he has pulled out his nails and can't retract them!

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
What do I do?
post #2 of 24
Well, then he's not de-clawed. . .a de-clawed cat has had his nails entirely removed; it wouldn't be possible for his nails to do anything, since they got cut off and thrown away with the other medical waste. Do you suppose he had a tendonectomy? In any case, definitely call your vet. It could a neurological problem or a muscle problem, and if he's had his tendons cut it could be a BIG problem (the procedure is listed as "Not Recommended" by the AVMA, although it was popular at one time. Lots of complications).

ETA: if he really was de-clawed (as in, nails fully removed) and you're seeing claw re-growth now, that means the de-claw wasn't done properly and he'll need surgery to fix it. It's very painful for the cat so call the vet right away. If the de-claw was recent, it could also be bone sticking through the skin. . .big emergency.
Edited by Willowy - 12/18/11 at 11:21pm
post #3 of 24

You wouldn't be able to see a claw regrowth without obvious limping beforehand and eventually blood (the skin is closed after all), so it must be a tendonectomy and not a declaw which would have removed the dystal phalanx entirely so there is no claw nor possible germinal cells for one to regrow or the less common practice of leaving the bone and only shaving the claw off.

 

Regarding the procedure though, it is a bit misleading to say the AMVA is more against it compared to declaws as they have more or less a "not recommended" for ANY type of declaw: http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/apr03/030415c.asp unless I just have old info.   Comparing the two, they found that tendonectomies had no higher rate of complication compared to declaws.  

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While cats who received the tendonectomy showed significantly lower pain scores immediately post operatively, both procedures showed an equal frequency of other complications (bleeding, lameness, and infection). Owners had positive attitudes regarding both surgeries after the immediate postoperative period. Tendonectomy may be a humane alternative to onychectomy, although owners need to be advised that nail trimming is still necessary in cats after surgery. ( J Am Vet Med Assoc 2001;218:43–47)

In a tendonectomy, the claw shouldn't be able to stay pulled down though, so I'm a bit confused.  The natural state of rest has a tendon that causes it to stay retracted until the muscle below pulls on it, which it can't.   Can you elaborate a bit?

post #4 of 24
Ducman, you may want to review a more current AVMA link: "AVMA Policy: Declawing of Domestic Cats," (updated 4/2009) http://www.avma.org/issues/policy/animal_welfare/declawing.asp Fourth bullet point: "The surgical alternative of tendonectomy is not recommended."

madisonrenae: in order to provide any advice, we need more information. But that's really pretty moot - it seems a trip to the vet asap is in order. vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif vibes for your baby.
post #5 of 24
Lol, LDG beat me to it. I think there was a longer discussion as to why they no longer recommend tendonectomy, I'll try to find it.

I hope whatever is wrong with your kitty is fixed soon!
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by LDG View Post

Ducman, you may want to review a more current AVMA link

The same lines word-for-word were in the link I provided (4th line vs 4th bullet), I was just pointing out that it is not less recommended by the AVMA compared to onychectomy due to complication rate, as the complication rate was the same in their study.  smile.gif

post #7 of 24
Sorry, I assumed it wasn't in your link because of your statement. I don't know why it isn't recommended vs. onychectomy, but clearly the AVMA does not recommend tendonectomy, and cautions vets to educate people to alternatives to onychectomy.
post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the info. I will take him to the vet. I am just worried because I don't want him going under again for surgery. He's about a yr and a half old I don't know if that makes a difference. Whatever it is that was done to his paws was done around 4 months old. And it was only one claw that came out. But now recently its like 5 now. Like I said I just don't want hum to go under for surgery.
post #9 of 24

Can you post a picture?  I don't fully understand what "claw came out" means.

post #10 of 24

Yes, a picture might be good, as I'm wondering too, what this could actually be! 

 

vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif that your kitty gets "fixed" (I can't think of how else to put it, sorry laughing02.gif)  soon

post #11 of 24
So sorry your kitty is having this problem. I would absolutely take the cat into a vet right away. Please let us know how thing's go cross.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #12 of 24
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Have an appointment tonight. He won't let me take pictures. But ill update you guys later. Thanks for caring. I hate that most people I talk to don't care and just think any cat owner is a crazy cat woman.
post #13 of 24
I'm so glad you were able to get her an appointment. Hope all will be OK. vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
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vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif Glad you have that appt. Hope it goes well cross.gif

p.s. I have come to be proud of the "crazy cat lady" label bluelaugh.gif I am CRAZY about cat's clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif and I am a lady biggrin.gif
post #15 of 24

I have heard of claws regrowing (usually in a bad manner) from incorrectly done declawing.  That may be what we're dealing with here.

post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 
Mrblanche that's exactly what it was. The previous vet did NOT declaw correctly. He left fragments behind that were able to grow out. So this new vet who has seen this many times is going to fix it or re do the procedure. It was the worst appointment I'd ever been to just because I had never heard Toby scream at all and man did he use those lungs. The vet said he has been masking his pain and didn't like being touched. We get blood work back in a few days and we make another appointment for the surgery after he's cleared.
post #17 of 24

Yes, this is one of the unfortunate results of declawing.  Poor Toby.

post #18 of 24
OMG- hun, I am soooooo sorry and sooooo sad for you and Toby. My heart goes out to him. What a terrible situation. Please know we are here for you and are sending Toby loads and loads of vibes that he will be pain free after the surgery. This DOES happen with declaw's and many people don't realize that can happen. alright.gif SOOOO glad you have a plan now and Toby will be better soon agree.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #19 of 24
Poor kitty frown.gif
post #20 of 24

Poor little guy heartpump.gif.  In the meantime, is he on any pain meds or anything?  vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif that all goes well

 

post #21 of 24
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Hey guys I know its been a few weeks but Toby surgery was today. I just got a call from the vet. She said that everything went good. But it was very complicated to find all the bone fragments left behind by the previous vet. She says Toby is pretty angry right now, which makes me sad because hes the most loving boy ever. I just hope he doesn't hate me now. frown.gif
post #22 of 24
hugs.gif I am so sorry Toby and you had to go through this hugs.gif I am sure he will have pain meds and is really only frightened and in some pain, I don't think it is actually anger frown.gif. He will be happy to see you and to be able to come home. Can he come home today? Please keep us posted. Glad the surgery went well but sad it was complicated. I hope Toby will have no more issues now cross.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks! Toby had to stay over night. The vet said they tend to be to active too fast after surgery if they go home right away. I will pick him up tomorrow morning after they give him a minor sedative to take off his bandages. I will let you know how his recovery goes. But like we said the good thing is after this he won't be in pain anymore. I just can't wait to pick him up tomorrow! I'm sure I won't sleep tonight!
post #24 of 24

I'm so glad he got that issue fixed, and he shouldn't be angry with YOU, because you saw to it that he got it fixed, right?  He'll come back around in no time, I'm sure rub.gif

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