My cat is declawed but he has pulled out his nails and can't retract them!

Willowy

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Mar 1, 2009
Messages
31,900
Purraise
28,312
Location
South Dakota
Well, then he's not de-clawed. . .a de-clawed cat has had his nails entirely removed; it wouldn't be possible for his nails to do anything, since they got cut off and thrown away with the other medical waste. Do you suppose he had a tendonectomy? In any case, definitely call your vet. It could a neurological problem or a muscle problem, and if he's had his tendons cut it could be a BIG problem (the procedure is listed as "Not Recommended" by the AVMA, although it was popular at one time. Lots of complications).

ETA: if he really was de-clawed (as in, nails fully removed) and you're seeing claw re-growth now, that means the de-claw wasn't done properly and he'll need surgery to fix it. It's very painful for the cat so call the vet right away. If the de-claw was recent, it could also be bone sticking through the skin. . .big emergency.
 
Last edited:

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
You wouldn't be able to see a claw regrowth without obvious limping beforehand and eventually blood (the skin is closed after all), so it must be a tendonectomy and not a declaw which would have removed the dystal phalanx entirely so there is no claw nor possible germinal cells for one to regrow or the less common practice of leaving the bone and only shaving the claw off.

Regarding the procedure though, it is a bit misleading to say the AMVA is more against it compared to declaws as they have more or less a "not recommended" for ANY type of declaw: http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/apr03/030415c.asp  unless I just have old info.   Comparing the two, they found that tendonectomies had no higher rate of complication compared to declaws.  
While cats who received the tendonectomy showed significantly lower pain scores immediately post operatively, both procedures showed an equal frequency of other complications (bleeding, lameness, and infection). Owners had positive attitudes regarding both surgeries after the immediate postoperative period. Tendonectomy may be a humane alternative to onychectomy, although owners need to be advised that nail trimming is still necessary in cats after surgery. ( J Am Vet Med Assoc 2001;218:43–47)
In a tendonectomy, the claw shouldn't be able to stay pulled down though, so I'm a bit confused.  The natural state of rest has a tendon that causes it to stay retracted until the muscle below pulls on it, which it can't.   Can you elaborate a bit?
 
Last edited:

ldg

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 25, 2002
Messages
41,310
Purraise
843
Location
Fighting for ferals in NW NJ!
Ducman, you may want to review a more current AVMA link: "AVMA Policy: Declawing of Domestic Cats," (updated 4/2009) http://www.avma.org/issues/policy/animal_welfare/declawing.asp Fourth bullet point: "The surgical alternative of tendonectomy is not recommended."

madisonrenae: in order to provide any advice, we need more information. But that's really pretty moot - it seems a trip to the vet asap is in order. :vibes: :vibes: :vibes: :vibes: vibes for your baby.
 

Willowy

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Mar 1, 2009
Messages
31,900
Purraise
28,312
Location
South Dakota
Lol, LDG beat me to it. I think there was a longer discussion as to why they no longer recommend tendonectomy, I'll try to find it.

I hope whatever is wrong with your kitty is fixed soon!
 

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
Ducman, you may want to review a more current AVMA link
The same lines word-for-word were in the link I provided (4th line vs 4th bullet), I was just pointing out that it is not less recommended by the AVMA compared to onychectomy due to complication rate, as the complication rate was the same in their study.  
 
Last edited:

ldg

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 25, 2002
Messages
41,310
Purraise
843
Location
Fighting for ferals in NW NJ!
Sorry, I assumed it wasn't in your link because of your statement. I don't know why it isn't recommended vs. onychectomy, but clearly the AVMA does not recommend tendonectomy, and cautions vets to educate people to alternatives to onychectomy.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #8

madisonrenae

TCS Member
Thread starter
Kitten
Joined
Dec 18, 2011
Messages
6
Purraise
0
Thanks everyone for the info. I will take him to the vet. I am just worried because I don't want him going under again for surgery. He's about a yr and a half old I don't know if that makes a difference. Whatever it is that was done to his paws was done around 4 months old. And it was only one claw that came out. But now recently its like 5 now. Like I said I just don't want hum to go under for surgery.
 

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
Can you post a picture?  I don't fully understand what "claw came out" means.
 

mrsgreenjeens

Every Life Should Have Nine Cats
Staff Member
Advisor
Joined
Aug 13, 2009
Messages
16,470
Purraise
7,269
Location
Arizona
Yes, a picture might be good, as I'm wondering too, what this could actually be! 

that your kitty gets "fixed" (I can't think of how else to put it, sorry
)  soon
 

feralvr

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
18,474
Purraise
689
Location
Northwest Indiana
So sorry your kitty is having this problem. I would absolutely take the cat into a vet right away. Please let us know how thing's go :cross: :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #12

madisonrenae

TCS Member
Thread starter
Kitten
Joined
Dec 18, 2011
Messages
6
Purraise
0
Have an appointment tonight. He won't let me take pictures. But ill update you guys later. Thanks for caring. I hate that most people I talk to don't care and just think any cat owner is a crazy cat woman.
 

feralvr

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
18,474
Purraise
689
Location
Northwest Indiana
:vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes: Glad you have that appt. Hope it goes well :cross:

p.s. I have come to be proud of the "crazy cat lady" label :lol2: I am CRAZY about cat's :clap::clap::clap: and I am a lady :D
 

mrblanche

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 28, 2008
Messages
12,578
Purraise
119
Location
Texas
I have heard of claws regrowing (usually in a bad manner) from incorrectly done declawing.  That may be what we're dealing with here.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #16

madisonrenae

TCS Member
Thread starter
Kitten
Joined
Dec 18, 2011
Messages
6
Purraise
0
Mrblanche that's exactly what it was. The previous vet did NOT declaw correctly. He left fragments behind that were able to grow out. So this new vet who has seen this many times is going to fix it or re do the procedure. It was the worst appointment I'd ever been to just because I had never heard Toby scream at all and man did he use those lungs. The vet said he has been masking his pain and didn't like being touched. We get blood work back in a few days and we make another appointment for the surgery after he's cleared.
 

mrblanche

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 28, 2008
Messages
12,578
Purraise
119
Location
Texas
Yes, this is one of the unfortunate results of declawing.  Poor Toby.
 

feralvr

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
18,474
Purraise
689
Location
Northwest Indiana
OMG- hun, I am soooooo sorry and sooooo sad for you and Toby. My heart goes out to him. What a terrible situation. Please know we are here for you and are sending Toby loads and loads of vibes that he will be pain free after the surgery. This DOES happen with declaw's and many people don't realize that can happen. :alright: SOOOO glad you have a plan now and Toby will be better soon :nod: :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 

mrsgreenjeens

Every Life Should Have Nine Cats
Staff Member
Advisor
Joined
Aug 13, 2009
Messages
16,470
Purraise
7,269
Location
Arizona
Poor little guy
.  In the meantime, is he on any pain meds or anything? 
that all goes well
 
Top