That flamin cat!!!

Hi all I posted a while back about a nuisance cat around here where we have moved to, it keeps coming in our garden and terrifies our cats even though they only come out when we do and in when we do. It is a male and hasn't been nuetured. I had some good advice and AJ told me to phone RSPCA, I did and they just said they can't do anything as its somebodys cat and that I should approach the owner. Well I would but I have heard she is not a very nice person and would just tell me where to go in not polite terms!
Well tonight things have come to a head, our cats are upstairs and we have had the back door open as its quite warm and hubby just shut it, about 10 minutes later I heard the cats screaming upstairs, hubby ran up and shouted at Harvey he came down and was going mad saying Harvey attacked Floss. I thought this was odd as since we have had him his behaviour now is brilliant and he gets along with our cats really well.So I was really angry with him.
Anyway heard hubby shoo him outside and told him to cool off. 5 minutes later Harvey walked in the lounge I said to hubby did you let Harvey back in then and he suddenly realised, it wasn't Harvey it was that frickin cat that was in the house, he does look alot like Harvey its only close up you can really tell and hubby isn't the best with cats and telling them apart.
I'm fuming, he's really hurt Floss, she's got lots of bald patches where he's ripped her fur out and she is only just getting over him chasing her when we were all out in the garden last week.She's also got a sliht limp which I will keep my eye on. I don't know why but he seems obsessed with her, she is spayed so I'm baffled.
I just don't know what to do, I love all cats and I know that its the owners responsibility and this cat needs to be nuetured, its a complete menace and I am starting to hate it but in another way I feel sorry for it. Please if anyone has any sugestions I would be so grateful. I have sprayed it with water, constantly shoo it away when I see it but it doesn't seem to care. Our cats enjoy the garden and I thought they would be safe with us around but they aren't, I ahve never had a problem like this before.x

If it went inside of my house, I would simply take it to the vet and get it neutered. Too bad for the owners, but this cat is going INSIDE of MY house and hurting MY cats. Here in the States if that was a person we could kill that intruder and call it self defense! Well, in Texas anyways... so... I am sure neutering him is far more humane than killing it

I dunno what to suggest now hun, its not fair that because of the owners irresponsibilty your cats are really starting to suffer! Im shocked at the RSPCA mind if it had of been an aggresive dog that was roaming about it would be a whole different story

hows it getting into your garden? maybe there is something you can put there to stop it getting in

I hope Floss is ok

Originally Posted by -_aj_-

I dunno what to suggest now hun, its not fair that because of the owners irresponsibilty your cats are really starting to suffer! Im shocked at the RSPCA mind if it had of been an aggresive dog that was roaming about it would be a whole different story

hows it getting into your garden? maybe there is something you can put there to stop it getting in

I hope Floss is ok

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Hi, she seems ok, she isn't limping but she was quite wary when she came down for breakfast, she kept looking around. I'm really mad aswell as I had a bag for charity full of clothes in my room and I've just picked it up to put it outside and it was covered in cat pee, it was right up it so the cat has obviously sprayed on it, yuck!!Our garden is all hedges at the minute and there are loads of gaps, we have blocked some up and we plan to fence it all eventually but we cannot afford it at the minute. I will be keeping the kitties in as they aren't safe even with me outside and will have to keep the door shut which is just great if it hots up again.
I would take it to be nuetured but I can't really afford it and hubby would not agree, I won't tell you what he suggested to do to it but I went mad at him.
I have seen it this morning, bold as brass walking round the garden. I think I will call the RSPCA again and maybe try and be a bit firmer with them, I cannot see why they can't go and see the owner and order her to get it nuetured, she can't care about it to just let it wander and its face is covered in scratches from fighting, isn't that neglect?
Floss is usually quite a bold cat too and she doesn't let many things bother her but I have noticed her getting quite nervous and I really don't want that to happen, I ahve a hard enough time as it is with Fudge.x

When your being firm with them explain it has now harmed one of your cats tell them to come look at her especially if she has fur missing, it may carry a bit more punch if they know its attacking other animals i dunno i guess its worth a shot.... maybe some of the neighbours might be able to help putting an anon call into them also. I feel sorry for him its not his fault he has a neglectful owner and he is out at all hours

Originally Posted by -_aj_-

When your being firm with them explain it has now harmed one of your cats tell them to come look at her especially if she has fur missing, it may carry a bit more punch if they know its attacking other animals i dunno i guess its worth a shot.... maybe some of the neighbours might be able to help putting an anon call into them also. I feel sorry for him its not his fault he has a neglectful owner and he is out at all hours

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This is what I said to my hubby when he suggested doing something not very nice to it, it is not the cats fault, when we first got Harvey he was a right menace but the poor lad didn't know when he would get his next meal and if he would have to fight for it, he is like a diffrent cat now, he just wanted some TLC and when he is nuetured I imagine he will be even more layed back (if that's possible ). I shall post when I have phoned them with an update, just got a bit of housework to do.x

RESULT!! I phoned the RSPCA advice line and spoke to a lady, this time I told her about the cat and its bullying and being a nuisance, she asked me if I knew the owner and I said I wasn't sure at all as we had only moved recently, she told me I could download and print a paper collar to put on it so I could write a note on it for the owner to contact me but I told her that you cannot get near the cat as it just runs off and is totally wild, she said it may be a feral but I still have to put up found posters which can also be downloaded off their website. After a week if I get no response then call my local branch and they will arrange to trap it, nueter it and then re-release it here as they are full and cannot take it.
Well, I am bad as I am not going to put up any found posters as I know the owner does not give a toss so I will wait a week and then just ring my local branch and tell them I have done all that, I know that's bad of me but I know the owner will not get it nuetured and she won't listen to me so this seems the only way and if the cat gets nuetured then good and hopefully it will keep away from my garden, its spraying all up my kids garden toys and its disgusting, I am sick of disenfecting everything.x

I think it is great.... but to protect yourself I would just put the posters up, even if you get no results, I would definitely follow this procedure so the owners can not do anything against you. This might come back and bite you on the butt if they complain to the RSPCA saying they never saw a post and get others to say the same.... Just my 2 cents for what is worth...

Originally Posted by Carolina

I think it is great.... but to protect yourself I would just put the posters up, even if you get no results, I would definitely follow this procedure so the owners can not do anything against you. This might come back and bite you on the butt if they complain to the RSPCA saying they never saw a post and get others to say the same.... Just my 2 cents for what is worth...

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Yeah I think you're right Carolina, I never thought of that, I will do that tonight, she probably won't take any notice anyway.I wouldn't want to get into trouble.x

Yeah Ruth cover your back put up some posters

But its great that you got a result with it, hopefully once he has been fixed he might calm down towards the other cats in your neighbourhood!

I just spoke to hubby and he said the same to put some posters up and he said that if the owner does come forward then just tell her what its doing and if she doesn't seem bothered then tell her you have to ring the RSPCA back and then call the RSPCA back and tell them I have spoken to her and take it from there. If she doesn't respond then the original plan will stand, I think they will put a trap in my garden and I will have to call them when successful.
What are the chances of it being the same when it has been nuetured? Thats all that concerns me now. I am really worried aswell of making any enemies around here as we haven't been here that long.x

One step at a time.... You are protecting your cats... Just be calm if this person goes to you, and refer them to the RSPCA. But what you can not have, is it harming your cats.... She would do the same.
If you didn't put the signs up and she found out, then that would be trouble IMO. You are doing the right thing, and also what is best for the cat's health - you are doing them a favor.

Sorry but the cat isn't being a bully..this is what unneutered males do...

The best thing is to get the cat fixed yourself. It's not the cats fault, it's their natural behaviour - believe it or not. I didn't read all through this thread, but perhaps the best option is to keep your own cats indoors.

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

Sorry but the cat isn't being a bully..this is what unneutered males do...

The best thing is to get the cat fixed yourself. It's not the cats fault, it's their natural behaviour - believe it or not. I didn't read all through this thread, but perhaps the best option is to keep your own cats indoors.

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Sam, the latest for this cat was that it sneaked inside of her house and hurt her kitties... Her cats were inside on this case...

Originally Posted by Carolina

Sam, the latest for this cat was that it sneaked inside of her house and hurt her kitties... Her cats were inside on this case...

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Yeah I understand that - but it's still a cat, and it's natural for unneutered males to find other cats to fight with. It's not like it premeditated breaking and entering and causing harm. I just don't like the jokes about harming it or spraying it with water, maybe I'm sensitive but it made me sick.

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

Yeah I understand that - but it's still a cat, and it's natural for unneutered males to find other cats to fight with. It's not like it premeditated breaking and entering and causing harm. I just don't like the jokes about harming it or spraying it with water, maybe I'm sensitive but it made me sick.

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I think her husband joked about that, and she got mad at him... What she wants to do, is exactly to trap and neuter him... She is working on it - finally got the RSPCA to work with her' they weren't before...

Posters are up so lets wait and see, my cats only go outdoors when we are outdoors and they stay in the garden and come in when we do. The RSPCA told me to spray the cat with water to stop it from coming in the garden, I did this a couple of times with a water pistol, they didn't mean drench the poor thing, I would not do that anyway but I was only following advice. And my hubby is not the greatest cat lover in the world and yes he is terribly mad and said some not repeatable things because our bedroom was covered in cat pee which is understandable and I blew my top at him for even saying nasty things, he has calmed down now and agrees with the RSPCA advice.
I am doing this by the book and following the RSPCA advice.x

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

I just don't like the jokes about harming it or spraying it with water, maybe I'm sensitive but it made me sick.

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I'm with Sam on this.

Originally Posted by Ruthyb

I am doing this by the book and following the RSPCA advice.

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Yes, they would tell you to do something like that

If you want your doors open have you thought of screens because we do them here now

Good luck with it hun, chances are your neighbour will see the posters but do nothing about it especially if this cat is living out doors all of the times hopefully this gets sorted quickly.

LIke I said before I would not harm this cat, I actually feel sorry for the poor thing and I have stressed before that its not the cats fault. I would never in a million years be able to catch this cat on my own so I had to resort to help from the RSPCA. Have I in any way shape or form said that I have harmed this cat in any way?? For what it did to my Floss who is now petrified, if it was another child doing this to one of my kids I would have gone straight round to the parent as I would not accept this type of behaviour, unfortunately from hearsay I cannot approach this woman, I have only done what I have been told to do and to be called sick I find this quite offensive.
And we have only been here a couple of months, screens yes I will look into thanks for the info. I cannot control what my hubby says but he was just angry and my gosh did I blow at him! Again I repeat myself, I sprayed the cat with a water pistol as I was told to do this by the RSPCA as the lady the first time I rang up said this would keep it out of my garden, after the second time I gave up as it didn't work and again I repeat, I sprayed it each time once lightly, didn't drench the poor thing.x