Good or bad wedding gift?

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A friend of mine is getting married but I'm unable to attend the wedding.

She and her fiance moved recently out into their own place. I thought hard about a gift and I know they both like cooking, but I didn't want to give them a Cuisinart or blender as I feel that it's very non-distinctive.

I am an amateur blacksmith and gunsmith as I may or may not have mentioned before. The word blacksmith is used today to refer to a craftsman of cutlery. I make knives out of the most premium exotic materials on the planet. I've decided to make them a custom chef's knife and I probably ruined the surprise earlier when I asked her if they had a quality chef's knife yet.

What I'm thinking so far is to make a chef's knife with an 8" blade out of premium imported VG-10 laminated Damascus steel. For those who aren't familiar with what that is (and I wouldn't be if this wasn't a hobby of mine) Damascus steel is a high carbon steel alloy that originated over 1,000 years ago in the Middle-East (most likely in Syria) where it was used to make swords because of its extraordinary strength and ability to retain a sharp edge. It was used for many of the swords in the crusades. VG-10 is a relatively new, Japanese made high-carbon stainless steel used often in very high-end cutlery. VG-10 laminated Damascus steel combines the best of both. You get extreme strength and rigidity, a very sharp edge, and the Damascus steel adds a very unique elegant grain pattern to the steel that you can see here on a knife that coincidentally design-wise is relatively close to what I drew out on paper a few hours ago with the exception of the handle.

(I won't put it in an image tag since I've been told in the past not to unless I own the image)
http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/139/663/029/erUg.jpg

The difference in my design is that the steel will have a bolster forged into it. A bolster is a portion of steel where the blade widens to the thickness of the handle. You can see it on most of the knives in this photo, but the knife closest to the camera has an excellent example. Look at how the blade widens and then stops where the handle material (in that case it appears to be black Micarta) begins.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8140/all1zr.jpg

Also, the handle shape on the knife I mentioned above (the one closest to the camera) is much more similar to the design I'm planning to use.

Lastly, for the handles, I wanted to use an exotic wood that would compliment the beauty of the natural steel grain in the blade.

Currently I'm tinkering with the thought of:

Desert Ironwood http://jantzsupply.com/cartease/images//ew172.jpg

Cocobolo (a form of Rosewood) http://jantzsupply.com/cartease/images//ew108.jpg

Dark Rosewood http://jantzsupply.com/cartease/images//ew100.jpg

Honduras Rosewood http://jantzsupply.com/cartease/images//ew107.jpg
(I wanted Brazilian Rosewood, but it's a protected species these days apparently - this is what it looks like on a knife http://knivesbynick.co.uk/images/hi/...sche_knife.jpg - I'll search to see if anybody maybe has some scraps of it, because that's all I would need, but it's tough stuff to get your hands on)

and Tulipwood http://jantzsupply.com/cartease/images//ew109.jpg - which ordinarily I like, but I think it may be too lite to suit the Damascus steel look.

The steel fasteners that fasten the wood to the tang (portion of the blade that obviously connects to the handles) will be covered with custom inlaid wooden mosaic pins that will be flush with the handle. Also it will feature a full tang, which means that the same metal forging that the blade is a part of will extend the entire length of the knife and will actually be of the same shape as the wooden handles, and be sandwiched in between the wood. You've surely seen this before. Here is an example, which also if you notice has the bolster where the handle and blade meet like what I plan for it to have. http://z.about.com/d/culinaryarts/1/...ulltang400.jpg

After it's all done and polished to a high-gloss, my logo laser-etched on the blade, and triple sharpened by hand with synthetic saphire, the finishing touch will be the gift-box - this one exactly - http://jantzsupply.com/cartease/images//kkw312.jpg which I will have laser engraved with my logo too.

All in all, it's probably going to involve about $200-$400 worth of materials and other expenses, not to mention probably a full week of work, but it should be absolutely gorgeous when finished.

My only question is - is this a stupid gift? My mother told me that giving them a personally custom made knife would make them say "what the hell?" and think that I'm creepy or something. I've never really had to give a wedding gift before, so I suppose she could be right since I have no idea what is considered a good gift. I just thought that it would be the kind of gift that they could use, enjoy the aesthetics of, and perhaps pass on to their children one day. It would be absolutely unique. I see it in some ways as essentially usable art. Then again maybe I am just a creepy guy.


Anyways, your opinion please. I don't want to send the wrong message. I just don't want to give them something that they would want to take back to the store or that would be completely boring. The idea hit me because I remembered one of my older cousins who is an artist gave me a hand carved wooden box for my bar-mitzvah which I still think is beautiful. He took semi-petrified wood and on one side left the natural "break" where the wood had snapped from the tree, but polished it I imagine in a motorized sand tumbler so it because this textured but also somewhat smooth surface. Then he cut the other 5 sides, made a precision fitting lid, and heavily polished it with a little oil so that it has a glass-like gloss to it (the same thing I do with wooden knife handles). It sits in my apt and holds the cufflinks for when I wear french-cuffs with a suit (I'm old fashioned like that, but mainly I just got used to it when I interned in London where french-cuffs are very much in it seemed amongst the barristers).

So I just remembered how much I still to this day, 14 years later appreciate that box whereas I can't really remember what else I was given at my Bar-Mitzvah or who gave me it. It was so unique that it stuck in my mind. I was hoping to basically do something similar, but using my skills.

So, I don't know. Is it weird? Stupid? Lame? Creepy? Seriously.
 

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I personally love the idea. When a gift has thought and effort put into it, it is special to me because the person put something of himself into the gift. Any store bought gift can never have that magic. I got a gaudy little crystal from a family friend for my wedding and because she tried to give me something of herself by making it, it is more special than most of my gifts.
 

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I think it is beautiful. Personally I would love to receive a quality handmade gift.
It is something practical. It would last them a lifetime.
 

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Holy Crap, LG!!!! What a great and cool gift!!! Why would a kitchen knife be a weird gift? Anyone who cooks knows good knives are essential. This one sounds like a work of art that is functional.

On the other hand, how well do you know this person? Is this something she and her intended would cherish or are they purely commercial?

In other words, would you be casting pearls before swine, as the old saying goes?

Another suggestion - something I would love to get is from Penzey's Spices in Wisconsin... the two gift boxes at the bottom of the list..
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...ml?id=L35Hd5xk

I love their products!!


ETA - I have Wusthof and Cutco knives.. . wouldn't buy a knife that didn't have a full bore tang on it.
 

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Is it weird? Stupid? Lame? Creepy?
Not a bit of it!! That would be a positively gorgeous gift and all the more special for your care and effort in the design and crafting of it. I covet it already.
 
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Also, I imagine it goes without saying that it would come with the "Lifetime Friend Warranty" as in, should anything by some strange fluke on this knife breeak, I will fix it to pristine new condition.

I was also going to include in the box, a paper insert that I would print up that would contain a concise yet educational description of the knife's components and design, and whatever historical or scientific significance goes along with it. For example, explaining the history of Damascus steel, and perhaps telling about the species of tree the wood used came from, what region of the world that tree grows in, and any other interesting tidbits. Perhaps I could also weave into the description subtle symbolic inferences pertaining to their marriage that would somehow in a positive and uplifting way relate the properties of the materials used, to the qualities of the two of them (beauty of the wood parelling the beauty of the bride, the strength of the metal paralleling the strength of their love, maybe something about the sharpness of the knife being amongst the sharpest objects on earth, but not sharp enough to split the bride and groom apart, the reliability and longevity of the knife paralleling how they can both rely on each other forever, etc. I don't know - I'm sure plenty of that is corny, I'm just spitballing here off the top of my head.
 

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That is a wonderful fantastic special wedding gift for a couple who enjoys cooking. I would think it is something they would cherish and use with great pleasure.
 

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I like the idea of historical significance, information about the materials, the method of crafting the knife, and that sort of thing, but I wouldn't try to go very far with finding symbolism related to the couple or their marriage. You might get lucky and have it work, but it would be just too easy for that to get hokey if you push it too far. FWIW.
 
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Originally Posted by AddieBee

Holy Crap, LG!!!! What a great and cool gift!!! Why would a kitchen knife be a weird gift? Anyone who cooks knows good knives are essential. This one sounds like a work of art that is functional.

On the other hand, how well do you know this person? Is this something she and her intended would cherish or are they purely commercial?

In other words, would you be casting pearls before swine, as the old saying goes?

Another suggestion - something I would love to get is from Penzey's Spices in Wisconsin... the two gift boxes at the bottom of the list..
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...ml?id=L35Hd5xk

I love their products!!


ETA - I have Wusthof and Cutco knives.. . wouldn't buy a knife that didn't have a full bore tang on it.
I know her very well. I've actually never met her fiance in person (for a while they were in a long distance relationship and I met her after it began), but have spoken to him many times on the phone. I know she would like something hand-crafted. I assume based on him being an architect that he would appreciate the design, form, and execution of it. I guess I can't know for sure. Also, he has to constantly build models of his designs by hand, so I imagine he has a side of him that appreciates art. Again though - just an assumption.

Penzys spices looks pretty neat. They're not terribly far from my apt either it seems. A 6 hour drive. There's another place you might like if you like spices. I forget the name, but the next time I drive by it I'll grab a business card and send you the info. It's a large spice store in uptown Minneapolis, walking distance from my apartment. They have all sorts of exotic spices. I like to go inside just for the smell.
 

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Originally Posted by LawGuy

I know her very well. I've actually never met her fiance in person (for a while they were in a long distance relationship and I met her after it began), but have spoken to him many times on the phone. I know she would like something hand-crafted. I assume based on him being an architect that he would appreciate the design, form, and execution of it. I guess I can't know for sure. Also, he has to constantly build models of his designs by hand, so I imagine he has a side of him that appreciates art. Again though - just an assumption.

Penzys spices looks pretty neat. They're not terribly far from my apt either it seems. A 6 hour drive. There's another place you might like if you like spices. I forget the name, but the next time I drive by it I'll grab a business card and send you the info. It's a large spice store in uptown Minneapolis, walking distance from my apartment. They have all sorts of exotic spices. I like to go inside just for the smell.
Then I would say, go for it. If you can make the knife, do it.

Penzey's has some company stores, too. You can check online. The large spice vendor that was local here, Rafal's... went out of business.
They were in our large downtown farmer's market called Eastern Market.
 
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Wow. What a coincidence. The place in uptown Minneapolis, well I'll put it this way, when I looked at the addresses of Penzey's stores and saw one in Minneapolis, it was on the same street as the store I was thinking of. I popped it into Google Maps and it showed up as being exactly where the store I was thinking of is.

After you click this link, give it a moment to pull up street view. You can see it for yourself. I was astounded.

http://tinyurl.com/penzeysminneapolis

What are the odds?
 
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I was surprised when I learned that the name for somebody who makes knives these days is Blacksmith too. I was so surprised, that I never forgot it.

I almost went with Desert Ironwood. I ended up finding a source for real Brazilian Rosewood though a few minutes ago after searching online for a while, and with that so hard to find these days, I actually just went ahead and ordered a whole bunch of it. It should look nice and now I'll have some for the future too.
 

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Quite frankly, I would love you forever if I received a gift like this! So much thought went into this knife and a lot of time and effort. (But I'm such a kitchen person and foodie.) Truly, I think it's a wonderful idea.

As for Penzey's, well I'm a true Penzey's girl at heart. It the only place I shop for spices. Well, guess I shouldn't really say that. There's a Spice House in Chicago that my GFs and I visited when I was in Chicago a couple of years ago; I bought smoked paprika there and, to this day, it's the best smoked paprika I've ever used.....even better than Penzey's. They had a tomato powder that was great, too.

I love walking into spice stores, strictly because of the aroma. It's exotic and everything smells so good.

As for the knife, I think it's a great idea.
 

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One of the most cherished wedding gifts my husband and I received is a hand-knitted blanket from his great-aunt. It was the last blanket she knitted before she passed away. We can't use it (kitty claws and all), but I want to put it in some sort of display and hang it in the house.

I believe that anyone who has a good heart would appreciate a gift such as you're planning.


Heck, a good friend of mine got married and I gifted her their wedding cake! I drove it 9 hours to get to her too! (See picture here: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...Cakes/cake.jpg).
 

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Originally Posted by LawGuy

Also, I imagine it goes without saying that it would come with the "Lifetime Friend Warranty" as in, should anything by some strange fluke on this knife breeak, I will fix it to pristine new condition.

I was also going to include in the box, a paper insert that I would print up that would contain a concise yet educational description of the knife's components and design, and whatever historical or scientific significance goes along with it. For example, explaining the history of Damascus steel, and perhaps telling about the species of tree the wood used came from, what region of the world that tree grows in, and any other interesting tidbits. Perhaps I could also weave into the description subtle symbolic inferences pertaining to their marriage that would somehow in a positive and uplifting way relate the properties of the materials used, to the qualities of the two of them (beauty of the wood parelling the beauty of the bride, the strength of the metal paralleling the strength of their love, maybe something about the sharpness of the knife being amongst the sharpest objects on earth, but not sharp enough to split the bride and groom apart, the reliability and longevity of the knife paralleling how they can both rely on each other forever, etc. I don't know - I'm sure plenty of that is corny, I'm just spitballing here off the top of my head.
I love this idea! Also FWIW I like the desert ironwood best.
 

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Wow! I think this is a fabulous gift. I wish I had friends like you! It seems like a tremendous amount of money to spend on a wedding gift (to me), but if she is a very good friend, and you can afford it, why not?

I want one too, but cannot justify spending that amount on one knife, even though I love to cook and DO use my Chef's knife every day of the week. I even have several friends who are professional chefs. Boy, I bet they would love one of these. (Maybe you should think about starting up a new enterprise!!)
 

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I LOVE the idea! As far as woods go I love the dark rosewood! I think it's a beautiful idea and love how it's very personal, deff not something they can just go buy at a store
 

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I think its a great gift.

For my husbands godson's wedding a few years ago he made them a mission style queen bed out of oak. They had admired the our bed which he made out of cherry. They day after the wedding when they opened the gifts we set the bedframe up in the garage so they could see it and pick out the color to stain it. Everyone was duly impressed!

I wouldn't worry about the cost as its a labor of love and I'm sure they will treasure it.
 
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