Allentown, PA. Stud cat needed.

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We have a Female, Long haired, Grey, Non-breed, 9-month-old named Lady Mae who we need to have a litter with before we get her fixed. We don't have enough money for stud fees and we don't care about the breed. So if you have an unfixed male, breed non-specific, (preferably orange!) please help us out! We want to have our little girl for a long time, so to ensure a long, healthy, kitty life we need to get some kittens out of her.

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Originally Posted by ericagal178

We have a Female, Long haired, Grey, Non-breed, 9-month-old named Lady Mae who we need to have a litter with before we get her fixed. We don't have enough money for stud fees and we don't care about the breed. So if you have an unfixed male, breed non-specific, (preferably orange!) please help us out! We want to have our little girl for a long time, so to ensure a long, healthy, kitty life we need to get some kittens out of her.

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Oh My!
I am not sure about the misconception that you have that if she breeds she will live longer? Is that it? This is so wrong, in so many levels, I would be interested in hearing who gave you this information?
You don't have money for a stud, but what if she has an emergency, and needs a c-cession? What happens then? Do you have enough money to vet, vaccinate, spay and neuter all the kittens?
I am sure you are aware that around 6 million cats per year are euthanized in the US alone because of thinking like this? Because of overpopulation?
There is absolutely nothing good that can come out of her giving birth...
You will be putting her through a lot of pain, health risks, and will be taking kittens lives that could be adopted from the shelter, by adding to the overpopulation issue...
Please please please please... The best thing you will do to your girl, for her to live a happy and healthy life, is to spay her...
 

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Welcome to TCS!


There is no reason to breed her to ensure a long/healthy life. That is an (unfortunately) common misconception - I've even had vets tell me that!
If you have any questions on why there is no reason to breed your cat, we are here to help and can offer articles & threads to help you make an informed decision.

Just a reminder of the TCS rules:

2. Please make sure to spay and neuter your cats. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please educate yourself to the importance of spaying and neutering by the time your cat is 4-6 months old. If you take care of a feral colony, please make sure to do so responsibly by practicing TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) protocols within the colony. By spaying and neutering, you enhance a cat's quality of life and improve their longterm health. You are also proving your love for cats because in acting as a responsible pet owner/caregiver you are minimizing the problem of cat overpopulation.
 

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Originally Posted by white cat lover

Welcome to TCS!


There is no reason to breed her to ensure a long/healthy life. That is an (unfortunately) common misconception - I've even had vets tell me that!
If you have any questions on why there is no reason to breed your cat, we are here to help and can offer articles & threads to help you make an informed decision.

Just a reminder of the TCS rules:
You got to be kidding me Nat... VETS give out this information??? Oh my goodness gracious!
 

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The rules saying professional breeder should really mention registered pedigree cats since anyone with any cat could say they are prof breeders. I don't know anyone who would refer to themselves as a professional breeder apart from byb mills.

As already said there is no reason to breed your moggie, do you know her genetic history? And what tests has she had or do you plan for the "stud"?

You'd be best to get her spayed. Also 9 months is generally considered too young.
 

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Originally Posted by missymotus

You'd be best to get her spayed. Also 9 months is generally considered too young.
Just wanted to point this out in case there is any confusion on the above statement, I had to do a double take when I read it.... 9 months is too young for a female cat to get pregnant and have kittens. She is well old enough to be spayed at 9 months though.

Edit: She can still get pregnant at 9 months old.
 

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It would be great to get things clear. It seems that you believe if your cat has a litter of kittens before she is fixed, she will live a longer, healthier life. First of all. let me say how wonderful it is that you are thinking long term and that you want to do everything you can to help your cat be healthy and happy. She sounds very beautiful and I am sure you love her very much. That is all good.

There did used to be a belief that it was good to let a female cat have one litter - I did it myself once, many years ago. But this is not now considered necessary or even desirable. In fact, quite the opposite. Even one pregnancy can put a cat at risk, especially a young cat like yours. Breeding her, particularly to an unknown male, can expose her to all kinds of disease, and the birth can lead to many complications. Many people here have lost their cats and kittens to problems of pregnancy and birth. If a cat is not bred and allowed to remain intact through a number of oestrus cycles, she runs a much greater risk of cancer and pyometra later in life.

There have also been great developments in veterinary technology over the last thirty years or so. It is now safe to do spays on much younger animals, though many vets still prefer to wait till 6 months of age, or the first oestrus.

The other reason to spay your cat is of course the undesirability of bringing even more kittens into a world of overcrowded cats. We here love cats and love kittens, but all of us deplore the number that are unwanted, unhomed and doomed to die just because they were born. Even if you as loving owners can find homes for your kittens, you are thereby denying the chance of a loving family to some kitten somewhere who may be euthanised just because it is there. Thousands of kittens die every day in shelters.

So what I am saying is, the best chance of a long, happy life for your cat is to spay her as soon as possible. She will reward you by being a loved and loving companion for years to come. Please talk to your vet about all this and I am sure you receive the same advice. And do stay members of TCS. We all came here through our love of cats, many of us, including me, because of problems we were having, and stayed to find a warm supportive community. Good luck with your cat, and do post a photo of her soon. I want to see her beautiful long hair.
 

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Originally Posted by fisheater

Just wanted to point this out in case there is any confusion on the above statement, I had to do a double take when I read it.... 9 months is too young for a female cat to get pregnant and have kittens. She is well old enough to be spayed at 9 months though.
and just to clarify this statement because it sounds like she can't get pregnant at 9 months:

9 months is old enough for them to get pregnant, in the same way a 13 year old child could get pregnant - it is still advisable for a breeder to wait until they are full grown before breeding them.

Regardless, she doesn't need to have a litter, you don't want to have to deal with potential medical issues and the expense of vaccinating kittens not to mention adding to the cat population when there are so many cats and kittens out there needing homes already
 

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I agree this does not belong in the Breeders Corner.
Where do you get your info from?
You ever watch kittens be born and try to save them but could not.
I have.

 

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This is more a health issue than a breeders issue, so I have moved the thread. Please, friends, be gentle with the poster, who seems to have nothing but the best interests of her kitty at heart, even if she is misinformed where the matter of having a litter before spaying is concerned.

To the OP, you won't find any support here for breeding a moggie, for all of the reasons already given. Please reconsider that and have your girl spayed as soon as possible -- and forgive us if we come on a little strong, where kitten overpopulation comes into the picture. We try not to bite, but overpopulation is kind of a hot button issue, so we can get carried away.

I hope you'll find lots of useful information here, introduce us to your girl, and stick around to find some friends.
 

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Spay her. For all the reasons already mentioned, and your own sanity's sake. Let her never worry about breeding or kittens, and remain an unencumbered kitten herself.
If you want more cats, look into adopting another one after she is spay. There's lots of orange kitties that need homes and shelters are always overrun.
 
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I didn't ask you guys to lecture me on getting my cat spayed. We have the money for any health risks and taking care of the kittens. I've raised cats my entire life.

And biologically, it is healthier for female mammals (humans included, for you dears who don't leave the house) to give birth in their lives. It doesn't necessarily give cats longer lives, but it does ensure certain disorders not to set in.

I didn't ASK you all for a lecture. I didn't read most of those. I don't care what you have to say about that matter. All I did, was ask for someone with a stud cat to help us out.

Good luck playing high and mighty in your lives. I'll go to another website if nobody is just willing to help me.
 

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Any and all health risks? Would you like to talk to WellingtonCats about how she recently lost one her cats after her first litter?

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=211820

You're not going to find support elsewhere. Most of us with cats take in the unwanted and/or sick, several others work at shelters. We all see what overpopulation has caused.
 

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Actually, spaying before the first heat cycle in cats greatly reduces the risk of uterine, ovarian and mammary cancers, and obviously pyometra as well as potential STDs (yes cats can get STDs) from an untested stud cat
 

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Originally Posted by ericagal178

And biologically, it is healthier for female mammals (humans included, for you dears who don't leave the house) to give birth in their lives. It doesn't necessarily give cats longer lives, but it does ensure certain disorders not to set in.
Really? Please feel free to let us know how a cat will be healthier by giving birth... Enlighten us... I am sure some of us would love to hear... I would, because for me that doesn't make much sense...
 

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Originally Posted by ericagal178

We have the money for any health risks and taking care of the kittens.
From your first post:
We don't have enough money for stud fees
That is a contradiction...

A medical emergency, for instance an emergency c-cession can cost a lot of money, let alone the life of your kitten (yes, she is still a kitten).

Plus vetting all the kittens is NOT cheap......
 

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Originally Posted by ericagal178

(humans included, for you dears who don't leave the house)
Nobody is insulting you here, and there is no need for this attitude.
 

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Plus vetting all the kittens is NOT cheap......
About $300 per kitten after all is said and done. And that's with a cheaper vet.


Maybe, this thread would be better off locked?
I can only forsee more insults and people repeating the same thing over and over again. If the OP hasn't reconsidered yet, they probably won't after several more pages and possibly more hurt feelings.
 
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